Solved routine cure my premature ejaculation - Feedback needed - Will post progress.

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

Sorry for the late answer again, my mobile phone forces me to log in very often, which is very annoying.

Ralph - I do not sit that long, just 2 minutes. However I have made it a routine that I do everytime that I am at the toilet at work. Also I do it in the mornings and before bed. I try to do it before sex to.

Rapid - The main resource for my success must be the deathgrip and by that getting used to the tingling sensation when you can feel that you are on your way to orgasm, but sets the tempo down and keep it their a bit from the edge, but still such that you can feel it real nice. I do this for an hour at least.

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Re-motivating my self

As mentioned, I have seen a lot of progress while having sex with my girlfriend. I can thrust quite good in missionary and especially when I fuck kneeling in missionary with her legs up in the air.

However, I am still struggling with the doggy, especially when I fasten the thrusting. My initial goal was 3 minutes of hard and fast thrusting in doggy, and I will still like to achieve that goal, even though I have been a bit lazy after my progress.

Now I will start up again to achieve full control.


Last two days log

I have decided to try using the fleshlight a bit more, hence the last two days I have been 'cold-starting' with the fleshlight, i.e. I did not do deathgrip first. I feel better control when I thrust, but lying on my back is hardest. Hence I aim to perform an hour of fleshlight lying on my back.

The last two days I set time for an hour, and wanted to do hard fleshlight edging for that time. However both days I finished with ejaculation after 30 minutes. At first I was a bit disapointed, however now that I think about it, this was the same that happened to me when I first started out with the deathgrip, so I guess I should just continue practicing. Also I do it quite fast sometimes, and it is often after this that I cannot get my arousal down again, but again. I just need more practice.


Bad idea?

I have begin to think, if it would be a good idea to play some audio porno to stimulate more in order to get used to that also?, however I think I would wait until I can handle fleshlight hard and fast (with small breaks) for an hour, like I can with deathgrip. Just wanted to hear you guys opinion about audio porn. I do not think that I would ever return to video porn anymore, I like it more without actually. It is much better than having to edge in a certain position just to be able to see the screen.

But have you any experiences with audio porn?

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

I think you should be the source of the audio.If you are alone in your house, start talking, start visualizing how you pound your girl hard in doggy, start talking dirty things, and don`t hold yourself, be free.I believe this is more beneficial than porn..

[rapid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rapid]

any new updates about your progress?

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

My current status is that I am not edging that much, due to the fact that my girlfriend is a lot home lately, since she is writing her master degree and also I am a little bit busy helping her. But that will change in the end of this month.

Anyway we have great sex and I have moved the practice into bed instead, however not in the sense that the sex becomes mechanic in anyway. I just ensures on keeping my mind in focus.

My total progress so far is:

Missionary: Now I can do this hard and fast for like 2 minutes, however when I feel I am at distance to ejaculate, I just slow down a bit without holding breaks and can then hold it here until I feel control to fasten it again. It gives a great dynamic during sex. Also I feel that I slowly increase the time I am able to go hard and fast. Now I feel it is more about my mind telling me to blow when I go fast than the actual sensation in my penis, hence I am began to really moan, since I feel it sort of releases the energi that I build up. When I say 'Ohhh... you are so hot..' in a controllable way I feel that I mentally release the dirty thoughts in my mind.

Kneeling missionary <pornographic link removed by mod>:
Same as normal missionary, however a bit better control here. Also this was the one that I learned most of the control in, since in this position you are able to rub the clitoris while taking small breaks and still have the penis inside her. Mostly she does not even notice that I am resting in this position, since it is just normal dynamics of sex to change the rhythm sometimes. So I can really recommend this to begin with, also the fact that you get away from her kisses and curious hands can help much in the beginning.

Woman on top:
I always felt that this position was hard to control, especially when my girlfriend moved up and down for my pleasure, and it often ended out with her on top, but more leaned back such that I can rub her clitoris while she was just sitting still or maybe moved a bit back and forth, but not up and down on my penis.
Now I have really good control in this position, when she just sits still and get her clitoris rubbed (which she still loves), then I have complete control, I do not feel the need to cum at all. Often I pull her down to me, take her ass and then just fucks her quite hard for a minute or so, then I again slows down, still thrusting though but slowly such that I really feel the sensation of her, while we kisses intensely and both are moaning. (Again moaning controllable really releases much pressure and clears the mind, for me at least).

