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Hello, not sure if this is the best place to post this so move if necessary. Long time lurker/first time poster here, I've been doing kegels off and on for about 2 years now, no serious workouts with months of rest in between, but have been edging consistently for atleast the same time if not an extra year or so. My interest in kegels has always been the notion to orgasm without ejaculation, but in the process I feel something went wrong. I find now that I have to put effort into not ruining my orgasm, in which orgasm doesn't just come naturally anymore and I can easily 'kill' the orgasm itself, which is both not pleasurable and frustrating. When I reach the PONR I can tighten a kegel and hold it (albeit not strong enough to completely hold back a powerful ejaculation) but in holding the kegel, I kind of kill the sensation of orgasm and most of ejaculation itself, which leaves me unsatisfied and frustrated. Only a tiny bit of semen/sperm? comes out and after relaxing the kegel very weak muscle spams occur in an pathetic excuse of an orgasm. Not sure if I've explained it correctly, and if you need any further information just ask, but this is very frustrating and I feel like I have to retrain my body to orgasm naturally again. Am I doing something wrong and/or should I stop kegels? Any help would be appreciated! -Thanks for reading Edit: Tried to indent paragraphs but it won't let me, sorry for the huge block o' text.
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Last edited by Ophiuchus; 07-15-2015, 06:05 PM. -
Welcome to the gym Ophiuchus!
Might be a good idea to have a break from them if you are experiencing negative effects. It is easy to overdo it with kegels, they should be built up very gradually, same as you would train any skeletal muscle, you need recovery time for it to heal and grow stronger.
When you resume kegels, mix in some reverse kegels to stretch your pelvic floor, balance is what we are after.
Maybe give yourself a little while to recover and try not to masturbate/edge. You may want to start a log.
Good luck, stay safe!"Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu -
We teach mmo here when you are ready. You seem to have both strength and skill issues and just as it is possible to stop ejaculation and have the orgasm it is possible to ejaculate without orgasm.Comment
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Ah so it's possible to actually stop orgasm as well? That's what I wasn't sure of and what kinda worried me lol. Thanks I'll try to take some time off (which is what I've done in the past) to let things 'reset'. As for stopping ejaculation and not orgasm, do I just have the timing wrong if I'm stopping orgasm and partial ejaculation? The thing that sucks is when I first started this about 2 years ago, I successfully stopped ejaculation and had a full body orgasm which was pretty amazing, this was after a month of training everyday so I know it's possible. I just haven't been able to recreate the event again! Thanks for replying and giving me some peace of mind!Comment
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Like I said I suspect both strength and skill . The experiences of the guys in the mmo club might be of value to you.Comment
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If your kegels are weaker, it stands to reason that your Involuntary Kegels won't be as powerful when you orgasm/ejaculate.Originally posted by Ophiuchus View Post
Learn to make use of your breathing to help you, also learn to relax your pelvic floor as you near PONR."Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao TzuComment
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My male body also makes the same experience of unsatisfied and frustrating edging with partial ejaculation. It is a tough procedure to practice this over many hours or days with many partial ejaculations ! With each ejaculation the sperm becomes more and more watery and the glands and ducts of the male body get aching empty .Originally posted by Ophiuchus View PostComment
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So learn dry orgasm.Comment
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The male body is totally addicted to practice it this way. Edging with partial ejaculations is a very demanding practice.Originally posted by Pegasus View PostComment
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Meh.
So far as I can tell it has no advantage relative to dry orgasm and many disadvantages, the biggest being limited number of orgasms.Comment
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Pegasus, I totally agree , but my male body is addicted to edging with partial ejaculations . The male body is fighting when it gets out of fluids and producing watery sperm. This is an amazing effect .Originally posted by Pegasus View PostComment
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May be it is not "blue balls" , but often "blue prostate" . "blue balls" are often descrpted , but I cannot say this aching comes direct from my balls . It is in between the glans and prostate .Originally posted by Addicted1 View PostComment
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Well I can do partial ejaculation but don't see the attraction myself.Originally posted by Addicted1 View PostComment
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reading this post makes my male body addicted to also kill the orgasm and leave the complete naked masculine body unsatisfied and frustrated after every ejaculation without relief and leaking of sperm . the most difficult aspect of edging is avoiding ejaculation with relief at PONR 9,9. this is very frustrating for the male body ,even practiced in a cold outdoor enviroment at night.Originally posted by Ophiuchus View PostComment
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