Hard flaccid busting log

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I've known about PE for 8 years, but unfortunately have always been plagued on and off by hard flaccid resulting in zero (repeat, ZERO) girth gains. This is my attempt to document exactly what specific exercises are causing this ridiculous condition.

19/12/2016 - 10 dry jelqs, low to med intensity (5 each hand). Neutral PI's
20/12/2016 - 12 dry jelqs, low to med intensity (6 each hand). Neutral PI's
21/12/2016 - 14 dry jelqs, low to med intensity (7 each hand). Neutral PI's
22/12/2016 - Rest
23/12/2016 - Rest
24/12/2016 - 16 dry jelqs, low to med intensity (8 each hand). Immediate turtling/hard-flaccid. No morning wood etc.

Took a few days off until morning wood returned.

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28/12/2016 - Air pump for 5 mins at 2-3 hg. Immediate turtling/hard-flaccid. No morning wood etc.

Taking a few days off again until morning wood returns. I am going to try pinch jelqs next to see if i can isolate whether this is a cc or cs issue. Hopefully not both. I'm sick of being thin.

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1/1/17 - 16 dry pinch jelqs along the CC, low to med intensity (8 each hand). Woke up with hard flaccid the following morning

[Drjohn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Drjohn]

This condition is due to a tight bc muscle in your pelvic floor.

To get rid of it, do reverse kegels and hindi squats

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I have had this condition since 2008. I do reverse kegels, stretches, massage and squats consistently. I can get rid of hard flaccid pretty easily. It's just trying to work out how to stop it from coming back every time I try to PE.

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With that said. A positive update...

4/1/17 - 10, 5 sec squeezes 90% erection - Neutral PI
5/1/17 - Rest
6/1/17 - 15, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection - Nuetral PI
7/1/17 - Rest
8/1/17 - 20, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection - slight turtling but went away after an hour or so.

Squeezes seem to work ok for now...

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Have you worked on the head side of hf?

Another issue that come up in stubbourn cases are lower back /pelvic issues.

[Drjohn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Drjohn]

You are stressing your bc muscle so it will still come back all the time

[fendool Member Find all posts View Profile Close fendool]

Have you worked on the head side of hf?

Another issue that come up in stubbourn cases are lower back /pelvic issues.

Not sure what you mean by head side? Over the past 8 years, stress has come and gone which is pretty normal I think.

What do you propose for lower back pelvic? I have no pain in these areas.

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You are stressing your bc muscle so it will still come back all the time

This is what this log is essentially testing. I disagree that it will come back all the time, I think that some exercises are worse than others. So far 3 sessions of squeezes have caused no issues. Compare that to 5 mins of pumping which caused full blown HF...It doesn't make sense. Squeezes place way more pressure on the BC.

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10/1/17 - 21, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection
12/1/17 - 21, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection
14/1/17 - 21, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection
16/1/17 - 21, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection

Sessions seemed ok,but I think I've lost some erection quality. Damn it!

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Keep at it. You will figure it out. Good luck.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

I have had this condition since 2008. I do reverse kegels, stretches, massage and squats consistently. I can get rid of hard flaccid pretty easily. It's just trying to work out how to stop it from coming back every time I try to PE.

Have you tried focusing specifically on maximizing your EQ first? This can go a log way towards helping you to develop a string foundation- which would be more resistant to HF.

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Have you tried focusing specifically on maximizing your EQ first? This can go a log way towards helping you to develop a string foundation- which would be more resistant to HF.

When I stop PE my EQ goes up. So you can see my dilemma... Given that EQ drops with all PE exercises (flaccid or hard) I do feel like this is a pelvic muscular issue. My EQ is still pretty decent with the squeezes though. The best exercise so far. Unfortunately no gains as of yet.

19/1/2017 - 23, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection
21/1/2017 - 24, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection

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When I stop PE my EQ goes up. So you can see my dilemma... Given that EQ drops with all PE exercises (flaccid or hard) I do feel like this is a pelvic muscular issue. My EQ is still pretty decent with the squeezes though. The best exercise so far. Unfortunately no gains as of yet.

19/1/2017 - 23, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection
21/1/2017 - 24, 5 sec squeezes 90 % erection

Build up your stamina to a high level then slowly introduce enlargement exercises. Stretches can be especially taxing so you might want to start with jelqs first.

Once your EQ gets to very high levels you should be able to handle higher intensity movements with only positive effects.