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Hello peg.. I mean.. biohacker!
This is my progress log. I started PE at the beginning of 12/2021 and my routine goes something like this:
It varies.. 1 day on 1 day off, or 2 days on, 1 day off. Sometimes 1 on 2 off or 3 on 1 off.
Update 1/8/22: I will stick to a 2 day on, 1 day off regime because it feels like optimal work to rest ratio. Plus, it says so in JP90's routine. Thanks JonPop !
I do it before the shower.
Summary 1/6/22: (updated 1/10/22)
~2-3 min warmup
~200 jelqs
~about 5-10 kegels and reverse kegels ~shower for warmdown
~2-3 min stretch
~20-30 minute bed fowfers
Update 1/10/22: I found some interesting stuff which I felt could work before I found them.
| 5 minutes | Warm Up |
| 5 minutes | Penis Stretches |
| 10 minutes | Basic Jelq |
| 5 minutes | Warm Down |
One more thing from the same page: One other great exercise I "invented" during my fourth month was the "jelqstretch combo." I do a two to three second slow jelq and finish it off by grabbing my glans and pulling very hard straight out and then downwards for a total count of about five seconds.
That means I will add stretches before jelqing and I will perform mentioned "jelqstretches".
Update 1/14/22: I will not do "jelqstretches" for now, I'll make it regular jelqs only for the first three months.
Summary 1/10/22:
~2-3 min warmup
~2-3 min stretching
~200 jelqs**
~about 5-10 kegels and reverse kegels ~shower for warmdown
~20-30 minute bed fowfers
** I don't count the reps and here is why:
"I quit counting the reps early on, because it was boring and I lost my focus."
Quote by @Going411x7
2-3 minutes of flowing warm water while slightly stroking my cock and getting it erect. Then I sit on a towell placed on a closed toilet seat because I don't have a bathtub.
Then I use shampoo as a lube and start jelqing at 40-50% erection using both hands.
Be careful, some (if not many) shampoos can irritate urethral opening. Update 1/5/22: shampoo isn't good for long term PE, better use vaseline, coconut oil or shea butter, thanks @FeelHappy !
I do maybe 150-200 jelqs with 1 jelq lasting 0.75-1 seconds, 1 jelq = 1 hand movement. Update 1/6/22: when I get relaxed enough and "in the zone" my jelq can last 1.5-2 seconds so maybe I will go that way.
Jelqing 101
Update 1/6/22: I realised that slower and relaxed jelqs aren't so bad. 3-4 seconds seems a bit too long (for now) so I will go somewhere in the middle of 1.5-2 seconds per jelq. Thanks FeelHappy !
In between those jelqs I do about 5, maximum 10 squeezes lasting about 7 seconds. Update 1/6/22: I will stop doing squeezes for now because I think I read somewhere that they are advanced exercise (gotta dig deeper into topic). So focusing on jelqs and kegels only to have a better baseline for assessing possible gains.
In between those jelqs I do couple of kegels and reverse kegels. Also if my erection goes to 70-80% I do some jelqs too, but not too much.
Update 1/5/22: "Jelq with an erection level between 40 and 70%. Do not grip too tight, just enough to feel blood moving up the shaft . When stretching, grab your shaft about one inch below the glans and do not pull too hard, just enough to feel a slight stretch. Let your PIs be your guide as to how hard to do your exercise." Thanks not2big !
Update 1/15/22: "Stretch in all directions. Do not kegel when stretching that's stupid. Kegeling retracts your penis during a stretch why would you want to only stretch somewhat. Kegel before stretching to exhaust the PC muscle and then while stretching keep it relaxed or doing RKs to stretch past it. Point of stretching is to STRETCH." Quote by sidneycrosby , thank you!
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When I feel I am done (around 15 minutes), I start to edge.
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I edge for 5-15 minutes and then take a shower for a warm down.
Update 1/13/22:
Interesting info I found here:
- Cold Erection Only – Always begin your masturbation session with no erection, and only become erect through manual stimulation only – no visual or thought stimulation. (I suppose no porn etc.)
- Don’t Cum for the Sake of Cumming – It’s OK to masturbate and not orgasm. If you can, wait until the next day to ejaculate, and you’ll have a lot more energy.
To begin, simply start by stimulating yourself manually, or if you are using a partner this can be performed during intercourse or some other form of stimulation. An important note – if you are using a partner, you must remain in full control while doing this exercise. If your partner begins to move or tighten themselves up in any way, it will interfere with your concentration.
- Proceed until the point right before you ejaculate, THEN STOP!
- Rest a bit until you feel you are starting to lose your erection OR the “Point Of No Return” feeling of ejaculation.
- Proceed to the start and stop point two more times.
- AFTER the third time, you may ejaculate if you wish. It’s highly recommended that you do ejaculate after doing this exercise, since NOT doing so over time may actually cause negative conditioning.