Doggy style:
I have always had a hard time in this position, it is indeed the most arousing position for me. Lately I have begin thinking of that this has always been the 'finish off' position for me, such than when my girlfriend has had her orgasm I took her from behind afterwards. It took about 20 seconds in a hard and furious pace with no control at all, so I wouldn't be able to slow down afterwards.

When I now finish in this position I have a bit better control, but I am still not were I wanna be. I can maybe go hard for 20-30 seconds, but with the control such that I can slow down (I mean really really slow down here, not the same control as in missionary yet). I came to the conclusion that I really have to rewire my brain not to finish off in this position.

Working on better control in doggy style:
So what I am currently working on is the ability to control doggy style much better. As mentioned above I have been used to the doggy style position as the last position in sex and most often getting off in this position after my girlfriend was satisfied. This has made me think I should get off as fast as possible. I now work on rewire my brain by prefer doggy style earlier in the act. I notice that I have better control knowing that I need to take myself together since my girlfriend hasn't had orgasm yet, but unfortunately not so much that if I wanted I could fuck her hard in doggy.

However getting more used to doggy as pleasure and not just as a finish off quickly position is my focus at the moment. I am even considering to forbid my self to get off in doggy style position until I have better control.

Conclusion
I now feel that I have good control in most positions, however not for 3 minutes hard and fast yet, but anyway it works fine by just slowing down a bit, or stopping a bit and kiss instead. I really work on the doggy style and find it a bit hard, but I do see very slow progress. I hope my newest idea by starting in doggy instead of finishing in it might help me.

If you have any ideas to control doggy style better, then please let me know.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

I notice that different positions give me different sensation over my penis.And by sensation I don`t mean pleasure, but pressure of the dick during the thrust.You know, vaginas are not straight, they have shapes too, so it makes sense that the pressure over your dick will be different.Now, I dont know how to emaluate that kind of pressure when you practice solo, but this is something to consider.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Oh, and also great progress, two minutes non-stop thrusting in missonary is great achievement.Now you have gained a big momentum, things will get only better, you shouldnt stop or slow down ever!

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

Great advice!

Yesterday I tried really notice what was different in doggy..

One thing that is weird is that it feels like the friction is less than in missionary, hence one should think that I should be able to last longer, however that is not the case. It is a more tingling feeling.

I also noted that the doggy style memes really is on to something.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLyqoIdWcAAgbPr.jpg
In image number 1 I can hold a bit longer, but in image number 3 I feel like a bump pressing against my frenulum and entire undersite of my penis, which makes me lose control. ( My girlfriend 'luckily' can't do image number 4 )..

So now I need to find a way to simulate that solo, I am thinking of putting something into the STU case to give pressure the same place..

Thanks!

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

My girl do a lot 3 and 4(especially 4!) and when I sit over her, its easier.The hardest position for me is when I am on my knees in the bed and she is on doggy, but she kinda sit on me and her torso is more upward, like 45 degrees angle.This is the most arousal position for me ever.Something with the friction of the dick.

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

Today I tried experiment with different ways that should simulate the feeling I have when taking my girlfriend in doggy. It didn't quite find the way that stimulates the same way, so I kinda gave up on getting that feeling for today.

I edged standing today, since I used the Fleshlight Shower Mount at the bathroom, however as mentioned I never got the same feeling as in doggy. I could thrust in the fleshligt hard and fast for ever, so instead I decided to try out the idea about sound porn where you could hear the pounding and the moaning in.

Unfortunately it was really hard to find such great sounds, so I ended up going to a pornsite and search for 'hardcode doggy pounding' OMG how embarrassing I havn't watched porn for a very long time and today I fall in. However I did not feel addicted and actually never felt I have had any addiction to porn, so I just gave it a go.

At first I just listened to the sound. (At first it felt a bit over the top, it was too unnatural with the sound that woman screemed, I think I might find something more natural next time). It ended with me looking at the video sometimes and when I got too aroused I closed my eyes and then controlled my arousal, however I could watch quite a bit without getting that aroused actually, but it certainly helped.

