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  • An exercise in thought :/

    *Not sure where I should post this considering the amount of things I talk about, so if any mods feel it should go in another forum then feel free to move it.

    Hey everyone. Bear with me as this is long, but it is a scenario I figure a good amount of you have gone through, and that certain lurkers may be wondering to themselves as well, and I feel I need to get it out here to at least have it out for thoughts. For the sake of relevance, here is a very quick back story of mine. I'm 19 years old, I graduated high school last year. During this little-over a year period I've been trying to find a job, but have been unable to with how rough prospects are here, though I plan to start school within the coming year to do something with myself. My penis is 4 inches long when erect, and has a girth of about 4.7 inches. For comparison, I'm 5'8'' and weigh 140 pounds. I'm a virgin, and I've never gone farther than making out with the two girlfriends I've had (though I honestly don't mind that). What I do mind is the way I feel about myself down there.

    There has been a rather gradual shift in my emotional pattern these last few months, in that I've slowly been feeling more and more insecure about my penis size. Deep down I always knew I wasn't impressive, but once I got into researching and looking up information, I realized that I was in the far lower end of what is commonly considered average. Part of the reason this annoys me so much, and why its only recently that I've gotten so down about it, is because for most of my life I always had other things to worry about. I had a lot of acne, I wasn't very athletic, my clothes didn't show me off for the better, I didn't know how to talk to girls, and in general I wasn't confident in who I was. Now I'm by now means perfect at this point, but I can honestly say that all of those things have improved. My acne is gone and has been for a while, I wear clothes that I like and that compliment me well. I'm not very social (by choice), but I no longer have any issues talking to girls or to random people that I may not know. Although I'm not yet satisfied, my taking up exercising has toned and given me a better body than I ever have. I love my personality, and in general life my confidence has skyrocketed with these improvements. But as you can tell by my presence here, not all is well.

    Once I got around to improving these things I realized that, although FAR from a Casanova or heart-throb, I had the potential to attract girls I previously wouldn't have thought I had a shot with. On the occasions that I do go out and do things with friends at the mall or what-have-you, I at least get a few good looks from some of the girls my age, whereas before I never got any. A good number of girls I've befriended online have even commented positively on my apperance without me even hinting curiosity. Awesome, right? Surprisingly enough, this is where my main issue comes from; I'm afraid that the day I'm in a great relationship with a girl I like, and things become sexual, that she won't be able to get aroused and enjoy sex due to my small dick. I'm afraid that the more awesome and sexually-open she is, the more it would not only hurt to lose her, but the more chance there is that she's had a lot better sexually and I won't be able to measure up to it. I'm afraid that, whether it's in that moment or a matter of weeks, that she won't feel the urge to be with me anymore and depart for greener (or should I say bigger) pastures.

    It's as if I've been fighting a war with myself all my life, and just when the dust looked settled and I was beginning to draft some peace treaties, a larger and much more dangerous front has suddenly opened up to begin the doubting all over again.

    I know what some of you might be thinking, because I've thought a lot about it too. A girl is far more interested in me as a whole than just your penis, I shouldn't be worried about size as girls don't think about it as much as guys do, there's always oral sex and direct clitoral stimulation, etc. But a lot of those things ignore something I know is true: I don't want to just be good in bed, I want to make a girl feel as good as she would be making me feel. And I don't know if I'll be able to do that with the 4 inches I have. I may be a virgin but I know sexuality is very important in making a relationship work, and I hate the thought that it may be the only department I won't be able to do well in.

    I personally would never buy any pills, supplements, herbs and devices that would claim to increase my size, both because I don't believe in them and because I don't have the money for them if I did. However, I did come across this site during my searching, and came in with a skepticism that is still a bit present. What's in this site though, I must admit, has had me thinking a lot these last couple of days (JP's beginner routine in specific) especially with how many posters are around here. It would seem that here would lie the only potential way for me to increase my size a bit, safely and naturally. I've always valued the concept of the self, that if I am going to change something about myself it has to be because I want to, and I have to be 100 percent into it. I don't know if I want to do this yet, there is a part of me that thinks I'm crazy for even considering it. I don't want to mess up my penis, and I'd much rather have a 4-incher than one that doesn't work at all. But at the same time, I obviously have an issue on my hands if I even decided to come here. Heck, it bugs me when I see a thread asking about whether a 5.5 or 6.5 inch penis can satisfy a girl, when in my head I go "Dude, I would KILL to have that".

    I guess what I want to know is; at what point do I sacrifice the way I am to better the way I think about myself? I know I have a small penis, but is my issue one of confidence? Am I justified in how paranoid I am? Is it better to stay with my current size and suffer trial and error to find a girl who will love me for who I am, or do I try and work for an extra inch or two, that may not come, so I can worry about it less?

    I'm aware this is a question I will have to answer for myself soon enough, but I would greatly appreciate perspectives that aren't coming from my own mind.
    Save_the_Dodo
    Junior Member
    Last edited by Save_the_Dodo; 08-08-2010, 06:28 PM.

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    First off, awesome post. You're very articulate and you're NOT depressed. This is very encouraging and it makes me believe pretty much everything you're saying.

    I've been with mroe than 30 women and I can count on one hand the amount of times dick size has come into play (and they weren't all positive). I know you're not interested in averages or some mediocre story about how size doesn't matter, I'm jsut reaffirming what you've already said. You are well aware of your size and you've obviously made some effort into learning the facts.