Update 1/16/22: "Hey sup guys im new here ive been suffering from hf (hard flaccid) for years im21 years old and i came across something tonight while watching porn. I think porn can damage us but as you all read a million times the answer for most with hf is the pelvic floor. If you have anterior pelvic tilt thats most likely the problem. I tried masterbating while doing a pelvic tilt and it worked. I could go as long as i wanted and my john was bigger than normal. I know most of you are shying away from wacking off but try it next time u do see if it helps. They say we need to strengthen or glutes core and hamstrings. Hope my advice helps someone". Quote by marco polo found here at post #236.
Sometimes I will not edge after PE.
Before bed I do bed fowfers for about 20 minutes and I stretch in the direction of my face 2-3 times lasting 30-60 seconds. Total about 2-3 min stretching.
I think I urinate too frequently and I must use a bit too much force to defecate. I attribute it to me being a nervous person, possibly screwed up pelvic floor and the meds I am taking to recover from psychosis. I have been recovering from psychosis for 1 year and 7 months.
I also had problems with erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation and here is what I found:
"1 - Parasympathetic Nervous System - triggers Erection
2 - Sympathetic Nervous System - triggers Ejaculation. And also inhibits Erection. That is why, when we are stressed and anxious ( + Sympathetic, - Parasympathetic), we have Erectile Dysfunction and Premature Ejaculation."
Thanks for this Romero MD !
Update 1/14/22: About performance anxiety: More On The Mental Side Of Male Enhancement. (Short explanation?)
The Detraining Effect Part 3: Reversing Negative Habits
A “Stamina Only” male enhancement routine is one where the main emphasis is to develop higher “EQ”- as opposed to enlargement. That being said, raising EQ can also lead to enlargement by reversing the effects of detraining.
For successful implementation of the routine, it’s extremely important that you perform these exercises under as pleasant conditions as possible. This is especially important for the “Stop and Start” exercise! If you unable to do a certain number of reps or can’t get to the time goal you set for yourself, don’t let it stress you out. Focus on the sensations of the exercise and use MENTAL visualizations to help you.
The recommended “Stamina Only” routine is to be done in one sitting and in the following order:
- Warm up
- Kegels (You should try to move up to 50 holds for 5 second each. . . but remember to start off slowly! ;
- For every kegel do a reverse kegel ;
- Perform only enough repetitions to mildly challenge yourself in the beginning. This is NOT an area you want sore from fatigue! Also, when you contract for the kegel, use just enough force necessary to accomplish the repetition.)
- Stop and Starts (Edging)
- Proceed until the point right before you ejaculate, THEN STOP!
- Rest a bit until you feel you are starting to lose your erection OR the “Point Of No Return” feeling of ejaculation.
- Proceed to the start and stop point two more times.
- AFTER the third time, you may ejaculate if you wish. It’s highly recommended that you do ejaculate after doing this exercise, since NOT doing so over time may actually cause negative conditioning.
- You’re building up endurance with this exercise. As time goes by, your first sensation of ejaculation should take longer to achieve.
- Warm down
The above routine can be done 3 to 4 times a week. You should use “Day 1” to establish a rep baseline. You’ll do only as many reps to comfortably challenge yourself on that day. From there, you should try to increase your reps in small increments each subsequent training session. Your intensity should also be increased slowly but frequently.
NOTE – It’s important to try to practice this exercise at least 3 times a week, if you are having problems with premature ejaculation.
If you have followed the instructions and are able to accomplish these goals without the use of porn, once you reach the upper limits of reps/times outlined for the exercises above, you should develop much greater EQ, control, and positive mental/emotional conditioning.
My approach to a routine is to try to feel what works for me. Listen to my body. Update 1/6/22: also start a log and listen what others are telling you. FeelHappy you da man!
I will give it a go for 3 months and if that fails I will try JP90 or PESG's routine. Let's say that I started PE on 1/1/22 as a reference point.
I will not make too many posts but rather edit them.
I will measure "not too often". (Lets say every 3 months)
My measurements are:
01/2022
BPEL 6.3" x 5.9"
BPFL 4.0" x 4.5"
EQ: 3-4/10 with ocassional 7-8 spikes
Update 1/5/22: I will use two decimal points for measurements to avoid false results in the future. Therefore:
01/2022
BPEL 6.29" x 5.87"
BPFL 3.98" x 4.53"
volume = 254 cm3 (according to Visualiser)
My primary goal is to recover from psychosis. (Yes, I am aware PE is not a substitute for mental hygiene but right now I am ready to do PE).
Update 1/5/22: "you must understand the following: the very emotions you're feeling is what's going to cause attempts at natural male enhancement to be difficult. The penis doesn't respond well to negative emotions, and attempting to force yourself through training will make things worse."
"The irony of male enhancement training is, the more anxious you are, the harder it is for you to make progress. This is especially the case when the anxiety is so bad that ED results."
Quote by Big Al , thank you.
