Roger's Log

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I'm just copying over my initial introduction from the beginner's forums, with an adjustment for initial size because I changed my measurement method:

Hey all,

I'm a very short guy and have always been proud of my penis size. I knew I wasn't huge, but I kinda thought that there were statistically few men significantly larger than me and that I'd probably always be near the biggest for any partner I'd have. My first few partners settled me into this confidence since they kept remarking how big I was... they must've been with a streak of small guys to think I was big.

Well, turns out I was all wrong about my size relative to others and it's really freaking me out. I'm the kind of person who focuses down problems and fixes them. I always thought penis size was absolutely unchangeable so I went through a really bad couple of weeks of anxiety attacks and inadequacy issues because I didn't know how to fix this problem. It bothers me that there are so many other guys that are literally 2-3 times larger (by volume) than I am and that's just how it is.

I'm baring this all to you guys because I need to get it off my chest and there's nobody else I can talk to about it. It's not an issue in my sex life now, but now that I know the truth about penis sizes and that chances are every partner I ever have for the rest of my life will have been with somebody significantly bigger than me... I need to do something or I'll explode from the inner turmoil.

Fortunately, I found Exercising the Penis and desperately read through the first half and started immediately on the beginner routine. I'm recording logs and carefully measuring regularly.

My initial stats:
BPEL: 6.375"
EG mid-shaft: 4.625"
EG base: 5"

I'm extremely skeptical about all of this, but I'm trying to follow everything rigidly and not over-train (a very tough temptation). After my first work out, I have gained to consistent EG mid-shaft 4.75", but that might have just been poor measuring the first time. Faith that this is going to do something is what's keeping me stable right now in a time when I'm way over-stressed in every other aspect of life.

My first goal (3 months)
BPEL: 6.75"
EG mid-shaft: 5"
EG base: 5.25"

My second goal (6 months)
BPEL: 7"
EG mid-shaft: 5.25"
EG base: 5.5"

My final goal (2 years?)
BPEL: 8"+
NBP: 7.5"+
EG mid-shaft: 6"+
EG base: 6.25"+

I'm planning on starting a log for myself in your forums soon and I guess this was a ridiculously long introduction post. Thanks for reading and thanks for putting out these resources.

--rog

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First update - 2 weeks

Okay, been at this for 2 weeks now. First work-out was 10/23/08 with the stats I listed above. I've worked myself up to:

10 minute warming with heating pad
5 minutes stretching (recently bumped into 45 seconds of out, right, left, down, up then 15 seconds of rest/warming in between each direction)
14 minutes wet jelqing (adding 1 minute per work out now)
2 15 second light uli squeezes

I'm also doing 20-30 kegels every time I go to the bathroom, 1-2 kegel slams every time I go on an elevator, 60 JAI stretches on work-out days. My current routine is MWF. I plan to maintain this routine for another week before considering adding in T or R. I don't think I'll be able to work out on weekends so I'm trying to fit all of my exercise into the weekday mornings.

My latest stats were:
BPEL: 6.5" [This is at least an increase of 0.125"!! I've adjusted my initial measurements to compensate for a change in measurement method]
EG mid-shaft: 4.75" [An increase of 0.125" from the initial measurement I don't trust much. No big increase but I think I'm hitting this size without too much difficulty whereas before I was straining to reach it]
EG base: 5" [no change]

I'm having a very tough time consistently measuring flaccid, so it's more of a "how I feel" than a measurement.

Changes I've noticed:
1) Small increases in size! I'm pretty sure the length measurements are valid and have refined my technique to be more reliable for future results.
2) When I first started kegels, I began having trouble coming ridiculously early during sex but that has subsided.
3) My flaccid "feels" more massive. It's measurements are similar but it feels like there's a lot more blood/tissue in it for more of the time. It hasn't shrunk down to any of the 'small' states that were embarrassing before.
4) Sex has improved. I think I'm starting to have multiple orgasms for the first time ever and staying harder for longer after orgasm.
5) I had "morning wood" for the first time that I've noticed in a really long time a few days ago.

