SWOL routine

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Mon/Wed/Fri 10 minutes of 30s tunica tugs, 15 minutes of 1 minute Ulis, and 100 STS stretches whenever I visit the bathroom, maybe 4-5 times a day. I'm wondering though, if the STS is a bit too much and taking away from recovery, but PIs are perfect. I'll stick to this for a while and monitor the results. It might very well be just the tunica tugs and Ulis would suffice and the rest of the time should be devoted to recovery. This would actually resemble the "penis yoga" routine in another thread, which I'm following with interest (if some scepticism).

MMO training has taken a leap forward now that I understand the contribution of PC and BC better. I still lose it if I go over the PONR carelessly, but hitting the PC brakes hard (not just the BC!) at arousal level of 9.5/10 I can go past the PONR without losing a drop. Concentrating hard is most likely taking a toll on the quality of the orgasm so the headrush (the fireworks etc. , you know) is not quite there like when you just crash over the top, but everything else is just as described: No cum (just clear precum), no dip in EQ, can keep on stimulating through PONR, but the urge to cum passes yet the arousal level stays at 8-9 until the next wave comes over.

So it definitely seems the key to DO/MMO success is a PC kegel or a full PC/BC kegel, not just the frontal BC kegel like I used to think.

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Mon/Wed/Fri 10 minutes of 30s tunica tugs and 15 minutes of 30-second Ulis to see if there's a difference in red spots/discoloration vs 1-minute Ulis. Doesn't seem to be, so I'm going back to 1-minute Ulis just because it's easier when I have to readjust my grip only once a minute versus twice.

I let the STS stretches go and now it feels I'm getting good recovery in between sessions. This is as good a routine as any, for now.

Measured, even though I knew by the looks that there's not much change if any. Only thing is that my flaccid girth has improved and EG seemed to be as well. BPFSL still hovers around the 7" mark, MSEG I maxed out at 5.6" .

On Friday, had a complete DO by myself without one drop of leakage, with the heart-beating, headrush and everything! Banged the wife silly that night as well. The first orgasm still comes quicker than I'd like so I fit the definition of pre-E. Luckily I can continue up to 2nd and 3rd rounds, but it'd be nicer to have total control. With the new focus on PC training without overemphasizing BC muscle, it looks like I'm progressing again towards total DO/MMO control.

I'm a couple of days into prescription-free medicine to improve my serotonin levels. I'm having tryptophan, and once the results are conclusive, I've got St John's waiting. I'm not going all in with both added serotonin as well as an uptake inhibitor, that's just asking for trouble. So I'll be trying them out one at a time to see the difference, if any.

I guess next I'll be picking up yoga & meditation, maybe that's not a bad thing either, regardless, pre-E or not.

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Nice log! I found what you have to say about DO particularly interesting.

E.

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Thanks. To add regarding DO/MMO training:

I don't know if it's already the tryptophan working, or my newfound knowledge about the use of PC/BC at PONR, or my wife giving me a perineum massage, but I have managed five proper DOs this week so far in two separate sessions. Both happened when edging alone, during the first session I had three DOs and during the second session I had two. Both times I just stopped after that and let the erection subside. There was no dip in EQ, no cum, just a slight dip in arousal from 10/10 to a manageable 8-8.5/10 before the next peak.

There's definitely something that has changed drastically. Before (while edging) I could only manage 3-7 minutes before I was forced to slow down pace of stimulation, stop completely or attempt a DO (with less than ideal level of success), but now I could continue at a steady pace for 10 and 13 minutes on the two separate sessions, before I had my first real irresistible urge to cum. During the DO I had no feeling of losing control, rather I could surprisingly easily clench the PC all the way past PONR.

Ok so this is just edging by myself, but the difference in just edging is already so radical, I have no doubt I'm onto something here. For complete control over pre-E, MMO capability is of course golden, but I'm beginning to think that a solid baseline of proper serotonin levels might be simply mandatory! I've been banging my head against the wall for a year now without progress and now within a week it suddenly starts to come together like Keesling & Chia describe in their books. That surely can't be a coincidence.

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Last week Mon/Wed/Fri 10 min of 30s tunica tugs, 15 minutes of 1 minute Ulis.

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Last week normal routine plus some experiments with clamping but so far I like Ulis better as far as expansion goes.

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Normal week, then a week off just to give it some rest.

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Last week mixed things up a bit and ended up jelqing for 15 minutes followed by 5 1 minute - Ulis, repeated Mon-Tue-Thu-Fri.

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Just jelqing last week, 20 minutes a go 2 on 1 off. Expansion is good as are PIs.

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100 minutes of jelqing last week, +PIs.

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100 minutes of jelqing + 5 minutes Uli last week.

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Once again, 100 minutes of jelqing last week.

I've been happy doing this simple routine for now, mostly because I still can't make up my mind if I'm over- or undertraining. I'm a hard gainer for sure, my PIs are always pretty good to excellent, but I really can't tell whether I should commit to the "gently coax it into growing" or "violently overcome the tunica" approach. I'm currently somewhere in the middle, not a feather touch, but far from as harsh as I could go (and have previously gone).

I just can't see how a light touch similar to masturbation would result in growth (there should be many more non-PE-guys reporting unexpected growth if this was the case), my common sense says I have to slightly exceed the limit of my tunica, but then the overcompensation theory says I'm just making the tunica tougher, so experimenting with increased intensity might just be counterproductive.

I'm not really worrying much over it as I'm definitely well equipped to keep my wife happy, but of course some prize for my efforts would seem fair.

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100 minutes of jelqing.

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Took a week off.

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Last week 75 minutes of jelqing with considerably increased intensity. Temporary swelling makes MEG 6"+ , but it's hard to judge the permanent impact on tunica.