I ended up edging using the fleshlight and sometimes deathgrip for an hour, before I stopped. I really sensed that my penis was very hard much of the time, as if it was in real sex, so maybe it is good practice to use porn in a controlled way. I focus on not just loosing my mind into the screen, but instead use the porn as arousal and then still feel what is going on in my body.

I ended up blowing my load at the end, which I normally avoid to do, so now I am thinking if I should continue using porn, or if I should stop and stay with what I have been doing so far?

- Let me know what you think.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Maybe its very hard to emaluate vaginas shape, because its unique and constant, while you cant hold the same ''shape'' with your hand...as far as porn I suggest to not use it.I know what is the feeling to think porn its not good for you, after absistence of it, but trust me, after couple porn sessions you will start notice again negative effects.

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

Hi, feels great to finally be back.

It has been a very hard month with a lot of work, house work and helping my girlfriend with her final candidate assignment.

However I have still been holding my routine, I just havn’t had the time to write about it.

My current routine:
No porn.
Edging for 60 minutes.
Dry DeathGrip with fast stroking and a lot of head stimulation to.
I try to relax, but when it feels too good I avoid stopping at all cost. I do light reverse kegel and I do another kind of stimulation, maybe on the shaft only or very slow.
Also I do hindi squat when I brush my teeth, every morning and before bed. And then I do it everytime I have been at the toilet.


My current progress:
The first 3-5 minutes after penetration I take it slow, I feel it more sensitive, but I kisses my woman a lot, and its great because she needs a little warm up too.
Then after that I can fuck in a great rythm in missionary and when we shift position to her on top, I can go forever. She rides me back and forth, but also up and down I can control. (I do need to do a little counter thrusting when she moves up and down, then I feel in better control). Sometimes I even grab her ass and just pound for a minute or so, until she wants me to slow down a bit.
In doggy I am still struggling a bit to last long, I am becoming much better when she hasn’t orgasmed yet, like I mentally know that I must not cum, hence I take it slower. But when it is my turn to finish, I often rush it too much. But even though the time increases slowly while I take her in doggy trying to get off.


My average sex time is now 30 minutes with my penis inside of her all the time, The rythm of thrusting goes up and down in speed, however I would like to be better to thrust hard and fast for longer time.


What I should work on:
Since I am still struggling a bit in doggy, I need to get out of my head that I used to always get off in that position, however it does take longer and longer for me to get off in that, and I am not in a panicked state anymore. Now I really see how she moans with her face in the pillow while I am pounding away. Very nice. The last couple of times I maybe rushed it a bit because she already had orgasmed, but next time I will slow down before PONR and the try to train a bit and extend the time.

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Still working on the doggy
I have noticed for a long time now, that edging doesn't really seems to give me the same excitement than I have during real sex. It is really nice to edge for an hour, but it just isn't the same as real sex.

I notice that I get more tense while having sex, and even though I en missionary now can fuck continuously in a pretty nice speed, I just can't do it that controlled in doggy. In doggy it is maybe a minute, and then I need to slow down.


So what to do then?
I notice that while eding I no longer IKs, however with porn I do. I do not want to watch porn, but I need a way to trigger those IKs such that I can practice.

I have therefore downloaded some amateur doggy style movies and stripped the audio, such that I can play it as audio alone. When I hear a girl moaning or the "swap, swap, swap" sound on hard thrusting, then I notice that I begin to get more tense, it is not an actual fast IK, but more a slow one sneaking in on me.

Having this kind of stimulation now, I will see if I can beat the IKs in doggy.


Thrusting technique
I have also been reading a bit about thrusting techniques. I have tried a little before and find it hard to hold an RK while thrusting either in or out, but recently I read something something about 'just relaxing' for a nano-second. I think this will work in my case, since it might avoid the IK sneaking in on me.

So I will start slow by thrusting in, when I am in I will perform a little fast RK, when I have pulled out again I will do another little fast RK. I will do this until I get a nice rythm, then see if I can make it a natural reflex.


Current status
I do see progress, but I wish it could thrust faster for longer time in the near future.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Umm Jan many would consider you at sex god stage now . Not many women want to go more than 30 min btw.

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

Hey Jan, what do you think has been the most important step in helping you last longer? You say you can go fast for as long as you want in missionary! thats awesome dude! Is that with a real women or?