Concerns:
1) After yesterday's work-out, a small area right below the head looked unusually swollen. Feeling it, it felt like a blood pocket area in the outer skin. It subsided, but when masturbating later it came back about the same size. It doesn't hurt but if I see it again on Friday I'm probably going to stop and wait until Monday before exercising again.
2) I noticed that my penis sometimes looks an unusual shape while flaccid. The base and tip were both 'normal size' while the middle had kinda shrunken in a little, giving it a strange hourglass shape. With a tiny bit of stretching, this goes away.
3) I've changed my technique for wet jelqing to do 1/2 shaft, reposition hands, then the rest of the shaft. My skin doesn't like to slide well and I can't get good pressure inside the shaft if I let it slide but this seems to have fixed the problem.
4) I'm worried about the base girth increasing. Does jelqing improve that too? I've been starting each jelq as close to the skin as possible but it seems like I just can't get the same pressure internally as I do with the mid and end.
5) I want more now!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I'll update again in a couple weeks or as problems arise.

--rog

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Wow, Roger. That's quite a routine for just beginning. What kind of lube are you using for your wet Jelqs? That swollen spot is probably a bruise. Back off the tightness of your grip a bit. I got base girth gains first, so yours will grow also. Just Jelq 1/2 way up the shaft for the first dozen or so of your wet Jelqs, very slowly. Want more now? Can't have it. Gotta earn it. Hee.

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Friday update

Thanks for the feedback, JonPop. I'm currently using ol' Astroglide. Seems to work okay. I don't get any skin tears and I only noticed bronzing after my first work-out, when I had no idea what I was doing. I've read a bit about essential vein oil and might try that out in the next week or two.

The weird swollen area was unnoticeable during sex yesterday, so I figured I could handle a moderate work-out today. I took Friday easy, only doing 10 minutes warm-up, 5 minutes stretch, 10 minutes wet-jelq. The first 2 minutes of wet-jelq I did base 1/2 only, like you suggested. I didn't notice the swollen area at all until the very end when it was slightly stand-out. I think it has something to do with that region being the thinnest for my shaft (immediately under the head), so it's getting the most pressure during jelqs? I'm glad I've got a weekend break recovery time built into my schedule before my next work-out on Monday.

I'm thinking of starting over at 10/5/10 and adding 1 minute to jelqing every work-out until I hit 20 minutes (~3 weeks), then doubling my stretching for a week, then finally starting some advanced girth exercises! I'm also cutting out all squeezes for awhile. I didn't realize those were so advanced and liked the feel of some real pressure. My goal is to get up to PE every weekday for ~1 hour. From what I've read of the big gainers, it takes at least that much dedication over around 1.5 years to see big changes. Perhaps I'll throw in a 4th PE day in another week...

I'm usually taking about 2 seconds per half-shaft jelq. So a full one-hand jelq takes 4-5 seconds and a full set (double-hand) takes around 10 seconds. I lose count easily, so measuring with a stopwatch is more reliable. Is that too fast or too slow for jelqing?

Also, I have trouble maintaining a consistent erection %, so I usually get myself up to 90%, then jelq for a minute or two, and it gets down to around 40% and I start over. Any advices?

Yea, and a final note: I'm not allowing myself to measure all the time anymore (like every day). I was getting way too obsessed with the minor day-to-day changes. I'm going to measure next at the 1 month mark in ~2 weeks. Wish me luck!

--rog

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Yeah, good luck Roger. My only suggestion is; Astroglide dries out too quickly and isn't really that good for the skin. Get yourself some Johnson & Johnson, "Baby Oil Gel" with Lanolin. This stuff is 'tit's' to Jelq with.

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1 month

Okay, it's been a month now of continual PE. I've continued to slowly ramp up my routine. I'm currently at:
1) Take a hot shower (I was getting tired of using the heating pad and this seems to make me about as pliable)
2) 5 minutes stretching
3) 17 minutes jelqing

I've been adding 1 minute of jelqing per work-out. I couldn't find that baby oil gel with lanolin when I looked at my local pharmacy, so instead I switched to dry jelqing because I feel like I get a lot more control from that and it's less stress on my skin.

Since it's the 1 month mark, I let myself remeasure:
BPEL: 6.625" [increase of .125" since last measurement!]
EG mid-shaft: 4.75" [no change]

I'm stoked about the increase in length although that's not really what I'm shooting for. It's been feeling a lot 'thicker' lately and I was sure I was going to see at least another 1/16 in girth. I'm pretty bummed about the lack of girth progress (I was hoping to break 5" asap). I think I'm doing more than enough of a work-out, so I'm going to continue my slow increase in exercise, adding 1 minute per workout until I hit 20 minutes. Then I'll keep that steady for a week while increasing my stretching to 10 minutes. Then, depending on how it's going, I'll be adding in some more advanced girth exercises.

