Thy body chemistry theory of premature ejaculation

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

I believe it was an interview with Dave Asprey, or maybe it was Tim Ferriss, but they were talking about an issue they had where they thought they just had to push themselves harder but in reality they had a physical factor silently getting in their way. The idea being that no matter how hard you try, some things just have to be taken out of the equation first unless you want to work uphill the whole time.

Theories of premature ejaculation include:
- psychological
- body chemistry, hormones, etc
- physiological, nerves, structure

I'm currently looking into body chemistry, so if anyone wants to share any links on that topic feel free. Here's the first one I came upon, which talks about a relationship with thyroid hormone.

The thyroid hormone that stops premature ejaculation | Daily Mail Online

Personally, I do expect diligent effort can be successful even if going uphill, but I do notice that some of my biggest bursts of improvement seem to come with changes in either: diet, exercise, etc. In other words, yes, I see benefits from manual and other prejac exercises, but I tend to notice these wildly noticeable, unexpected, and often substantial improvements that seem based in some other factor besides my routines. It just makes me think it will be worth it to look more into the picture. Perhaps one day I'll get a hormone panel done. From thyroid, to testosterone, to prolactin, so many things seem to get brought up in relationship with premature ejaculation. Then of course, throw in neurotransmitters and things like histamine, etc. Right now I'm a bit focused towards hormones, but the whole body chemistry thing is a topic on my mind right now.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Hmm ok but try not to do the headless chicken thing . Really most guys just need more focus on their exercises.

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

I have no clue what headless chicken thing you're referring to -- besides, I'm devout vegan And yes, I give full faith to the power of the exercises.

[pump4girth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pump4girth]

If I may I think Pegasus means because the study was done in Turkey hence the chicken reference...touche... but I think it is true that chemistry pIays a big part in premature ejaculation, doctors should study more and know more as far as curing it naturally. Great post-rep for you

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

Article doesn't give much to go off, probably better to look at the meds prescribed and see what properties they have.

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

I kinda literally just posted the first link I encountered, mainly because it mentioned a hormone I'd personally never heard related to prejac at all. I kinda expect to find limited or incoherent info. If the answers were clear you'd hear them from sea to shining sea. But I'd still be curious to glean the relationships we know of.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

To" run around like a headless chicken" is to lack focus. A common saying in Australia.

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

Lol, gotcha you, a common idea around here in the US too. To me, if reading gets in the way of my goals, my goals had bigger problems than my reading :-p

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Lol, gotcha you, a common idea around here in the US too. To me, if reading gets in the way of my goals, my goals had bigger problems than my reading :-p

The goal is not usually the problem nor the reading . The issue can be a lack of focus and/or seeking an easy way a pill or the like . Then again others seek complexity for it's own sake.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

My two cents time.

Body and neuro - chemistry does play a part. But it's one part of many. Much of the neurotransmitter impact, even the general physiological influence is effectively related to psychology. Serotonin is pretty well known now to influence it - more serotonin, less prem. Which is why SSRI antidepressants "fix" it.

BUT, it's not the cause, and to reinforce what Peg said, one pill will not cure you, you still need to learn control for yourself, maybe by exercise if your muscles are weak and you maybe never even knew about them, and certainly through self awareness.

What a pill will do is give you a temporary free pass into the comfort zone where you don't have a hair trigger, and it's in that place where you have the room to learn control. It won't always work, so please don't rely on it, pills or drugs are expensive and loaded with side effects.

Learning control itself takes time and practice, though you may find, as I did, that one day it all just clicks and fits together. And I'm still not 100%, sometimes I still can't hold it, but also sometimes I can't finish either, my point is that neither of those things feel like a problem as such because they're not always the case and I'm more aware than I've ever been of my body, my arousal, and all the subtle triggers.

I'm not going to recommend drugs to anyone, but however you get there, you need to be in a space, let's say 7/10 where you're not going to just cum in a heartbeat and get used to it because staying there and paying attention you'll learn way more about your own body and arousal than you ever realised. In that space, creep up, get comfortable at an 8, then eventually a 9. This won't happen overnight, all the pills can do is give you breathing space, and if you don't use that breathing space to practice, exercise and learn, you'll never gain control.

Sure, you might get lucky and have your physiology flip the other way, but even then you won't have learned anything, and who's to know when it'll all flip back again.

Plus, when you do gain & learn control, the chances are really high that you'll now be able to last far longer than average "never been prem" ten minute guys too, so consider this journey a blessing in disguise. There are no quick fixes. And that's good. Because pills, while they may provide some relief, teach you nothing.