Puck's Progress Log

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Hey guys, I'm Puck. I joined a few months ago, but just recently started on my program, and have decided to share my journey with you all (with some support from PESG-thanks dude).

I am currently 5.75 (NBP...I thought I was 6, but I think I was firmly pressing the ruler against my groin as opposed to gingerly laying it there...I wasn't bone-pressing it, but there is a 1/4 inch difference when I firmly press instead of lightly laying it across the top). I am 5.25 midshaft (with 5.5 at base and 5 right under the glans). My initial (albeit lofty) goal is 7 NBP x 5.5 MS (5.75 base). My subsequent goals, if I am able to attain this intial goal after a year or two, are 7.5 x 5.75, and then the ideal 8 x 6.

I have done four workouts thus far, with one day off in between the two, that consists of:

10-15 min warm up
quick heli shakes
150 wet jelqs (3 sec strokes)
30 sec stretches (out, up, down, left and right)
5 rotary stretches to the left and then to the right
5 min warm down (although this is all done in a hot shower)
*I Kegel 100 times per day- 50 in the morning and 50 in the afternoon-and only on workout days...I'm 2 on and 1 off

I plan on doing this for about one month, then taking about ten days off, and moving on to JP's routine (which isn't much different with the exception of adding V-jelqs and a few more stretches) for the 90 days. After that, if I'm feeling good and my gains are reasonable (I'm hoping for .10 x .025 or .05 per month), I wouldn't change anything, with the exception of throwing in a bit more jelqs and stretches that are varied, and a couple of Ulis and JAIs. I do not want to incorporate hanging devices and clamps, and if that means I will top off at 7 x 5.5 if I don't, then so be it. I just want that initial goal, and cement afterwards, if 8 x 6 necessitates all sorts of medieval devices, McGyver bullshit and what not.

So after just one week, I don't see anything different at all. My EQ is the same (pretty shitty since I lose it after ten seconds). I only notice a nicer flaccid immediately following my session (which is expected). There is some good to this, since no news can be considered good news: I have no negative PIs. But I'm hoping progress demonstrates itself.

I do have a quick question: will I not get any gains since I'm not that young (I'm 30 years old) and I don't have ED (yet, and hopefully never)? I notice that individuals who gain immensely are young in college (who probably still have some room to grow, etc.) and men with ED (and most of the gains are grow-back). I am 5'10" and around 150 lbs (but am hoping to gain back weight I lost from a nasty divorce). I smoke MJ to smooth some of that pain, but am planning to stop to help circulation, etc., and assist my exercising. So I am in relatively good health. Is this all for naught because I am not a college student or a man with ED? Thanks for your input and advice!

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I do have a quick question: will I not get any gains since I'm not that young (I'm 30 years old) and I don't have ED (yet, and hopefully never)? I notice that individuals who gain immensely are young in college (who probably still have some room to grow, etc.) and men with ED (and most of the gains are grow-back). So I am in relatively good health. Is this all for naught because I am not a college student or a man with ED?

No, and get that out of your thought process. EVERYONE can gain from doing PE, no matter the age. Being in good physical condition and health helps with gains, no doubt. So, really try on keeping your body as healthy as possible. I think the younger generation of PEers, like myself, gain because we are absolutely obsessed with our dicks. The feeling of walking around campus knowing that you have or could have a horsecock in your pants is massive motivation. On the flip side, the younger PEers are also the first to bag it when they don't see results in their first months. Patience plays a huge role in PE. This is probably why the older and more mature PEers gain. They are more patient and more consistent by nature of living longer and knowing how shit in this world works. People that suffer from ED as well - what exactly do they have to lose? Thus, they stick with their program through thick and thin.

I'm young, and I think the ultimate key to my success (if I were to narrow it down to one), was my patience and mega-consistency. My senior year in high school was ruined because some people thought it would be funny to attack the size of my dick. I had nothing to lose. So, I didn't care if it took me 5 years to gain an inch.

A gain is a gain that you didn't have before.

So, I guess my best tips for you are these:
(1) Stay motivated and consistent
(2) Stay patient and relaxed (keep PE fun)
(3) Set modest and reachable goals of no more than .10" a month

Good luck. Use this progress log well. Ask questions. I'll be sure to monitor your every step.

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PESG...you're the man. I appreciate your consideration and assistance. I won't let you down.

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PESG...you're the man. I appreciate your consideration and assistance. I won't let you down.

I know you won't...

But make sure you don't let yourself down.

Also - I didn't see this. Cut your kegels back to 50 a day.

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Had two straight routines, and am taking the day off today. Basic routine was followed, which consisted of a warmup, 150 (3 sec) wet jelqs, 30 sec stretches. I cut down my kegeling to 50 per day. I may be putting too much stress right underneath my glans when stretching, because it's yelling at me right now. It's the first time this has happened, so I might have gripped too tightly so as not to let it slip. It feels a bit "worked out," but that's expected. I haven't had a 100% erection for about a week, but that's attributed to stress, etc. I try to remain relaxed during my sessions, however.