Other concerns/changes:
1) My EQ has started varying more than usual. It went down very low for a couple days but now it's back to normal. I had read somewhere that that sometimes happens with gains, so I thought maybe I was making a real gain (girth please!) but measurement didn't back that up. There may be a correlation between heavy kegel days and low EQ for me.
2) I'm still kegeling regularly throughout the work week. And I'm doing the JAI stretches periodically, but I tend to only do them when it feels like it actually stretches it out. When I am fully flaccidly elongated, I don't feel like they do anything.
3) I'm coming up on a time period where I won't be able to regularly/rigidly exercise Mon/Weds/Fri. I'm hoping to manage at least 2 per week, at least to keep as conditioned as possible.

Any comments would be appreciated, otherwise I'll check in in another two weeks, when I should have finished my basic penis conditioning bootcamp!

--rog

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2 months

Wow, I can't believe it's been 2 months already. I'd like to have a title like "Amazing progress! I'm a believer now!" But, that isn't going to be my PE journey. I've been traveling a lot lately and trying very hard to maintain a minimum of 2 work-outs per week to continue my conditioning. I was briefly in town 2 weeks ago (at my allowed measurement day) and found a slightly decreased length and same girth measurement. I'm attributing it to poor EQ because I was rushed and unfocused. Other than that one measurement, I've had neutral or positive PI's.

After my last progress report, I accomplished my exercise expansion goals and extended my jelqing time to 20 minutes then stretch time to 10 minutes. Now at the 2 month mark, I am still out of town. I am only measuring with the exact same instruments to maintain the most reliable numbers, so I'll have to wait a bit longer to remeasure when I'm home. Unfortunately, I'm not expecting any increases...

My current work-outs are varying wildly. I'm experimenting with a lot of new methods to find what might work best for me.

Warm-ups: 5-10 minutes
1) Hot showers
2) Heating pads
3) Nothing

I think the heating pad works best at the moment. I've been wanting to try the glass of hot water method, but this is a little difficult to do inconspicuously. And I don't know if I want to stand with my dick in a glass for 10 minutes. Does nobody find that awkward?

Stretches: 10 minutes
1) 45-50 second stretches out, right, left, down, up with slight shifts around the direction in order to find the areas which need best stretches
2) Helicopter stretches - Haha, I'm great with my right hand but can't do this with my left!
3) Erect bends - 80-100% erection bends against my hand going up, down, left, right for ~30 seconds each.

I don't know if my current stretch routine is doing much for me besides warming me up for jelqing. I need to move into some kind of new stretches.

Jelqs: 20-25 minutes
1) 60-90% erection jelqs focusing on the base only (dry)
2) 60-90% erection jelqs along the entire shaft (dry)
3) Kingpole (I believe, in another thread) suggested a jelq where you hold an okay grip under the glans to increase pressure in the rest of the jelq of the opposing hand. I've tried this and really like the increase in pressure at the base and mid-shaft of my jelq.
4) Devised around the jelq by Kingpole, I hold the head with the opposing hand, kegel into my penis while lightly holding the base to fill with as much blood as possible, then tighten the base and slightly squeeze the head to push blood out of it into the rest of the penis, then slowly move the base hand up the shaft. This works very well in closely controlling the amount of pressure in the entire shaft.
5) 1 or maybe 2 light ULI squeezes for 15-20 seconds.

During the full length jelqs, my penis' head is filling like a friggen balloon. This is probably a good thing, to try to expand my head size... One time I saw spots of red on the head that worried me, so I backed off and waited until it healed. Again, I'm not sure what to do next to continue my PE journey.

Cool-downs: ???
1) Hot shower
2) Glass of cool water for 1-2 minutes
3) Nothing

I've only tried the cool water cooldown twice now. It seems to pause the penis before it can shrink too much. I'll try it a bit more.

Next month's goals
1) Reach 5 work-outs per week
2) Add in 1 new length exercise and 1-2 new girth exercises
3) Look into hangers, buy one, attempt at least one hanging exercise
4) Get results!!

