The great guy

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Hi folks, since I'm having again some sleeping problems , I was there lying in bed, thinking about some nice guy vs bad boy guy stuff. I know we already have such thread on this forum. Some great posts have been posted there but there is still a split between which one is better and why.

If we look at nice guys they are quiet good people. What they often lack is keeping themselves satisfied. They are putting everybody's interest in first place. On the other hand, we have bad boys or jerks. They are kinda selfish guys only looking for their pleasure in life. When we look at this two types of personality we see that they both are extremes. Either one has some qualities and bad sides. Nice guys have this great ability to connect with people on emotional level. What they lack is some sexual chemistry and that's what bad boys have from start. That's also the reason why bad boys often get laid while nice guys end up being friends.

So, I'm not going here to write more about nice guys and bad boys since we already have thread about them. I would like to talk about great normal guy that can be anyone.

A great post about that was mentioned by Mcdong

Don't read pick up artist crap. Yes, it works, but women can see through it. It's fake. Don't pretend to be someone else.

The best way to pick up a pretty girl is to NOT treat her like a smoking hot chic that makes your knees tremble. Instead, look at her as your oldest friend, the one that you can laugh with/at and completely be yourself with. Once you let down the "cool guy, pick up chics attitude", then you can relax and the whole situation is that much less stressful.

If its at a bar or party, then walk up and introduce yourself. No games. Just be relaxed. Once you break the ice, ask HER questions about what she likes. It's easier to listen and smile/laugh then to talk and put on a show. If you are nerdy, then talk about needy stuff. If she bites, then you have a common interest. If she doesn't, then switch topics by asking her a few questions that require her opinion. Hell.. even make a joke about how nerdy you are and laugh about it. It's really that easy.

As for Nice Guy vs. Bad Boy. I know that a nice guy with a spine/balls/opinions that require character will generally beat the Bad Boy attitude. To me, a nice guy is a pushover and doesn't take a stand. He gets walked over. Yeah, he's nice because he puts everyone else's needs/wants ahead of his own.

Be nice. Have manners. Look her in the eyes. Smile. Talk with confidence. This is the description of a great guy. The great guy every girl wants. Its a little bit of nice guy and bad boy blended together.

It all starts on the inside.

That's my over 30, did well with the ladies perspective.

MD

This was a great info about being yourself in first place. You are taking best from both worlds ( nice guy and bad boy ) and putting together while being normal. A great guy, that's what we all should be about. What we need to do to accomplish that is a positive mindset in first place. I'm not here talking about mindset while talking to girls. It's an unique positive mindset and energy that people should reflect trough their life. That's what it takes to be a great guy. An outlook on life full of smiles embracing the positives and negatives that come up to you.

I myself had some points in life where I was a nice guy and been walked over and being jerk and still ended up with no success. I must admit that being so called bad boy has brought me more girls than being nice. But the point is here that these relationship weren't bringing joy and fulfillment. That's karma. You get what you bring in.

What I'm still trying to accomplish now by myself is to be just an open guy that will easily connect to people on daily basis. Not just girls. Girls will come when I, you and others get to the point where we are happy and fulfilled by ourselves.
When you reach that point where you happy, and I mean really happy inside, without being insecure about this or that, that's the point where you will be successful even if you got rejected, fired from job, put on the bench by your coach etc.


I think that being a great guy it's the zen of being a man.

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Huh ;if you can be a bad boy go and do it, it seems to pay.

[rocknrolla Banned Find all posts View Profile Close rocknrolla]

yea it pays with more opportunities, but these relationship doesn't seams to workout, in first place the girl suffers, and if you change your behavior it still doesn't work because now they are not used to it.

