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I'm a few years in now to pe in different forms. But for a year or so my routine is phallosan and Bathmate generally do 6 weeks pe one week rest and let my body let me know when to take rest days in between this seems to be working for me my gains are coming . My current size bp is7 3/4 x 5 1/2 which is very close to my goal of 8x6 but I might just stay going past and see where it Leeds me (no expectations) so anyone out there looking to start pe or doubting whether to stay the course . See it through it's worth it none of it's easy it's hard work and this forum is full of great articles and advice. I never had to ask a question here because someone had already ask it and all I had to do was read. So far so good. Hopefully I'll post a bit more over time as things progress and maybe I'll post my final results . Not for any reason other than someone who is thinking of taking up pe might read a post like this and embark on a life changing experience.