The Roc's Log

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

Current Routine:

- 20 Minute warm up

- 50 overhand 'OK' jelqs (40-60%) (Pulling down)
- 50 underhand 'OK' jelqs (40-60%) (Pulling up)
- 50 overhand 'OK' jelqs (70-90%)
- 50 underhand 'OK' jelqs (70-90%)
* 2 min breaks in between each set while massaging penis*

10 Minute cool down

- 3x Stretches (5 directions) held for 25 quick kegels
- 25 Helicopter shakes in between each set

*3 days on, 2 days off*


Starting length: 5.3" x 4.3"

Time Doing PE = 1 month


I'll be taking measurements every month.

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

1 month into the routine and sadly I have no gains to report

Only thing I will say is my erections are a bit harder, but that was the last thing I wanted to improved.

What do make of my routine? Should I change anything?


I'm disappointed but I'm still going to stick at it. If I don't make any any gains by next month that's when I'll start to get worried.

[Jiminy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jiminy]

Hey man I wouldn't get too worried some take longer than others to gain, I would definitely stick with it. Have you tried between the cheek (BTC) stretches, good for some quick lig gains.

[kingpole Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close kingpole]

1 month into the routine and sadly I have no gains to report

Only thing I will say is my erections are a bit harder, but that was the last thing I wanted to improved.

What do make of my routine? Should I change anything?


I'm disappointed but I'm still going to stick at it. If I don't make any any gains by next month that's when I'll start to get worried.

Improved EQ is what you want, gains are really improved EQ. Your doing fine give a few more months before you give up.

[epsilon Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close epsilon]

Improve EQ are gains, Hi how are you doing your stretches? How long? Do i Understand them right, your doing stretches after your cool down, as far as I know (IMHO) cool down should be last.. Try JAI stretch seems its working to other... Just like a muscle (kick back theory) that might help you..


That's the spirit mate, we all going to grow .. Good luck

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

Improve EQ are gains, Hi how are you doing your stretches? How long? Do i Understand them right, your doing stretches after your cool down, as far as I know (IMHO) cool down should be last.. Try JAI stretch seems its working to other... Just like a muscle (kick back theory) that might help you..


That's the spirit mate, we all going to grow .. Good luck

Yeah I cool down straight after jelqs. I figured jelqs are quite serious, in terms of putting stress on the tissues, so I like to get heat to my penis asap after doing jelqs. Also if I cool down after jelqs, it acts as another warm up for my stretches.

Could someone tell me how I do a JAI stretch?

Thanks, I'm definatley going to keep at it.

[epsilon Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close epsilon]

Here are the disscusion in cool down, important learning I impact my routine was from Iguana https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...ol-down-5.html

I think the goal here is to "solidify" the collagen. Heating collagen puts it in a more pliable soft state which is easier to stretch. So the process is too elevate the penis core temp as much as possible without burning, stretch, and then hold the stretch and cool back down. Colder should be better in that the colder the collagen is the less likely it is to return to the previous resting state. That is why ice and cold packs are recommended. The ice and cool packs help accelerate the process.

When you stretch again the Collagen the SOLIDIFY would heat up again and neutralize the cool down process you we have adopted. Stretching after jelq was advise by other Mode, can't locate where.. sorry..


Here are the JAI Penis Enlargement Gym - JAI Stretch

Hope this would help

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

Here are the disscusion in cool down, important learning I impact my routine was from Iguana https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...ol-down-5.html



When you stretch again the Collagen the SOLIDIFY would heat up again and neutralize the cool down process you we have adopted. Stretching after jelq was advise by other Mode, can't locate where.. sorry..


Here are the JAI Penis Enlargement Gym - JAI Stretch

Hope this would help

So does a cold towel, cool down work better? And I'll do my cool down after stretches.

Thanks for your help.

[epsilon Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close epsilon]

Hi buddy,

IMHO the cool down should be perform as the final leg of the exercise, right know I'm doing it 2-3 minutes, stretch your penis while doing it. I thought your incorporating cool down in the middle of your routine which for me might be wrong. Since the collagen in the penis will just loss its solid form once you perform another PE. IF ever I'm going to do you routine, this is how I'll do it.

