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Thanks for the kind words Hemmels. I appreciate you dropping in from time to time. You should definitely give some attention to the TGC Theory. I think the concepts are fascinating and I truly and 100% believe that TGC is going to change my PE direction from rather stagnant to completely successful.
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A great P.I. morning. I had the typical wood. And such a nice long stretched-out flaccid too. I'm sure that's a sign of a good stretching session from the previous day. I'm just about to hop in the shower to do my AM stretching. I will admit, I have had bouts of confidence regarding my PE before. Usually they are short-lasting. But I can honestly say I think my new attack has brought my confidence in this business to epic heights. I'm really excited for the next 4 weeks. The vision of my dick climbing up the ruler is firmly entrenched in my mind. And who knows - maybe it's that psychological block from the past (not really expecting to see any gains) is the reason why I never did.
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Another great P.I. morning. Typical morning wood, but very persistent and nagging (I hadn't cum in 5 days). So, I took care of that. I also tried a slightly modified type of stretching this morning in the shower - https://www.pegym.com/forums/advance...html#post68135 - It seemed to work very well, but I'll wait on the official verdict.
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I guess I'm basically doing a varitey of the tunica tug and an internal stretch
They feel really good thoughInternal Stretch (pe Zen)
-Grab head and pull straight out with one hand
-with other hand, reach below your ballsack near your perenium, you will feel the penis ligament.
-while penis is outstretched use your underneath fingers, pulling the 'underneath' ligament to one side, trust me you will feel that stretch It will feel like you are pulling a trigger.
-HOLD IT HOLD IT HOLD IT!!! very important b/c the tunica requires this prolonged stretching
-you can even combine this with kegels which puts even more stretch into it
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I just added that internal stretch to my workout. Make sure you warm up the underside. Get the grundle good and warm. I really felt it... Really like that stretch.Starting Size (09/2009): ~7"BPEL x ~5" MSEG
Most Recent Measurement (08/13/2012): 8"BPEL x 5.5"MSEG
Final Goal: When I'm told to stop.
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Hey gator. Good to see you motivated again! I'm glad i could help you with you p.e. journey. I definatly think you have a good plan of attack to increase your tunica volume. But the way i view more advanced stretches is in this light. I believe that the basic stretches and a stretches are all you really need. You can pump out as much length as possible from these stretches and then when you stop growing move into other stretches that will have a different impact on your unit. If you use your excersizes like this theortically you might be able to achieve greater length than you could have if you had gone with the more advanced stretches while your basic stretches still had some extra length to yield. This is just my take on stretches i could be completley off base with this but just my basic + a stretches have already added 3/4'' to my length as well as my jelqs but i currently sit at 7 1/4'' bpel just frm the basics. So you might consider just sticking with your basics until they stop yeilding gains.Started 8/4/09 BPEL 6 1/2'' BPFL 6 9/16'' EG 4 3/4''
9/4/09 BPEL 6 3/4'' BPFL 6 13/16'' EG 5 1/8''
10/4/09 BPEL 6 3/4'' BPFL 7'' EG 5 1/4''
11/4/09 BPEL 6 15/16'' BPFL 7 1/8'' EG 5 1/4''
12/04/09 BPEL 7 1/16'' BPFL 7 1/4'' EG 5 1/4''
RESTART of PE
1/10/14 BPEL 6.5'' EG 5''
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12/11/09: OFF
12/12/09: (AM) 05 min. Warmup ♦♦ 15 min. Stretching ♦♦♦♦ (PM) 10 min. Warmup ♦♦ 23 min. Stretching ♦♦ 100 reps. NJC Jelqs
12/13/09: (AM) 05 min. Warmup ♦♦ 05 min. Stretching ♦♦♦♦ (PM) 10 min. Warmup ♦♦ 23 min. Stretching ♦♦ 100 reps. NJC Jelqs
12/14/09: (AM) 05 min. Warmup ♦♦ 05 min. Stretching ♦♦♦♦ (PM) OFF - Simply put, my penis is tired and needs rest.
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Thanks for the continuing assistance John. I really do appreciate it. You certainly do have a big pecker now and I think it's due to your knowledge and dedication. I admire that. I think the internal stretches hit the tunica more so I want to make sure I get a nice stretch hitting both the ligs and the tunica. I'll keep them to a minimum though. My ligs have been getting quite the workout the past 2.5 days. My penis is tired - I was unable to get stretching in tonight because of it. Things needed a break. I just want to make sure I'm doing ENOUGH, you know what I mean?Originally posted by JohnSmith011 View PostHey gator. Good to see you motivated again! I'm glad i could help you with you p.e. journey. I definatly think you have a good plan of attack to increase your tunica volume. But the way i view more advanced stretches is in this light. I believe that the basic stretches and a stretches are all you really need. You can pump out as much length as possible from these stretches and then when you stop growing move into other stretches that will have a different impact on your unit. If you use your excersizes like this theortically you might be able to achieve greater length than you could have if you had gone with the more advanced stretches while your basic stretches still had some extra length to yield. This is just my take on stretches i could be completley off base with this but just my basic + a stretches have already added 3/4'' to my length as well as my jelqs but i currently sit at 7 1/4'' bpel just frm the basics. So you might consider just sticking with your basics until they stop yeilding gains.