[millia Senior Member;PEGym Editor Find all posts View Profile Close millia]

I use an even combination of the two. Mostly the asshole side of me ("bad boy") and once they get attracted to me I sink the hook into the fish by up-playing my sweet side ("good guy"). Although most girls have never made it to my sweet side except a few.
My own bad boy routine is great for picking up chicks and doing the one night stand thing, even meeting girls online (facebook) and meeting up for casual sex. Or just for girls that I first meet and what not. Although it might just be other things too because I am funny so when that's mixed with the asshole side of me, the girls end up laughing and giggling away.
Not sure how to explain it more, but it has worked for me, and the good and bad boy side of me has landed me an amazing girlfriend.

[rocknrolla Banned Find all posts View Profile Close rocknrolla]

nice wook millia, being an interesting person is a great thing.

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I'm almost completely a nice guy, I treat everyone around me with respect as long as they don't prove that they are undeserving of it, I don't smoke or drink or do drugs, hell, I'm a fucking Eagle Scout! With that said though, I don't let people walk on me. Even though I treat people with respect, I'll only go above and beyond that for people who deserve it and I have an extremely high sense of confidence and self respect, even though I'm kind of a socially awkward person I embrace my personality rather than feeling shy or timid. It even took me 11 whole months of talking to my current girlfriend (also my first girlfriend) and steadily building friendship with her before we finally dated and I can honestly say that I wouldn't get rid of her for anybody. I've wondered for quite some time if taking the "high road" on nearly everything actually pays off and now I feel that it does.

Though this might seem like a strange or irrelevent thing to refer to regarding nice guy/bad boy, I'd say it describes this necessary mixture perfectly: I'm a pretty big guy (about 6'2"-6'3" and 200 LBS) and a gentle giant, yet when I get together to play football with friends I'm always the aggressive heavy hitter, some of them even say that I'm like a different person when we play football because I'm always such a calm guy in general life.

[rocknrolla Banned Find all posts View Profile Close rocknrolla]

jup mate you found a great way to express yourself. That's all about in life. I once read that elvis presley was a relative shy guy, but when he was on stage he got that magnetism and expressive personality that attract others. That's maybe the case with you and your football. When people saw you on the field they get another you and they respect you because you are a deep person. you probably also have success with women since they found that very attractive quality.

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What ever happened to just being yourself? Why do we have to have this "good guy vs bad guy" debate? Every guy has a good guy and bad guy side. I'm myself everday of my life and I do get many women taking notice.....

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Well I think is' easier to say good or bad bad guy then list the good and bad qualities. Well that's my point of view. I think we are on the same page, just using different expressions. It's really hard to define good of bad behavior when it's comes to women. It's better to look from an perspective of an attractive behavior. That's the point of my thread, to find that golden middle for yourself. Some guys can be writers and write poems to specific girl and be in their eyes as an alpha, others can do the same thing and be a wuss.

A definition of a good guy could be a man using every opportunity and play on his qualities and weaknesses to gain an edge when it comes to life and woman. Nice guys and bad boys are often viewed as extreme ends.

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Well I think is' easier to say good or bad bad guy then list the good and bad qualities. Well that's my point of view. I think we are on the same page, just using different expressions. It's really hard to define good of bad behavior when it's comes to women. It's better to look from an perspective of an attractive behavior. That's the point of my thread, to find that golden middle for yourself. Some guys can be writers and write poems to specific girl and be in their eyes as an alpha, others can do the same thing and be a wuss.

A definition of a good guy could be a man using every opportunity and play on his qualities and weaknesses to gain an edge when it comes to life and woman. Nice guys and bad boys are often viewed as extreme ends.

I can easily shoot of a poem via text to my girl and that night (if we get some privacy) fuck her like a porn star............I can be the romantic gentleman at dinner and a complete man whore in the bedroom with her afterwards. For me, it's easy to make the distinction from going from "nice" guy to "cave man". If that makes sense.

[rocknrolla Banned Find all posts View Profile Close rocknrolla]

that's good example. I find myself sometimes hard to make these distinctions and changes. I think that being able to pull that smooth you need to first detach yourself from any outcome.

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