El1's Log

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Hello all I'm El1derful or El1. I'm new to PE (going into my 3rd week) and my goal is to grow a big dick. I understand this takes time which I'm willing to devote with full dedication.

So far I've followed JP's 90 day guide and I have no complaints or questions about it. Most of my questions had been answered in the 94+ pgs on that thread. My sessions are usually ~1hr and since I discovered edging its put me at the 1hr30 mark my last 2 sessions. Haven't experienced any negative PIs so far either.
Read somewhere that mastering edging takes time, but today I was able to hold it 4-5 times easily but the last one took me by surprise lol... note that I'm not a big fan of masturbation, though I let it off at least once a week. It worries me a bit to progress (edging at least) that fast but since I have yet to notice any negative PIs why stop?

Starting: 5/4/10
BPEL: 6.375"
EG: 5.25"

Goals: not so distant future (hopefully lol..)
BPEL:7"
EG: 6"

I actually measured today so those weren't really my starting point, but how much difference could there be in 2 1/2 weeks? Also, I've decided to update my logs once per week (at the end of the week) to provide updates, but if I have any questions I'll be back before then. Thanks. El1

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3rd week

3rd week totals
Here are my routine and updated stats.

warmup at least 10min hot shower
stretches hold right for 40 quick kegels, 10 big circles left and right, heli-shake count 20 and repeat for left, up, down, and straightout
jelqs & v-jelqs 3 sets of 50 wet jelqs (2 strokes = 1 rep) and 40 v-jelqs (1 stroke = 1 rep). wet jelqs 3-4sec each. v-jelqs 2-3sec each
edging 20-35min
warmdown hot shower
Total routine time: ~1hr25min (average)

FL: 3 5/8" BPFL: 4 7/8" BPFSL: 6 1/4 (+7" with stretched out foreskin..yay uncut lol) FG: 4 3/4
EL: 5 1/8 BPEL: 6 3/8" EG: 5 3/8"
Totals: EG: +1/8" and obvious flaccid gains but I didn't measure starting stats for any of them.

Questions and/or concerns:
1. Sometimes it feels like I haven't worked out at all, even right after my session. Is this routine too light or do I have high tolerance for penile damage? (lol)
2. Besides redness and slight swelling, actually goes away during my days off, I haven't noticed any negative PIs. In fact I haven't had any turtleing or pain at all. Would you recommend me to push higher limits (tougher routine)?

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Hi mate, as far as I know JPs routine is one of the harder beginner routines. Just take it easy in the beginning since you are conditioning first. Even if you feel as not working believe me this is a lot of stress for your member and you can easily take it to over training which is only counterproductive. Since you are experiencing positive PI.s my advice is to stick to your routine. The only thing that I would change is your warm up method. Shower isn't the best solution, go for a hot wash towel, or rice sock even better. Gl

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Thanks for the advice rocknrolla, I am definitely going to finish the 90 days.
As for the hot towel, I tried it at first but I found it cumbersome to have to reheat every few mins. With the shower I grab my shower head and put it 2-3inch away from my cock, it gets the blood flowing almost right away and I don't have to worry about reheating. As for the rice sock I have yet to try it. Believe it or not I don't have any rice in my house so I will have to go buy some just for this. Will return to give feedback on it though.
Sometimes I feel bad after all the water wasted just to warmup and I hope my bill statement isn't substantially larger either..lol

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I haven't yet tried rice sock myself so I can't advise you more on this subject. Don't worry about your bill's haha i think that's a fair trade off for a bigger penis :P

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Noticed some turtleing the morning of 5/09, possibly due to 5/08's session which was 1hr30min long. I don't think my cock likes 4-5sec jelqs, didn't seem like it would make that big of a difference, but now I know we're not there yet. So took the intensity down a notch to 2-3sec jelqs. This last 2 days my cock is back to normal so I guess that must have been it.
Today's pic looked great when compared to almost a month ago (I take a pic every few days), which made me happy. Didn't measure but I'm sure that I've made gains, can't wait till the end of the week (to measure.. lol).
Oh yea, I also made a rice sock.. with lentils (it was that or black beans.. and I love black beans lol) but it gets the job done. I love it, it is so much more efficient than the other warmup methods (though I can smell the lentils as the sock comes out of the microwave) definitely will stick to it from now on. Wonder if my cock smells like lentils now? Gotta ask someone to take a whiff lol

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4th Week Totals

FL: 3 7/8" BPFL: 5 1/8" BPFSL: 6 3/4" FG:4 3/8"
EL: 5 1/2" BPEL: 6 3/4" EG: 5 3/8"
Totals: FL: + 1/4" BPFL: + 1/4" BPFSL: + 1/4" FG: -3/8"??, EL: + 3/8" BPEL: + 3/8" EG: + 0
I think I might of screwed up measuring Flaccid Girth last week.

Because of negative PI I am doing some changes to my routine.

Warmup rice sock
Stretches: hold right + 40 kegels, 10 circles left + 10 circles right, helishake quick count 20. Repeat left, down, up and straight out.
Jelq: 50 wet jelq (2 strokes = 1 rep) + 30 vjelq (1 stroke = 1 rep) x 2 (sets)
Stretches: same as before but only half the amount. Hold right + 20 kegel, 5 circles, heli 10 count. left, down, up and so.
warmdown rice sock

Thoughts/Concerns:
I think 3 sets was causing me to over train and it showed with turtleing. My sessions were also getting too long. Midweek I changed from 4-5secs jelqs to 2-3sec and it helped to recover. My flaccid was once again normal. It wasn't until my last session (2 days ago) that I changed to the above routine and my flaccid has been hanging low and full since.
My edging has gone to hell though, I cannot do more than 15-20mins. I might be going way past the PONR before I try to stop it? But lately my sensitivity seems increased. I believe I need to strengthen my kegels before I can proceed with edging. Suggestions please.
Also, I've stopped getting small red bruises on my shaft (ever since I reduced my grip strength following pesg's advice). Yet, I've seen (read) of others with more time doing PE are still getting them. Is there a reason why?