Questions
1) I'm strongly considering starting hanging soon. With my size (4.5" EG under glans, 4.75" mid-shaft), I believe a Bibstarter would be the best option for me. I don't mind investing a little money in this if it's the easiest and most effective route to progress. Any opinions?
2) Am I a hardgainer? I'm doing moderate to upper level work-outs for a beginner, yet I'm not seeing much of negative PI's.
3) Any suggested exercises to try adding in?

Thanks again, everybody.

--rog

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You were never small Rodger, perfectly normal size penis nothing to be ashamed of.

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The second triad

Well, January and the beginning of February have been a lot rougher than I was expecting. I continued regular exercises averaging 3x per week until January 23rd, my 3 month PE anniversary. Also, mid-way through January, I received my Jelq device and started adding in around 10 minutes of jelqing with the device to replace half of my normal dry jelqing.

My 3 month measurements:
BPEL: 6.625" [no change]
EG mid-shaft: 4.75" [no change]

This was a bit of a let-down, and then I got sick with some kind of cold. My EQ dropped to nothing and my sex drive disappeared (literally nothing, no erections). So, I've been on a break until this week. I figured a 2 week break would be good to rebound and get my normal erections back. This year has sucked so far, let me say. Including February, with a new break-up added to the mix...

Anyway, PE is still a priority for me, and I feel like I need to make some large changes in my routine. I began my second 3-month PE journey on Monday of this week, but I don't think I planned out my PE well.

2/9/09
No real warm-up
10 minutes stretching [1 minute in each direction]
20 minutes jelqing [roughly half with the jelq device and half dry manual jelqs]
2 ULI's [not very hard]
15 minutes edging
No real warm/cool-down

2/11/09
No real warm-up
10 minutes stretching
15 minutes jelqing
15 minutes edging
No real warm/cool-down

Some notes:
1) I don't think I'm 100% recovered from that cold because my sex drive is still at like 70%.
2) I don't think my February routines were good because they seemed like more of the same. I need to change something.
3) I'm feeling lost right now. My exercises are varying frequently because I'm not sure what's working and what's wasting time.

I don't think I need to be adding in more advanced exercises, based on several other success logs. I want to try returning to a more basic set of exercises. The only noticeable gains I had were right at the beginning when I was doing wet jelqs and more proper warm-ups. Based on this, this is the routine I'm planning on using for the rest of February:

1) 15 minute warm-up with rice sock [This is a challenging problem because I live with a roommate. I'm not sure how I'm going to surreptitiously handle this. I've also not used rick socks before so they're a bit of a mystery. I mean, really, rice in a sock? What?]
2) 10 minute stretches [1 minute in each direction, 20 jelqs per direction, repeat entire set]
3) 5 minute additional warm-up [It's cold right now. Any additional warm-up can't hurt, right?]
4) 15 minute wet jelq [5 second minimum per jelq. I need a new oil. I hated using Astroglide, but haven't found that Lanolin-based oil yet.]
5) Edge for as long as possible, ideally 20 minute minimum
6) Probably end up orgasming at the end

And a final note, I'm considering trying the AutoXleeve ADS. I'm concerned with my penis staying in a non-elongated state for too much of the day. This might be a relatively easy fix. Anybody tried it?

--rog

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I ended up getting into my new regular routine on February 13th, so that's where I'm counting the beginning of my second 3 month triad. I measured on March 13th, and had:

BPEL: 6 10/16" (no change)
EG mid-shaft: 4 13/16" (+1/16!)
EG base: 5 1/16" (+1/16!)

My routine has been getting much more regular lately. It is, and has been for almost all of the last month:

M, T, R, F every week:
15-25 minutes warm-up with heating pad [I tried a rice sock for awhile... I'll be trying again soon, but this is a pretty reliable way for me]
10 second bends right, left, down, up
30 second stretches out, right, left, down, up
20 JAI stretches
7-8 minutes wet jelqing [I love that Bio-Oil stuff!]
End with either a 15-30 minute edging session or a 5 minute cool down with a cool wet wash cloth [depends on sex energy level]

Then I do kegels every time I get on an elevator (~100 a day) and some minor stretches whenever I go to the bathroom.

I'm having some seriously amazing flaccids currently. Yesterday, I was at somewhere around 4.25-4.5" girth and 5" flaccid length most of the day! I'm planning on continuing on the exact same plan for another month. Thanks for the advice & guidance everybody; I think I might finally be on my way to some real gains!