I lost length and girth thanks to PE

[Revolved Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Revolved]

Probly an eq issue. If you measured correctly i dont know what else it could be. Try doing girth work, and if your conditioned look into clamping, squeezes, ulis, etc. no one is here to scam anyone; your hands are free. Id obviously quit extending and whatever else you were doing. Check out the TGC theory as it may help you gain your size back.

Side note: this forum is probably one the most helpful out there, as far as the community itself goes. Itd be hard for me to maintain a positive attitude if this happened to me as well, but its no one elses' fault. Take responsibility.

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

Indeed I did, you were talking about measuring girth, my apologies.

In another PM you said that you had surgery "down there," what type of surgery did you have?

This isn't a scam, PE works for the majority of men. Nobody forced you to buy an extender, nobody forced you to do PE, you really have nobody to blame.

Right - so can I get my rep back please?
I did - and that was the month 1 took off. I spoke to Big Al after it - I should still have gained.
Agreed no one forced me to buy anything - but it doesnt stop me from feeling scammed over.
I neg repped because I felt the rep was unreasonable. He was insulting my knowledge/commitment to this and I did measure correctly and answered his questions before calling him names.

[faithandhope Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close faithandhope]

Cusp is a moron. Ignore him.
So long as you measure the same way - shouldnt matter so much.

Your a moron for being so ignorant, I WAS gunna post on here a few minutes ago to try and write something positive but I think a simple "Go cry" will suffice.

[Jakebfs Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jakebfs]

Charles, people aren't trying to get you banned. I think one person mentioned that, because you are causing a big scene and saying this is all a scam, but I'm sure this won't come to that, and it wasn't a moderator who even mentioned it.

The fact is that we can't explain your losses, as has been mentioned there have almost never, ever been reports that there were losses. Hence, we focus on the possible reasons that could cause such a thing, PIs, technique, overtraining, and measurement errors.

Have you developed any upward/downward/sidewards curves?
Have you seen similar losses in flaccid size?
How has your libido been over the last year (consistent, high/low etc)
If you do a PE session and then measure directly after, what is your size?

When you measured in the start, what time did you measure in comparison to your PE sessions? measuring after a session can cause bigger measurements than are actually accurate.

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

Charles-Perry, you've made a lot of comments in the past about being unsure on how to measure.

It's kind of like me talking about cars and saying i don't know how to drive, I'm not sure where the breaks are, and then a couple of months later I get into an accident and blame it on the car or the car manufacturer for the accident.

Just take a second, sit back and think - what is the honest possibility that maybe you recorded incorrect measurements a year ago and now you're comparing your good measurements to the poor quality ones from back then?

Ok for the last time.
Yes I measured from hair to tip initially.
Then when I learnt that that was wrong I measure BPEL. I took 5 measurements - 1 each day - to ensure accuracy.
At this time I had experienced no change in my penis size (length or girth).
After several months (this week and last week) I re-measured CORRECTLY and my stats have decreased since the BPEL measurement. AND the hair-tip measurement. The 1/2 inch length lost is for the BPEL decrease.
Make sense or shall I post even more details?

[MovingUp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MovingUp]

you claimed pe is a scam .. how could it be a scam when it works

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

Your a moron for being so ignorant, I WAS gunna post on here a few minutes ago to try and write something positive but I think a simple "Go cry" will suffice.

Please read the post above.

[Toadstool Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toadstool]

Charles-Perry, you've made a lot of comments in the past about being unsure on how to measure.

It's kind of like me talking about cars and saying i don't know how to drive, I'm not sure where the breaks are, and then a couple of months later I get into an accident and blame it on the car or the car manufacturer for the accident.

Just take a second, sit back and think - what is the honest possibility that maybe you recorded incorrect measurements a year ago and now you're comparing your good measurements to the poor quality ones from back then?

I'm not calling you a liar and I certainly don't think you're less intelligent. Mistakes happen. Read my log, i talk about all the fuck ups I do, especially in measuring.

