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I have taken a hiatus from I'm the forums due to lack of gains and frustration. Mostly done researching. I started scrotum stretching which I find perfect combo with PE. My testicles are hang in alot lower. As far as gains I made quarter inch months ago from my ADS. I find it did too much skin stretching. I got a Bathmate finally and praying it won't disappoint. I had couple test runs like all pe devices takes time to learn how to use it efficiently. I got a good pump about another quarter inch temporary gains. I'll keep you guys updated. Soon will be purchasing a Phallosan Forte and LG Hanger to finish my PE device collection