makeitbig's 2009 Progress Log

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I started PE for about a week back in November but wasn't consistent, now I'm going to be 100% on a 2 on and 1 off schedule until I meet my goals. My current stats are as follows

BPEL: 6.7"
NBPEL: 6.1"
BPFL: 4.2"
NBPFL: 3.4"

FG:4"1 (both girth measurements under shaft)
EG: 5.1"

My current routine is

- 8 minute warmup under shower with shower head directly above penis
- 5 - 10 Min stretch in all directions with 25 kegels and 40 circles with helicopter shakes
- 10 minutes of jelqing
- 120 kegels (200 kegels also during the day)
- edging 5 - 10 minutes

* Is my routine good enough? any tips? Should i edge for longer on off days?

My Goals

NBPEL: 7.5"
EG: 6"

10/2/2009
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This was my first session. side effects included turtling, redness of shaft and my penis more vainy. Wasn't really sure how much pressure to apply when jelqing too (any tips). pubic hair got in the way which i might need to trim down.

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You're probably squeezing too hard if you turtle after the session. Try a lighter grip, one that's just enough to get blood moving and no more than that.

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thanks for reply!

12/2/09

it was my third session today. my dick is sore and feels stretched as usual. just a few questions

- after my stretching, jelqing, warmup i feel my EQ is pretty average whilst im doing my edging. that is normal right becaues ur dick is sore from the exercises? - is it maybe better that i edge on my off days? (remembering i do a 2-1 schedule)
- is lesser erection level better for jelqing? i try to do it at 70% but i cant really keep it up consistently at that length and then i stop jelqing and wank to get it up again. does it matter if im doing it at 70% then drop down to like 50% then go up to 70% again?
- how much tension do u have to feel whilst stretching. a slight one or heavy?

cheers guys

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I personally feel that 50% or so is good. Percentages are strange, but think of it as your erect penis, but pliable and bendy. You shouldn't feel any hardness when you squeeze, but there should be enough blood to get a good pump. I think lower erection jelqs are good for newbies, you can try the higher erection jelqs to see how you respond to them after you've conditioned yourself.

I only feel a slight tension when stretching, however my stretching principle is long static stretching - holding stretching for ever-longer minutes rather than the short, intense 30 second stretches that guys do. I feel that a gentler stretch (but stretching as far as you are able to - just not stretching too hard) is the best for gains.

As for the unable to get 100% erect during edging post-workout, I've seen a lot of guys on this forum that do edging with their warm down at high erection levels. If it's not arousal levels, it's likely a sign of fatigue. The question is of course is that going to be detrimental or a good thing for your gains? I'm not sure. I've read both ideas that being unable to edge after a session means you're overworking and guys that have done more intense routines and don't feel like they've done enough until they can't edge afterwards. I'd say stick with your current routine for another week, see if you continue to be unable to edge afterwards and if you can't then dial back the routine some until you can. Make sure it's fatigue and not just a lack of arousal that's doing this though. You could be tired mentally after the routine too.

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13/2/09
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Today was a pretty good session. I got larger flacid hang for hours after my session. It was good i didn't turtle after the session suggesting my grip was better. Just a few questions.

- One thing i find it easier to jelq at a higher erection level (like 70 - 75), when its more flaccid you end up curling your dick when you milk it - i dont know if this is fine??? The problem is keeping your dick at around 70-75% when jelqing, you end up wanking and stoping jelqing to get it up there again
- Another thing is that im still finding my dick exhausted after the session therefore not letting me to do any sort of edging. Should i do this edging on an off day or sometime before my session?
- are you suppose to jelq straight out?
- when you have milked up to the shaft do you stretch out the dick a bit?
- because im uncircumcized i sorta have to use one hand to pull the skin down when the other one milks and then i switch, is this fine?

Ive also decided im going to measure every 9th of the month!

thanks in advance

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Today was a pretty good session. I got larger flacid hang for hours after my session. It was good i didn't turtle after the session suggesting my grip was better. Just a few questions.

That's a great PI! I'm glad the new grip is working for you.

- One thing i find it easier to jelq at a higher erection level (like 70 - 75), when its more flaccid you end up curling your dick when you milk it - i dont know if this is fine??? The problem is keeping your dick at around 70-75% when jelqing, you end up wanking and stoping jelqing to get it up there again

Take your time when you jelq. Quality over quantity - if 70-75% is what does it for you then try to stay in that range. Keep yourself relaxed, this should help. Could you explain the curling a bit more? Do you mean that you bend your penis at some point? I'd say try to avoid this - you can give yourself a gradual curve over a lot of time doing jelqing (I knew a fellow who intentionally gave himself an upward curve for more stimulation, so you can work this to your advantage if you want).