That means if I don't feel like edging, I won't force it. Same goes for PE session itself but at the same time if I get lazy and don't do PE, something is wrong. Same goes for this: If I feel the urge to jelq 500 instead of the usual 200 times because I am excited and it makes me happy, I'll go for it. But also listen to my body.
My secondary goals are to become a shower and add some length. Maybe a girth too.
Gotta dig deeper into TGC Theory.
Good luck myself!
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1/7/22: Had a headache, felt tired and had hiccups but still wanted to PE. I did jelqs, felt good, hiccups and headache gone (also I popped two pills). Then I again forcefully edged with EQ of 4-5 just to push myself into good libido. I repeated my old mistake. I guess that's why people do things they later regret about such as drinking, drugs, etc: to forcefully feel better instead of letting time do the trick. Time heals all the wounds. Or so I've been told. I will let time heal the wounds but also do PE as much as I can.
1/8/22: Felt better than yesterday. Measured warming up time. Struggled a few times to have good EQ for jelqs but eventually I did it. I had a decent amount of good jelqs and I occasionally kegeled and reverse kegeled when I brought myself to higher EQ.
Interesting fact: after jelqing for awhile I felt that my glans is kinda exhausted,as if it got tired and pumped with enough blood (positively). I figured, this is a good physical indicator and it was enough exercising for today!
I didn't forcefully edge, my cock was hanging nice and it was thick after a workout and I was happy. Then I took a shower and now I am doing bed fowfers and after that I will stretch and go to sleep. Goodnight!
1/9/22: Day off, cycling for 1.5 hours and my pelvic floor felt sore shortly after I stopped. I think I will pause with cycling until the summer comes and it gets convenient to get to the sea with it. In those days I will ride 2x30-45 mins so I don't think I will get pelvic soreness, we will see.
Right now it feels like that bike seat is squishing my plevic floor. I find bigger pleasure in taking a walk rather than riding a bike.
1/10-1/13/22: I think I got a covid so no PE these days. I had headaches prior to these days and during these days, accompanied by fever, coughing, weakness, nausea... Today is thursday and I feel much better and tomorrow I will get test result. I did some PE tonight 1/13 but struggled to maintain erection. Probably wasn't the good time and I also drank some coffee before session. It was my third cup today but I gotta mention that 1 cup = 1/2 coffee + 1/2 milk.
1/14/22: Tested positive for covid but the majority of symptoms were present on Monday and Tuesday. Now (Friday) I am only coughing a little.
I tried to do a PE session today but it failed. My EQ was 1-2/10. I tried some stamina training with kegels and later on edging and I somewhat got 6-7/10 EQ. I tried jelqing but EQ wasn't lasting enough.
I got cold sore (herpes) yesterday and I am treating it with cream. When I was jelqing I spit on my cock to lubricate it and immediately went into freak mode because I thought that I transferred herpes to my penis. I googled up but still couldn't figure out the answer.
1/15/22: Day off. This is a motivation for today's post, a quote by Big Al : "The irony of male enhancement training is, the more anxious you are, the harder it is for you to make progress. This is especially the case when the anxiety is so bad that ED results."
I am very anxious these days. I am recovering from psychosis and covid, trying to sort out depression, sex seems like a very distant and probably unlikely future, I barely get erection, low libido, without nasal spray my nose would be stuffy 24/7... At least I decided to cut back porn as I think it fueled my anxiety and performance anxiety.
Although it is a day off, I will do some kegels and reverse kegels, stretches, bed fowfers, maybe try to massage my BC muscle as I feel it is tensed when I massage it. The goal is to release anxiety and relax. No warming up/down, no jelqing, just "playing" with my pelvic floor and cock.
1/16/22: I had some erection while lying in bed so I thought what the hell, let's PE. I also had a diarrhea, probably because of covid but that didn't stop me. However, it affected my routine. I believe when you have a diarrhea your pelvic floor is tensed so that got in the way.
After warming up and stretching I went jelqing but struggled to maintain optimal erection. I went in a loop of having/no having erection and using every possible moment to jelq.
After I saw that I am struggling, I started edging. I edged for probably 5-6 minutes. I had to rely on porn fantasy to keep it up but finished with "normal fantasy". Note from here (Special attention should be paid to the visualization portion of the routine. This is NOT a reference to sexual fantasizing, but to projecting the type of emotions you wish to have during actual sexual encounters.
You’ll want to project a feeling of utmost confidence and being completely unencumbered. That way, you can focus on all of the sensations of the exercise. By doing this, when you feel ready to partake in live sexual encounters your emotions will be “trained”, and the stimulus of a live environment will help you enjoy the experience even more.).
While finishing I was specifically looking at my cock and I saw a few spurts of cum accompanied with dribbles whereas before it would usually only dribble. I guess the kegels paid off.
I think I forced today's PE due to diarrhea which simply screws up the pelvic floor and turtles my cock but it paid off to see those cum spurts.
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