Current Routine:

- 20 Minute warm up
THE JELQ (3-4second each stroke)
- 50 overhand 'OK' jelqs (40-60%) (Pulling down)
- 50 underhand 'OK' jelqs (40-60%) (Pulling up)
- 50 overhand 'OK' jelqs (70-90%)
- 50 underhand 'OK' jelqs (70-90%)
* 2 min breaks in between each set while massaging penis*

- 3x Stretches (5 directions) held for 25 quick kegels
- 25 Helicopter shakes in between each set

3 Minute cool down (Stretch while applying cold cloth not the head just the shaft)

*3 days on, 2 days off*

I just have brought down your cooling down at the end of the PE. If you like you can put the remaining 7minutes as a rewarm prior to stretching.


Hope this help..Other veterans might have a better Idea..

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

Sweet. Thanks a lot Epsilon.

Just had my 2 days off, so starting up again tonight

[epsilon Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close epsilon]

Your welcome roc248, hope this makes a difference if ever you'll apply my suggestion, lets cross oiur finger on that. Good luck.

[Larger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Larger]

Current Routine:

- 20 Minute warm up

- 50 overhand 'OK' jelqs (40-60%) (Pulling down)
- 50 underhand 'OK' jelqs (40-60%) (Pulling up)
- 50 overhand 'OK' jelqs (70-90%)
- 50 underhand 'OK' jelqs (70-90%)
* 2 min breaks in between each set while massaging penis*

10 Minute cool down

- 3x Stretches (5 directions) held for 25 quick kegels
- 25 Helicopter shakes in between each set

*3 days on, 2 days off*


Starting length: 5.3" x 4.3"

Time Doing PE = 1 month


I'll be taking measurements every month.

The_Roc248,

When I do not see any results especially a PI, I try something else. Although harder erections is improvement it's not what you're going for. You joined in Mar of this year, so you're still fairly new. I'd go with a routine that veterans like JP or KP have worked hard to set up.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...y-routine.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...od-mentor.html

I would warm up with a sock, stretch (including the shakes) and then continue with the workout (jelqs). Afterward cool down with a cold towl, shower, or whatever you deem fit. Since that hasn't worked for a month try 1 day on, 1 day off. That's what I do and I've gained half an inch in length and an inch in girth.

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

The_Roc248,

When I do not see any results especially a PI, I try something else. Although harder erections is improvement it's not what you're going for. You joined in Mar of this year, so you're still fairly new. I'd go with a routine that veterans like JP or KP have worked hard to set up.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...y-routine.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...od-mentor.html

I would warm up with a sock, stretch (including the shakes) and then continue with the workout (jelqs). Afterward cool down with a cold towl, shower, or whatever you deem fit. Since that hasn't worked for a month try 1 day on, 1 day off. That's what I do and I've gained half an inch in length and an inch in girth.

I'm going to give it another month before I change my routine. I guess my penis is now conditioned to my current routine, so I'd like to give it a bit more time.

I going to stay patience, it could just be I'm slow grower/starter. Like I said if I have no gains after 2 months, then I'll definitely change what I'm doing. Thanks for the advice though Larger.


I also started using a cold towel and I must say it's give you a different feeling after a session, it makes it seem more complete and satisfied. Hopefully this should have an effect.

[Larger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Larger]

Your penis is getting conditioned, not to any particular routine, but for more advanced exercises over time. The reason why we stay with a routine is because it's resulting in something we want. I'm getting both length and girth with my current routine, which is why I'm sticking with it. If you want to wait for another month then stick with it, bud, you should see gains of some kind.

[The_Roc248 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The_Roc248]

I decided to measure today, as I felt bigger, but some how I've lost in length by 0.2"

Could this be down to over training?

After seeing the 'V-jelq' video, I've decided I'm going to include these into my routine. I'm currently doing 200 jelqs, would it be best to drop down to 150? (50 v jelqs, 50 overhand ok, 50 underhand ok)

Also I think I'm going to change the 3 on, 2 off I'm doing. What would you recommend?

Thanks.