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I think I'm losing girth. I measured it today and it's 5.5" MEG.
I don't know if it's because I'm properly measuring, or if I actually hurt myself.
~FUCK~

I'm going to start adding in some girth exercises from now on.

Also, my length is difficult to accurately measure. It's somewhere between 6.5' NBPEL and 7". The slightest movement of the measuring tape or of my hips will change what I see from 1/4" or a half inch.
I guess whatever I do, I just need to stay consistent, so that I can read it properly. But it bugs me because I thought I had gained 1/4" ... but maybe I misread.

I've been doing the JP90 for some time now, so I moved on to stretching. I am doing a 2 days on, 1 day off for now with this routine:
15-20 min. warmup with a rice sock
JP90 warmup stretches

I stretch in all direction (at 12:00, at 3:00, at 6:00 and at 9:00) for 30 second in reach direction.
At first I was doing two full rotations, but I worked my way up to 4. That comes out to 8 full minutes of stretching.

Then I do a slow round-house with my dong. One full rotation takes about 15-25 seconds ... and I do four full rotations.

Then I do a 45 second internal stretch, followed by two sets of 30 second bundled stretches.
I do this 3 times.

I do all of this twice. It takes about 40 minutes.
Then, I do not warm down. I do the same stretches as I did to warm up, and that's it.
I don't warm down because I heard that a cool-down is more beneficial. I haven't been able to get an ice pack yet .. that will come soon.



My plan here is to work up to doing a jelqing and stretching routine. I'm mainly length-oriented, but I need to start caring more for my girth ... since I'm liable to lose it, apparently.
So I was thinking of an alternating routine, one day of stretching, another of jelqing and girth-exercises. I'd do a 4 days on, 2 days off deal.

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Trying to get to MMOs is hard. It requires you do also have a kegelling routine ... Maybe I can do those on my day off? This is cool. I can see a week-long routine building up.
I can reach a very weak dry orgasm. But It's hard to control myself when I get to the PONR. I feel it coming... Stop. I'm breathing heavily, I tell myself... Okay, stop, you're about to finish. You need to stop.
Then I wait a couple of second. "OH JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE"
and boom, I'm not.
It's strange to me how I lack self control here. I like to think I'm fairly disciplined in other areas of my life. It's something to work on!

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If anyone even reads this, please feel free to drop your comments, either in here or through messaging. I'd like to know the opinions of people who have gained.

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Wassup toad,

I just got done reading your log. Keep up the good work. I just have a few things i would suggest.

I had the same problem as you as i'm sure almost everyone else did with when just beginning and having a hard erection while trying to do their routine. What i found best that helped me was taking deep breaths while i counted my strokes. I can't begin to tell you how much it help and it is also very relaxing. Also this is another part of starting out is not only getting your fellow down there to be conditioned but also your mind conditioned/rewired to differentiate between masturbating and pe.

I would also suggest that you focus on one thing either girth or length. I think your trying to structure your routine to gain everything at once but in the end i think it is going to mess up on what your really want which is length. Scarifices have to be made to reach the greater good.

I think I'm losing girth. I measured it today and it's 5.5" MEG.
I don't know if it's because I'm properly measuring, or if I actually hurt myself.
~FUCK~

I'm going to start adding in some girth exercises from now on.

My plan here is to work up to doing a jelqing and stretching routine.I'm mainly length-oriented, but I need to start caring more for my girth ... since I'm liable to lose it, apparently.
So I was thinking of an alternating routine, one day of stretching, another of jelqing and girth-exercises. I'd do a 4 days on, 2 days off deal.

You are above average in girth and i don't think you should worry to much about that if you goal is length-orientated, so i would say that you focus on length for now.

Um, just another quick suggestion i would switch to measuring bpel. I know it doesn't count when it comes to sex but you get a far more accurate reading doing it this way then measuring nbpel.

Wish you the best of luck as you continue on in your peing . I hope you found these suggestiones useful.

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I'd like to have my cake and eat it too, please. I want both.
I was thinking about my routine today, and I thought that maybe I should lower the amount of bundled stretches I do and throw in some jelqing after the stretch. The idea here is that bundled stretches are hard and will fatigue the penis. I also want to plump up the dong after the stretch to physically force that blood flow through it. I can do variations of the jelq for 20 minutes so that I can reach an hour in exercise time.

Separating Jacking from Jelqing. Sounds like a catchy slogan...

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I'm also going to incorporate the theory I found here:The Penis Training Principles to Truly Increase Penis Size
I did a quick sketch of what my routine will look like for the jelqing portion. After a month of adding a 2% rep increase each training day, I will go from this:
50 Jelqs/Vjelqs and 4 Uli J jelqs

To this:
66 Jelqs/Vjelqs and 6 Uli Vjelqs.

Slowly increasing my load is supposed to increase my size. Since there is no rushing this, I need to take it slowly.

I'm assuming I shouldn't exceed 45 seconds of stretching. I wonder if the same would be true for the reps in stretches?

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I feel like I"m doing too many internal stretches. I'm going to cut them in half.
Right now, I'm up to around 60 jelqs or so. I got impatient and bumped it up to 5 Uli V jelqs early. I'm pretty sure I could do another one or two, but I'll take it slow. I still have another week and a bit before I hit 6.
I've also added in some 45 second mandingo stretches. I find they're similar to a bundled stretch.
I'm also considering doing a cool down after the stretches, and then warming up again for another 10-15 minutes. It will increase my time by 20-30 minutes,

I'm taking 1 or 2 days of rest for every 4 days on. The cool thing about PE is that I don't need to feel bad for missing a day of workout. I'm not turtling as much, I have a longer flaccid hang and I'm plumper too. Not consistently, but the more I listen focus on my peen, the better results I get.
I also look at morning wood differently now. I see it as either a happy penis, or an overworked penis.