Another thing is that im still finding my dick exhausted after the session therefore not letting me to do any sort of edging. Should i do this edging on an off day or sometime before my session?

What's your EQ like normally? (Not after a PE session). Morning wood? If you've got a high EQ and good PI's, I'd say go with the routine and forget about edging afterwards. It's not truly known whether or not edging helps with gains, so don't stress over not being able to edge afterwards IF your PI's are all good. If your EQ's suffering, scale your routine down some. Try scaling it down by 1/3 or so at first, see if PI's improve, and if they do continue with that new volume.

are you suppose to jelq straight out?

Not necessarily. I do, personally, but some men jelq straight down (supposedly helps with length gains), some even jelq to the sides or upwards. It's all a matter of preference. I feel I get the best workout jelqing straight out, but you need to find what works for you.

when you have milked up to the shaft do you stretch out the dick a bit?

I do. I feel this helps with length gains over time. Nothing strenuous, just a light stretch.

because im uncircumcized i sorta have to use one hand to pull the skin down when the other one milks and then i switch, is this fine?

Yes, that's fine.

Good luck!

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Thanks so much for reply!On my day off i noticed something on my dick when i pull my skin down under my shaft i noticed like split skin running along the edge of the foreskin? Is this considereda pe injury. It does sting when i pull the foreskin now and also ive noticed dark red dots on my shaft. Do u think because im uncircumcised i should just jelq with the skin up because i think pulling it down every jelq has split the skin. Can jelqing still work this way? Thx in advance

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Sounds like you cut yourself, so yeah I'd say keeping the skin up should be fine when you jelq. Safety first! Dark red dots may be a sign of too tight of a grip. If they keep sticking around I'd take some time off and come back at it with a lighter grip.

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17/2/09
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I had a extra day break due to the 'cut' on my foreskin. However today it got heaps better and i was at it at my routine. As stated before i have gotten rid of edging due to poor EQ after my workout! Workout wasn't bad today, instead of doing 200 kegels after my workout i decided to do 50 - 5 second ones, i found these to be much more challenging. a few questions.

- I tried something today whilst jelqing. At the end of a stroke where the hand is just under the shaft before the other hand starts stroking - well i kegelled at this point. Should i continue doing this? im guessing there is benefits to this?
- Right after the the workout i didnt have any turtling but i didnt so much have more flaccid hang. is this abad thing? do i always have to have flaccid hang after a workout to prove i had a good one??

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- I tried something today whilst jelqing. At the end of a stroke where the hand is just under the shaft before the other hand starts stroking - well i kegelled at this point. Should i continue doing this? im guessing there is benefits to this?

That's called a power jelq. It's a more advanced variation on the normal jelq.

- Right after the the workout i didnt have any turtling but i didnt so much have more flaccid hang. is this abad thing? do i always have to have flaccid hang after a workout to prove i had a good one??

I think you'll be all right as long as you don't turtle (generally), but I feel that a good flaccid pump post-workout is a good sign. I wouldn't worry about it too much... if you continue to not get a post-jelq pump I'd say go back to the jelqing technique you were using when you did have a flaccid hang rather than kegeling before each stroke.

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19/2/09
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I promised not to measure until at least a month passed but sometimes u cant hold back. I forgot to mention that about 2 days ago i started taking a bodybuilding supplement which is a NO tablet and has heaps of arginine in it. Maybe it might be due to this but I today recorded my EG to be 14cm or 5.512" - thats an increase of 0.394" in like a week and a half, is this possible? My NBPEL which i really wan to grow has increased roughly a few milimetres from like 15.5cm (6.102") to 15.7cm (6.181). I will now not measure till the 9th of march like i originally intended to and see how it goes.

I haven't had a workout today but Im just about to start.

talk soon

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17/3/2008
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Im still here, its been about 5 weeks since i started peing. im not going to measure anything yet. im goign to wait until 2 months which will be around 9th of april. i have changed my routine a bit. currently its

10 min warm up under hot shower
stretches - up down out left right - hold for 1min and do 30 circles
jelqing - 10 mins
4 x 25 kegels
warm down 5 minutes in shower

Ive been doing about 200 (or more) kegels during the day. One thing ive noticed in the past 2 days - on friday i went interstate and didn't pe for about 3 days and forgot to bring my l-arginine supplement and hydroxycut (containing yohimbe) which was prob one of the only times i havent taken it since i started peing. Yesterday when i was about to have sex with my gf i noticed my dick wasn't Rock hard and it felt sort of numb on the knob (this is after a weekend of drinking at a bucks weekend). today when i edged for a bit after my session i noticed that my knob is almost numb like. why could this be? could i be kegelling too much or something? i repeat ive only noticed this after i missed pe and my arginine tablets + hydroxycut supplement (contains yohimbe) and after a weekend of drinking? Could this be affecting it??

Can somebody help me please?