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Hey Huge...
im currently on the newbie routine found at TP..

warmup in shower (hot water)
stretch in shower (hot water)
200 jelqs
warm down in shower

I do this 2 days on and two day off, and do official measurements every sunday.

i believe stretching with the hot water has been very conducive to my gains... but cant prove it either way.

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there some amazing gains!! there some quick ass gains aswell keep it up buddy

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I just posted this in NP's log - but wow does it apply here too...

Man, what the fuck do you eat? I'm bound and determined to figure out why you gain so much so fast and then apply it to me whenever I decide to start exercising again. Maybe it's something in that water...

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I just posted this in NP's log - but wow does it apply here too...

Gator!
soo glad your back man!
still in school right?

anyways... here is my daily breakfast.

1/2 cup of oats.
handful of unsalted nuts.
a bit of honey.
1 protein shake (1 scoop cesian)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium/vitminD
1 Omega3 capsule
2 resveratrol capsules
2 quercetin capsules
3000mg L-argenine

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AHHHH!!!
i just can't get to the 7" mark...
Measured
02/21/2010 - BPEL 6.94 EG 5.0
looks like my newbie gains are coming to an end.

thinking that maybe my ligs have been maxed out i incorporated more tunica focused jelqs and stretches today...
hopefully this will get me gaining again.

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Big O. Some things to try:

(1) Take a week off, or maybe just 3-4 days.
(2) Increase your warmup time.

Your ligs are probably not maxed out. What they might be is very worn out and you are experiencing some retraction. The longer warmup might be needed to heat the deep structures. The break could give the ligs some relaxation time.

(3) ADS / Extender - you may need something more forceful to break a barrier.

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And Yes/No - I didn't quit school, I just took a leave of absence. I'll go back in August. Thanks for your concerns

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And Yes/No - I didn't quit school, I just took a leave of absence. I'll go back in August. Thanks for your concerns

np Gator... i really appreciate the help you give.
was sad when i heard you were quitting school...
developing your mind is a much more important than developing your dick. lol
ayway.. glad you opted for the leave of absence.
i wish you the best buddy.

Big O. Some things to try:

(1) Take a week off, or maybe just 3-4 days.
(2) Increase your warmup time.

Your ligs are probably not maxed out. What they might be is very worn out and you are experiencing some retraction. The longer warmup might be needed to heat the deep structures. The break could give the ligs some relaxation time.

(3) ADS / Extender - you may need something more forceful to break a barrier.

Thanks for the tips Gator! Ive extended my warmup times and incorporated a container that i fill with hot water to try and reach the deeper tissues.
I actually measured 7" BPEL yesterday on an exceptionally good boner.. hopefully i can make it consistent before my next measuring, but for now Im just taking it as a positive PI.
As for incorporating rest weeks and ADS, im thinking i should try and complete a consistent newbie program before switching the program up... in 30 days or so ill be ready to experiment.

oh one question though... by reading Remek's theory page it seems if your BPFL is close to your BPEL, your tunic is the limiting factor.
my BPFL is around 7.15" is that the same as maxed ligs? maybe im confused on that...
regardless though, the longer warmup can only be positive.

thanks in advance Gator!

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Measured
02/28/2010 - BPEL 7.0 EG 5.0!!!

Finally! measured 1" inch in length gains.
BPFL also seems to have improved to a little over 7.25... hope this means i have more to gain.

Only complaint recently is my EQ has decreased significantly right-now im gonna blame it on stress due to upcoming finals, lack of sleep and nutrition..
but it could become concerning in the future.

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I'm convinced that this is the fastest ascension into the 1-inch club I have ever read about. You've probably gained even more than that. Just get that EQ up with some edging and you'll probably see an even higher measurement.

I'm both happy for you and sickened/jealous of your gains

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Thanks Gator!
ill try to post some pics as quick as i can...
really glad your back... your my first PE mentor..
thanks for sharing your thoughts and all your help.

so do you think i need to start focusing on tunica related stuff as suggested by remek's theory?
it may also explain the declining EQ but that may be wishful thinking..
i wont feel like ive cheated my newbie phase by just doing more v jelqs.

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O - don't stop what's working! Holy crap, if I gained an inch in two months, I'd keep doing that routine until I made no gains on it for 3 months. The only thing I would suggest you try is simply upping the reps. I think eventually your gains will slow because your penis will be adjusted to the stress you are putting down on it. This is where slow and steady progression is key to long lasting gains. Try adding 2-3 minutes of stretching and 25-50 reps of jelqing. Watch your P.I.s and especially EQ. Drop back down if they go south.

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I think eventually your gains will slow because your penis will be adjusted to the stress you are putting down on it. This is where slow and steady progression is key to long lasting gains. Try adding 2-3 minutes of stretching and 25-50 reps of jelqing. Watch your P.I.s and especially EQ. Drop back down if they go south.

Ya im almost certain i could loose it all if i were to stop PE as of now. just got to put in the perseverance like everyone else.
ill definitely keep the longer warmup and start adding to the routine as you've said.

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Wow...
sorry everyone for dropping out of the gym for a good 3 weeks.
school and personal problems just really swamped me. just an overload of classes and breaking up with my first long-term girl.
i haven't done official measurements but it seems my cock is just about where i left it.
got back in to PE this last Sunday.

anyways. here is the long promised pic of my gains... taken last sunday.
quality is not so great cause i only have a cell phone for pictures.
and i was unable to get my eq to its best while fumbling with the phone so it does show just under 7, but its the best i could do..

https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...cture221-7.jpg

kind of disappointed i ruined my consistency taking that long break, but im ready for a new beginning.