4dasnake's progress log

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starting size
5" MEG
4.6" NBPEL
6" BPEL
3" NBPFL


day 1

5min hot towel
10 min jelqing
5 min hot towel

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The journey of a thousand steps starts with one.

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The journey of a thousand steps starts with one.

One can only agree. Thank you!

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Day 2 slacking

Day 3 slacking

WEEK 1

Day 4

5 min hot towel
10 min jelqing
5 min hot towel

Day 5

5 min hot towel
10 min jelq
5 min hot towel



i might be thinking wishfully but
Flaccid is hanging longer and softer, I had a hard flaccid sort of thing beforehand

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Day 6
5min hot towel
10min jelq
5min hot towel

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day 7
5min hot towel
10min jelq
5min hot towel

Day 8
5min hot towel
10min jelq
5min hot towel

Day 9
rest day

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day 10 rest day

WEEK 2

day 11 5 min hot towel
10 min jelq
5 min hot towel

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day 12
5 min hot towel
10 min jelq
5 min hot towel

Day 13
5 min hot towel
10 min jelq
5 min hot towel

Day 14
5 min hot towel
10 min jelq
5 min hot towel

Day 15
5 min hot towel
10 min jelq
5 min hot towel

Day 16
rest day

Day 17
rest day

i feel like I am doing nothing. I just did some research and i decided to change my grip from an underhand to an overhand so as to protect the dorsal nerve and i'll reconsider grip strength

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Because you are doing nothing . Increase time/force put more effort in it . 10 minutes is nothing

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Because you are doing nothing . Increase time/force put more effort in it . 10 minutes is nothing

I'm with freshMAKER on this.

Seeing you have already done more than two weeks and still don't feel that you are getting a workout, you could try going onto the JP90 routine which should actually let you know you have done some PE if you do it correctly. The stretches will complement the Jelqing that you are already doing and there is plenty of info and support here on the Gym if you need advice.

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apparently you haven't read anything if you think 10 minutes jelq dont accomplish gains

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I can't get the stretching grip down. I need to circumsize my dick first because i've tried many times to stretch and my grip always slides over the beginning of my glans and I am essentially pulling my glans which is strongly forbidden because it causes injury. The only way it doesn't slide is if I grip with almost all my force and I feel pain and it's just stupid and after 10 seconds it slides over my glans anyways. I have no idea how uncut guys do it. I have a slight case of tight foreskin so maybe that's why....

Also how does "getting a good workout" feel like btw?

Unfortunately, being cut I can't help with ideas on on how to avoid your grip sliding problem for the stretches although it seems to me (perhaps wrongly) that the challenge should be much the same in both cases as you need to be gripping the inner penis to get an effective stretch whether cut or uncut correct? When stretching I am not relying on the exposed glans to prevent slippage and the effectiveness of the grip does not seem to be related to the amount of skin available to stretch. Here's hoping an experienced uncut member can make some useful suggestions for you.

For me, "getting a good workout" with JP90 would definitely have me feeling some fatigue in my ligs (from stretches, circle stretches and jelqs) for at least a few hours afterwards and after the jelqing sets were finished the upper 1/2 to 2/3 of my dick would be quite a dark red colour compared to normal with a fairly heavy and slightly swollen glans. I would usually take the opportunity to edge for 10 to 20 minutes immediately after completing my jelqing sets and the warm down after that. My dick would then have a pretty impressive hang for the next couple of hours and a generally fatigued feeling until the next day.

In my experience, done right (with a safe but significant amount of intensity built up over time) JP90 leaves you needing the days off which are generally somewhere between 2 on 1 off and 5 on 2 off. Personally, I struggled a bit to do 5 on 2 off primarily because of fatigue. I also experienced some minor newbie spots which helped me to gauge how much force was too much with the jelqing. I hope that this helps to understand how I could consider JP90 excercises as pretty intense activity.

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apparently you haven't read anything if you think 10 minutes jelq dont accomplish gains

I dont jelq at all cause i found it very exhausting and boring . Also dont need girth and i did read a lot about exercise . Secondly , i didnt say you wont accomplish gains . I just said that 10 minutes is not enough . When i do stretching routine i stretch for 30 - 40 minutes . When you go to the gym are you there only for 10 minutes ? If you want gains you need to put more time in it .

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Unfortunately, being cut I can't help with ideas on on how to avoid your grip sliding problem for the stretches although it seems to me (perhaps wrongly) that the challenge should be much the same in both cases as you need to be gripping the inner penis to get an effective stretch whether cut or uncut correct? When stretching I am not relying on the exposed glans to prevent slippage and the effectiveness of the grip does not seem to be related to the amount of skin available to stretch. Here's hoping an experienced uncut member can make some useful suggestions for you.

For me, "getting a good workout" with JP90 would definitely have me feeling some fatigue in my ligs (from stretches, circle stretches and jelqs) for at least a few hours afterwards and after the jelqing sets were finished the upper 1/2 to 2/3 of my dick would be quite a dark red colour compared to normal with a fairly heavy and slightly swollen glans. I would usually take the opportunity to edge for 10 to 20 minutes immediately after completing my jelqing sets and the warm down after that. My dick would then have a pretty impressive hang for the next couple of hours and a generally fatigued feeling until the next day.

In my experience, done right (with a safe but significant amount of intensity built up over time) JP90 leaves you needing the days off which are generally somewhere between 2 on 1 off and 5 on 2 off. Personally, I struggled a bit to do 5 on 2 off primarily because of fatigue. I also experienced some minor newbie spots which helped me to gauge how much force was too much with the jelqing. I hope that this helps to understand how I could consider JP90 excercises as pretty intense activity.

Wow! Amazing.
I know I should be pulling the inner dick but I can't because the skin is sliding over the inner dick. So I end up pulling only the skin and not the dick.
Many thanks for thoroughly explaining to me what overtraining feels like and I am definitely not doing anything because I feel neither of these things. I just decided it, from Monday I'll find a way to start JP90. I'll go buy some powder and some bandages to find a fucking way to pull that inner dick god damn it. Also I'll jelq with more pressure and an overhand grip. Many thanks bro for letting me know

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Wow! Amazing.
I know I should be pulling the inner dick but I can't because the skin is sliding over the inner dick. So I end up pulling only the skin and not the dick.
Many thanks for thoroughly explaining to me what overtraining feels like and I am definitely not doing anything because I feel neither of these things. I just decided it, from Monday I'll find a way to start JP90. I'll go buy some powder and some bandages to find a fucking way to pull that inner dick god damn it. Also I'll jelq with more pressure and an overhand grip. Many thanks bro for letting me know

Sounds like it would be worth a try anyway. For the stretches, i find it easiest to get a good grip on the inner penis if I am close to fully flaccid after the helicopter circles (glans will be a bit swollen but shaft should still be quite flaccid). The ok grip will be able to be pretty tight / small in this case so you should have quite a bit of resistance from the inner penis tissue about 1" above the glans to stop any tendency to slip down under the modest stretch that you will start of with (remember that you need to develop some conditioning in your legs before you go too hard). Once you get your grip sorted you should easily be able to get some stretch and "fatigue" going if my experience is anything to go by.

The other thing that occurred to me is that if you are having significant issues with jelqing due to grip perhaps you could consider a jelqing device which looks like it would not be too hard or expensive to construct based on what I have read or you could buy a ready made one (I noted a new device advertised on the forums banner ads). I don't have any experience with these however so am not sure if they would be better or worse than than the classic wet and v jelqs include in JP90.

Good luck and keep us all posted on your progress as I am sure that some more experienced PE'ers can help to overcome any issues that you might face getting the techniques down.