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5th Week Totals

FL: 4" BPFL: 5 1/4" BPFSL: 6 1/2" FG:4 3/8"
EL: 5 3/8" BPEL: 6 5/8" EG: 5 3/8"
Totals: FL: + 1/8" BPFL: +1/8" BPFSL: -1/4"?? FG: same EL: -1/8" BPEL: -1/8" EG: same
BPFSL this time I measured holding the glans (ok grip) and holding next to a ruler and made an aproximation closer to the tip since the ruler was about 1/2" away from it (my finger holding my glans gets in the way).

The only positive result I saw from this week's routine was a longer lasting fuller flaccid and also my cock felt heavier? Which deceived me pretty well thinking it'd give me better results.
Due to this weeks results I believe my new routine is not going to work. I will most likely try JP's routine again this week this time placing more care on jelq duration (per stroke).

Thoughts/Concerns
I would like to keep my sessions as simple as possible, without having to use any devices, and without consuming any kind of supplements. Why? To build a strong foundation and basic understanding of how all those variables can affects my cock.
From a scientific point of view it's like establishing a control. Any other methods will account as variations and be evaluated against control to compare effectiveness.
And also to keep my costs to a minimum lol...

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Nice detailed log, you are doing fine mate. Try to hold stretches for 25, 30 max kegel since you are a beginner. Holding a stretch to much and to tight can be counter productive. Sensitivity could also be interpreted as better penis response. Don't change edgeing jet. Edge for 20 min max and build your way up.

For some better tracking of efficiency of your workout use EQ. I think it's a best P.I. Turtling can happen for several reasons so, don't be bother with it if it isn't a major one and for several days.

Good points for sticking with manual PE. I think that you can a least 1" on both basis if you commit yourself. Good luck mate, keep posting and asking questions. Take it slow.

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6th Week Totals

FL: 3 7/8" BPFL: 5 1/4" BPFSL: 6 3/8" FG: 4 7/8"
EL: 5 1/2" BPEL: 6 1/2" EG: 5 7/16" (lol)
Totals: FL: -1/8" BPFL: same BPFSL: -1/8" FG: +1/2" EL: same BPEL: same EG: +1/16"
I'm still having trouble measuring BPFSL but I'll try to keep it consistent (same measuring method) so as to reduce errors.

This week added new kegel routine I got from some forum (not here) I don't remember the name:
20min session, first 10min hard squeezes hold 5secs, rest. next 10min hold as long as possible, rest.
I do about 5-6 squeezes per minute the first 10mins, and 1 hold (up to 35secs) per minute the other 10mins.
I do this routine every other day.

I've been eating a lot of fried chicken this week.. don't know if it matters.
My EQ this week was so-so, though MW was always there when I wake up. Something I noticed, is that I get aroused a lot quicker now, hasn't caused me any problems yet since it only happens when I'm watching tv or when my mind wanders into the naughty side (lol).
Still not getting that "feel" after warmups, or a tired penis after a workout.
Been under a lot of stress lately dealing with getting employment and filling out application etc. At least now I'll have solid income for a few months (got 6mo paid internship). Got to work around new schedule next week we'll see how it goes.

Thoughts/Concerns:
For my FG I gained 1/2", I couldn't believe it. I noticed it is a lot bigger on the underside. I think thats the spongy tissue. Is this normal?
New kegel routine is not enough? I don't feel like I have a stronger erection, nor do I feel more control when edging. Will keep working on it.
My diet got screwed this week (got a lot of fried chicken from my country..lol), I don't feel any different but I know I haven't been eating healthy. Got to work on that too, wonder if it will get worse with work starting soon...

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7th Week Totals

FL: 4" BPFL: 5 1/4" BPFSL: 6 1/4" FG: 4 7/8"
EL: 5 3/8" BPEL: 6 3/8" EG: 5 3/8"
Totals: FL +1/8" BPFL: same BPFSL: -1/8" FG: same EL: -1/8" BPEL: -1/8" EG: -1/16"
Pretty much nothing changed.

This week I started work (8-5 mon-fri), my commute is about 1hr depending on traffic + I have school work to do after. I somehow managed to create a schedule and kept the full routine, however, it has left me definitely exhausted (taking time from sleep hrs). I think my tiredness should go away once I get used to this schedule, as my sleeping pattern before this week was way way different (8-10hrs daily).

This upcoming week I will try out 1/2 of JP's routine and change to the 2days on 1day off cycle to try and save some time for sleeping, if at least to upkeep the gains I've made so far.

The kegel routine I adopted last week has started to pay off, EQ went up, and wow what a difference. I still can't believe how hard I can get now (lol).

Because of the kegel routine, my edging has gotten a bit better too. My problem is I get to the first PONR after 8-10mins and I can't seem to hold back more than 3-4 PONRs (last week I had trouble stopping the third PONR).
The last PONR, I squeeze as hard as I can and I still can't stop it, which makes me think I still need to develop my PC muscles some more.
My limit seems to be around the 15min mark. I will keep trying.

Thoughts/Concerns:
Is there evidence linking physical/mental exhaustion and PE gains?

Edit: Forgot to mention that I should have updated my log yesterday but I went out and forgot about it, so I actually took my measurements this morning.