Nothing else to report. It has been two weeks, and I measured this morning. Same shit.

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Took the day off yesterday, and did my routine this morning. Warm up for 10 min (hot shower and towel...I make sure my joint is nice and loose); 150 wet jelqs (3sec), 25 second stretches in all directions, and a couple of rotary stretches. I'm doing my kegels as I type this (nice like whoa).

Do I feel different? Well, my anxiety is a bit decreased regarding my slim jim, because I'm doing something active about it. Does it feel or look different? He's the same ole chapstick I've had...I measured a couple of days ago, and nada. It was about 10 days of PE, so I'm not expecting Jack's Beanstalk to sprout outta my pants. Also, I can only get an erection (which EQ is 6-8, so not great) when I think about my ex wife. Awesome. At any rate, I do have a question, and I hope you boys can help me on this one:

I can't get erect AT ALL when I do my wet jelqs. I use the shower to warm up, so the laptop isn't the best of friends in that situation (and even so, it wouldn't work, even if I watch Lela Star or Bree Olson at their finest). Is this bad? Will PE not work for me regarding gains since I jelq at a flaccid state? I don't want to resort to asking my ex wife to come over and get me going because "I have to to get it up to work my snausage." I'm hoping that with my regular exercise routine, new diet, and the PE that I'm doing will get me to that point.

Please help!

My stats as of now are: 5.75 x 5.25 (NBP and MS, respectively)

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There are some supplements on the market that can help with EQ. L-Lysine, L-Arginine are two of these. I don't think you have ED so I wouldn't recommend anything like Viagra or Cialis. You're just in an erectile funk right now. PE will help with this. It is best to have some sort of erection level while jelqing. Basically, the lower the erection, the better length workout you are getting because you can apply more pressure to the sides. Try a 2-second Kegel before each jelq stroke, just to ensure you have blood pumping in.

And you are not a slimjim or a chapstick. I'm going to chapstick you. 5.75" NBP is like 6.25" BP? That's way above average. 5.25" MDEG. That's WAY above average. Actually, anything 4.75" and over is big girth in my opinion. Which means in my opinion, you have a BIG girth. Be proud of it dammit!

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Thanks, PESG. I always appreciate your proverbial kicks in the ass. It's just hard to see anything realistically when a woman breaks your heart.

At least there's some positive benefit from flaccid jelqing, so I don't think that it's been a waste of time doing it. But I'd like some more girth (along with a bit of length), so I'd like to get a bit erect when I jelq. I don't want to be Mandingo, but 7 (NBP) x 5.5 (MS) would be sweetness.

I'm taking Mega Men Sport multi-vitamins, which has a boatload of stuff in it, but most importantly it has lots of Zinc and a bit of L-Arginine. Is that OK?

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I'm taking Mega Men Sport multi-vitamins, which has a boatload of stuff in it, but most importantly it has lots of Zinc and a bit of L-Arginine. Is that OK?

Um...depends. Maybe you should pick up some L-Lysine as well. You should be taking a minimum of 500mg of each L-Arg and L-Lys

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It's been about a week or so since I last posted, but I've been Peing with diligence and dedication. It has been three weeks thus far, and so far, so good. Meaning, I don't have any negative PIs, and I hope I never do. I haven't measured my EL or EG yet, but I will at the end of my fourth week. My routine is a beginner's routine, as assisted by PESG: 30 sec stretches in all directions, 150 3 sec wet jelqs, and 5 rotary stretches to left and then right. I kegel 50 times per workout day. This is a 2 on 1 off. I plan to move on to JonPop's beginner routine after this, and then see where I go from there. But I like my slow and steady pace. I like my dick enough to nurture him, not punish him.

I do have something to share with you guys, however:

1) When I jelq, I do lose my erection. I've posted this concern last time. So I've attempted to remedy this dilemma by stopping the routine for a moment, and (pardon my disclosure of such intimate details) slowly jerking it back up to 50%, and starting again. I have realized that it is MUCH better to jelq at that EQ. WOW, what a difference. I hope I'm able to maintain that erection for longer than a few strokes as my routine progresses. It's just that I don't find it very sexually enticing staring at my jelqed cock and exercising it. I see that others have the opposite problem...My question is: Have I wasted time jelqing at a lower EQ or flaccid? Are there ANY benefits from jelqing flaccid or at a lower EQ (maybe length gains, which for me, is great, since I'm not that disappointed at my 5.25 MSEG...although I want a bit more as well)? And is it detrimental to my progressive routine if I stop jelqing to jerk it a bit back up, and then proceed with the routine?

2) I would just like to know if I'm stretching appropriately...I'm uncircumcised, and when I overhand OK grip my penis to stretch, it starts to slide up just a bit right under the glans, but it never goes past the glans. I haven't lost any sensitivity or felt pain at my glans, but I don't grip my glans...it just stops right under it. I can't use baby powder because I have to do my PE in the hot shower. Any thoughts, gentlemen?

Current: 5.75 NBPEL x 5.25 MSEG

Initial Goal: 7 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG

Final Goal: 7.25 NBPEL x 5.75 MSEG