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No problem man. But yea keep up those internal stretches if you feel they are doing the job. Also just remeber you dont want to over work! so don't be so eagerto stretch out your tunica that you end up over working that will just set you back to square one you know. Dont ever be afraid of an extra day of i consider them growing days. Like every 4th to 5th p.e. work out ill just take an extra day off. It just gives your unit a little bounce back time and in the long run definatly pays off in my opinion. You aer defiantly doing enough. There is a saying in p.e. that i pretty much base a lot of my work outs on or i did in the beginning anyway, until i was condition. It goes " less is better in p.e." very good advice from JP i think. Now you are defiantly doing what is going to be needed to stretch that bad boy out so just remeber keep restin him up and dont limit your gains if you dont have to ; )Originally posted by Gator View PostThanks for the continuing assistance John. I really do appreciate it. You certainly do have a big pecker now and I think it's due to your knowledge and dedication. I admire that. I think the internal stretches hit the tunica more so I want to make sure I get a nice stretch hitting both the ligs and the tunica. I'll keep them to a minimum though. My ligs have been getting quite the workout the past 2.5 days. My penis is tired - I was unable to get stretching in tonight because of it. Things needed a break. I just want to make sure I'm doing ENOUGH, you know what I mean?Started 8/4/09 BPEL 6 1/2'' BPFL 6 9/16'' EG 4 3/4''
9/4/09 BPEL 6 3/4'' BPFL 6 13/16'' EG 5 1/8''
10/4/09 BPEL 6 3/4'' BPFL 7'' EG 5 1/4''
11/4/09 BPEL 6 15/16'' BPFL 7 1/8'' EG 5 1/4''
12/04/09 BPEL 7 1/16'' BPFL 7 1/4'' EG 5 1/4''
RESTART of PE
1/10/14 BPEL 6.5'' EG 5''
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Nice log Gator, keep it consistent, your going well, just keep it up buddy.August 09
NBPEL 6.25
BPFSL 7 & 7/16
BPEL - 6.9
EG 5.4
Current
BPFSL 8 5/8
BPEL 7 15/16
EG 5.75 (approx 6" mid)
NBPEL - approx 7"
The mind is like a fertile garden in which anything that is planted, flowers or weeds, will grow. - Bruce Lee
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Again, I think you are right John. I certainly needed the rest day and I feel refreshed today. You know, I might be overworking, but my dick doesn't really tell me that. Like I've said before, I think my dick has an iron plate in it. It seems absolutely impervious to anything I throw at it. The only negative P.I. that I have ever really experienced is pain and discomfort from a death grip in stretching. That's really it. Fatigue, yeah I've had that but I don't really consider that to be negative P.I. - more like just a result of a series of good quality workouts. That's why I've really tried to push things to the limit; I want to find out what that limit is, if I even have one. After 1500 jelqs, I probably could do another 3000. It's just something that irks me a little. But I'm really trying to stay out of that mindset right now - because MOST people gain without doing a "beat the fucking shit out of my dick" routine. IE. you, PEsG, KP, and many others.Originally posted by JohnSmith011 View PostNo problem man. But yea keep up those internal stretches if you feel they are doing the job. Also just remeber you dont want to over work! so don't be so eagerto stretch out your tunica that you end up over working that will just set you back to square one you know. Dont ever be afraid of an extra day of i consider them growing days. Like every 4th to 5th p.e. work out ill just take an extra day off. It just gives your unit a little bounce back time and in the long run definatly pays off in my opinion. You aer defiantly doing enough. There is a saying in p.e. that i pretty much base a lot of my work outs on or i did in the beginning anyway, until i was condition. It goes " less is better in p.e." very good advice from JP i think. Now you are defiantly doing what is going to be needed to stretch that bad boy out so just remeber keep restin him up and dont limit your gains if you dont have to ; )
I remember this:
I think those two bolds are both quickly becoming a problem.MY PE VICES
I’ve never given a routine long enough to know if it was really working or not.
I intensify at a rate that would hardly be considered “gradual.”
I often mistake myself for being advanced in the PE world.
I place too little emphasis on quality.
I habitually get frustrated and irritated for no apparent reason.
I don’t properly listen to my penis when it speaks to me.
I measure entirely too often and I routinely expect gains every time.
I expect to gain at the same rate as or better than other people.
I frequently cross the line between focusing and obsessing.
I take my improved EQ, larger flaccid and increased stamina for granted.
I surrender too easily.
I want to get into a groove where I do my PE without thinking too much about it. I think that's the ultimate mode to be in. I think PEsG was in that for his first year and he gained like a god damn madman, sort of like John. PE needs to be a groove, not a task. It needs to be groooooooovy. I need to work on that aspect.
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