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So Ive been doing pe for about a year. alot of the times I have noticed that even when doing the jp 90 routine I seem to make gains the first week and then my penis starts to turtle and I start to lose size Ive even done the very beginner routine and the same thing has happened. I would only do 10 min of jelqing with a 10 min warmup. I am experiementing with something however. I am starting from scratch and now my new routine is only 50 jelqs everyday. I noticed something... my flaccid hang lasts all day now. and it seems like my dick doent hurt when I get an erection. Im going to do this routine for 3 months and log the results to see if less is really more. I have a feeling that the reason most people dont make crazy gains is because they are doing way too much.