I'm also going to do kegels now. I'm going to do a 1 day on, 1 day off. I think my edging problems are derived from a weak PC.
Edging is a BITCH. the ponr hits me from nowhere, and I finish without wanting to. I need to keep watching my breathing because I have the tendency of holding it in.
I find that if I do reverse kegels while edging, I have the chance of losing my erection, or not getting one. It's almost like I'm denying blood from going in, or forcing it out of the penis.

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I hate reading about injuries. They make my dick turtle. I can almost feel the pain.

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Yes, Toadstool!! It is extremely important to keep your breathing deep and relaxed. Breathe in and breathe out long and slow. This will tell your dick to relax as well. If you practice this deep breathing from the diaphragm, it will relax the groin muscles and the suspensory ligaments, and this, in turn, will allow your penis to extend and not retract/turtle. I KNOW this approach was a large part of my dramatic gains back in 2003/2004.

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Toad wats up bro. Looks like you got things on going on the right track. Keep it up bro.

I 100% agree with the breathing when it comes to edging a sec or 2 in and a sec and 2 out. When you feel yourself start focusing on the sensation of how it great it feels take a breath and remember the reason why you are edging.

Keep practicing and you will conquer the ponr

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Thanks guys! I appreciate the comments. Repped~

I did two 20-30 minute edging sessions last night. I was tingling after. Always a great feeling

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I just finished reading a story about how a guy would do 5 weeks on (with a routine of 3 days on, 2 off) and then take a whole week off.
That's... So little!
Next week, I'm taking it off. I'm going to incorporate week-long breaks into my routine. I wonder if edging counts?

So, Saturday, December 10 was when I started my week-long break. I'm picking it up Sunday, December 18th.

When I start up again, here is what my routine will look like:
15-20 minute warm up with a rice sock
JP90 stretches to get it started.
45 second mandingo stretches x 4
60 second internal stretches x 2
35 second bundled stretches x 4
All this x2
(about 14 minutes of stretching)

I cool down for about 5 minutes with a cold cloth.
Then I warm up again for 10-15 minutes with the rice sock

60 jelqs
6 Uli V jelqs
x3

Then a warm-down of 10-20 minutes.


To anyone reading this, I aim for 5 days on, 2 days off sort of deal. Sometimes it's more, sometimes it's less.
I try to be generous with my resting days and I pay good attention to my PIs. I like the week-long break idea. I'm going to do that more often.

I'll be honest, sometimes I don't make it through the jelqing part of the work out. I start to feel... cramped? It's uncomfortable. Most of the time, it all feels good, but sometimes it starts to border painful.
I stop immediately when this happens and warm down.

Supplements I take:
Ginko Biloba
Fish Oils
zinc
Protein supplements

I'm also very active. I'm at the gym almost every day. I do cardio, I lift weights. I eat amazingly healthy. I'm known as the "health freak" to all my friends. I'm vegetarian.
I do smoke pot. However, 1 gram lasts me 1 month or more.
I drink on occasion. Maybe 1 beer, or a glass of wine. Not big into alcohol

Oh yea,
I also do kegels and edging.
I do kegels every day, either with the routine (in the JP stretches), or I do 3-5 sets of 50 kegels, with one 10-20 second hold at the end every other day.
Edging I do for 20-40 minutes when I can. I want to DO and MMO... but it's not coming so great.

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It's weird. When I do these exercises, it doesn't seem like much. I enjoy every second of it and when I'm finished, I usually feel like I could do more. Or maybe it just seems big because I write it out in full like that? When others write, it's usually "X minutes of stretching, Y in jelqing." Makes it seem small and simple.
But now that I'm seeing it written out, it seems like a ton. Other people's routines seem so small and simple. Mine's jumping back and forth between different exercises.
I really like it though. I never have problems with erection. I'm consistently getting 90-100% erections. It doesn't hurt, doesn't turtle, no discolouration ... my PI's are saying "gogo" but I'm getting afraid.

Whenever I read stories of people losing the function in their cocks, my brain tells me I should stop completely. I love my dick. I never want it to die

I'll see how it goes and I'll reevaluate it all at christmas.

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So I started up my routine again, and the stretches left my dick feeling uncomfortable. They also gave my ding dong an accordion look.
So I'm stopping the stretches altogether.

I'm doing a simple a JP90 routine, but am replacing the Vjelqs with Vuli Jelqs.

And I'm happy to say that I am now 7.5"BPEL
and still 5.5" MEG <---- I swear this goes up a 1/4 inch sometimes.

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I swear my penis shrunk. or maybe not?
Last time I measured, I was 7.5 BPEL. Now when I measure, I'm 7.25. where'd that 1/2 inch go??
The only thing I can think of is how my EQ is really good. When I'm measuring, it's a 9.5 or 10. It has a slight curve to it that may not be accounted for in the measuring.
Seriously though, how disappointing is that?

I have started doing stretches again. It feels much better doing them.
My problem is that I can't stick to one routine. I jump from jelqs to stretches and back. I don't think I'm hurting myself, but it's not optimal for finding gains.

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When mine member is fully erect it is 7 3/4 BPEL and about 7 1/2 NBPEL, but when the EQ is lower, it is a little lower about 1/8-1/4 of an inch. This is common. The ironic thing is that the girth is still the same (hmm...).