The thing is that losing size is SO rare, that it's a VERY GOOD possibility you have no lost size. Look at it from my perspective - we get about 70,000+ hits monthly. Out of all of those members, I have only ever heard of 1 person losing size in the last 4 years.
That's pretty significant. What we're all trying to say is that, while there is the true and honest possibility you have lost size, the likelihood is so small that we're going to only think of it as a definite last resort.
Does that make sense?

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

I'm not calling you a liar and I certainly don't think you're less intelligent. Mistakes happen. Read my log, i talk about all the fuck ups I do, especially in measuring.

The thing is that losing size is SO rare, that it's a VERY GOOD possibility you have no lost size. Look at it from my perspective - we get about 70,000+ hits monthly. Out of all of those members, I have only ever heard of 1 person losing size in the last 4 years.
That's pretty significant. What we're all trying to say is that, while there is the true and honest possibility you have lost size, the likelihood is so small that we're going to only think of it as a definite last resort.
Does that make sense?

Yes, so.... what now?

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

Charles, people aren't trying to get you banned. I think one person mentioned that, because you are causing a big scene and saying this is all a scam, but I'm sure this won't come to that, and it wasn't a moderator who even mentioned it.

The fact is that we can't explain your losses, as has been mentioned there have almost never, ever been reports that there were losses. Hence, we focus on the possible reasons that could cause such a thing, PIs, technique, overtraining, and measurement errors.

Have you developed any upward/downward/sidewards curves?
Have you seen similar losses in flaccid size?
How has your libido been over the last year (consistent, high/low etc)
If you do a PE session and then measure directly after, what is your size?

When you measured in the start, what time did you measure in comparison to your PE sessions? measuring after a session can cause bigger measurements than are actually accurate.

No curves. I never had that problem.
Flaccid size is the same as before. Erect length/BPEL is smaller.
Libido is consistent imo.
If I measure directly after its still the measurements I get once I get erect with porn etc.
I have always measured over a 5 day period at 10p in the night (my 'hornist time') and then do a session. I did measure once after a session just to check - made no difference.

[faithandhope Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close faithandhope]

I would like for you to be able to stay here with us, learn, grow, and be a member of our society here But you can't be with that negative attitude. You need to relax and put everything else behind you. There is ALMOST no chance that you actually lost size, although I suppose it is possible, just extremely unlikely, especially considering your measuring history. Start a new routine today. Take new measurements. Make a new log. Ask questions. Have FAITH, and maybe take a couple shots and chill out before you blow a head gasket

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

Take responsibility.

How exactly do I do this when I have followed every piece of advice to the letter?
I have given it 100% daily and was VERY patient. Just under 12 months worth of PE and negative gains. WTF.

[charles-perry Banned Find all posts View Profile Close charles-perry]

I would like for you to be able to stay here with us, learn, grow, and be a member of our society here But you can't be with that negative attitude. You need to relax and put everything else behind you. There is ALMOST no chance that you actually lost size, although I suppose it is possible, just extremely unlikely, especially considering your measuring history. Start a new routine today. Take new measurements. Make a new log. Ask questions. Have FAITH, and maybe take a couple shots and chill out before you blow a head gasket

Ok but what am I supposed to do now? I have given every method (excluding hanging) 100% and don't know where to begin anymore.
I don't want to spend another 12 months trying and loose another 1/2 inch. I'm upset enough as it is

[eow. Member of the Month April 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close eow.]

charles-perry is a troll. Just ignore him. This is what he posted on Bib's forum:

lol
you want me to pay $100 for something thats incomplete. thats a scam. anyone knows it.
how am i supposed to get weights... thats an extra cost. so why not just buy the equipment myself in the first place?
also you dont seem to have any idea if it works, no idea if it will help. all signs of a big scam to me.
it reads: just pay me (and btw i don't accept paypal which is the biggest dodgy thing ever) and hopefully it will work.
you would NEVER pay anyone for anything like that. would you?

your a joke

'little mistake i do accept paypal'. sure. thats not even on your dodgy looking website.

and your level of cheek too - i missed the memo - clearly you are not living on Earth or something.

its not about believing PE works or not. when i asked simple questions you started quivering. seems dodgy and a scam.

im mean? go run to your mummy then lol.

yes please dont make anything for me and scam someone else you scammer.

[Toadstool Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toadstool]

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