    So, in all honesty I would say to you that since you're attracting women that (apparently) are suitable to you and that you would want to be with I would say just tell them that you're below average in that department right off the bat. Don't make a big deal about it but just mention it before things get too serious. Like I was saying, many women are less than satisfied from my size and I've been with quite a few women. There's DEFINATELY more to sex than size. If however, like you're saying, you're rpetty sure that your size is an actual issue that needs to be understood then just let them know. At the very least you'll get some feedback.

    I knew a girl in college that wanted me so fucking bad she just couldn't help herself and she flat out told me that she had a very small vagina and that we probalby couldn't have sex. I was totall blown away, I didn't knwo what to say. You may not see this as a parallel but I'm pretty sure that you can find women to respond positively to this. First of all some women are control freaks and will get off at being able to control you. Secondly, some women love it when men submit to them and tell them secrets. You just never know.

    You don't sound depressed so I'm hoping you can take some rejection. Believe me, every man gets rejected, big cock or not. So if you can handle that I'd say just go for it and start learnin how to eat pussy like a mother fucker. Ask redbear or GettinthereOK, they both love eatin pussy.

    And hey, in a year or two you could very likely end up with a 5 or 6 inch dick. No problems with that I'm sure?

    Oh and one last thing, you said your penis girth is greater than your lenght. I'm no expert in PE but that seems odd to me. I'd say you've either measured wrong or you could possibly be in for some decent gains in teh length department.
    niagra
    Senior Member
    Last edited by niagra; 08-08-2010, 07:07 PM.

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    • #3
      Welcome Save_The_Dodo,

      You are in the right place & PE is 100% real. You will get great support here also from many people who can guide you.

      You have time on your side - Good luck.
      Vulcan
      7.25 (start July 2009)>>>>>>8.125"BPEL (current)
      5.25 (start July 2009)>>>>>>5.75"EG (current)

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      • #4
        Welcome Save the Dodo,

        I sure hope (and think) Niagra meant to write, "MORE than satisfied with my size,"...
        I feel pretty confident that you could find a deep and satisfying love with a woman, regardless of your penis size. Real love obliterates fears and insecurities like that, if you can open your heart to it that is...
        That being said, I can see how your predicament would cause you much psychological distress. I would be very impressed with your psyche if you could not obsess a little.
        I just started the JP90 about six weeks or so ago. I've learned that there is much more to this site than growing the penis, it's about learning about your penis, how it works, about all the muscles on your pelvic floor, ejaculation control- lots of just very useful information. Doing the JP90, I'm not going to injure myself because I am specifically working to gain self-knowledge regarding that part of my body, it's about exploring and learning (and also growing my penis...). If you start the JP90, try not to take a sense of desperation and hopelessness into your sessions. It feels good to exercise the penis, and it's a healthy thing to do!
        Here's the poll on the results of the JP90

        PEGym Forums - View Poll Results

        Good luck with it all my friend...

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        • #5
          Wonderfully well-written post _Dodo, good on you for getting it out. As Vulcan says, you're in the right place. The way you wrote i laughed once or twice, cos i also think in terms of 'peace processes' and 'opening up new fronts'! But from what i know, this 'new front' thats opened can be just as catastrophic to your mental well-being and development as a well-rounded guy, as anything. Or more so. I know you don't want to hear sob-stories from guys with bigger start stats, so i'll leave them out, but this penis-anxiety shit ruins life, for guys of all sorts of shapes and sizes. Its our fucked-up perceptions of whats needed to stack up as blokes.

          AsNiagra touched on, many women don't give a shit about dick size, and many just wouldn't want a huge one. You sound like a good, smart guy getting himself together, and it'd be crap if these worries held you back in life. If i were you mate i'd consider strongly getting on a pe routine. Your dicks enough to satisfy a pussy just now, but for your own confidence you obviously like the sound of a bit more. Your girths fine, so with some modest length and girth gains you'd be well into the good side of average. Some members have gone from your size to having some of the most impressive dongs around! I honestly believe if you apply at least as much care as you would working out in the gym to pe, the risks of injury are minimal.

          The stakes are high, the rewards money can't buy. If i could go back to 19, i'd discover pe, thats it. The rest takes care of itself. In the meantime, don't hold back, do your thing and live. All the best anyhows mate.
          ErictheGed
          Senior Member
          Last edited by ErictheGed; 08-08-2010, 08:50 PM.

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          • #6
            So I know I'm incredibly late on this, but it wasn't for naught as I was actually thinking about this (and other things) during this stretch of time. Although I accept that I likely could meet/be with a girl who would have zero issues with my size, I've realized that I don't like thinking about it as much as I do, and as such I've decided to get started on a routine. I started on Thursday and Friday and took the weekend off, and am currently on the first official week so to speak. Mainly for my own self-confidence, so that I don't have to be as down about it as I get at times. I appreciate the replies from those that did put them in, and I considered them heavily. So thanks guys.
            Save_the_Dodo
            Junior Member
            Last edited by Save_the_Dodo; 09-15-2010, 06:37 PM.

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            • #7
              Hi again Dodo,

              I don't like thinking about it as much as I do either. In fact, I see it as a bit of a drawback to PE that it keeps size and such in my mind. But, the actual exercises themselves kind of relieve tension for me, it feels good to me, so that's one reason I continue.

              Personally, I think it takes a good deal of psychological work to overcome these issues as well. One has to deeply comprehend that one is beyond the physical body, but I suppose that is another matter entirely... we are trying to grow bigger penises, but we also have the potential to be Beethovens or Einsteins... I think creative genius is worth an inch or two of penis, at least... (jk)

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              • #8
                Nah, I actually feel the exact same way. I'm not full of myself, but I know I'm a pretty smart guy and I'm really interested in getting in the film business. Some days I feel inspired and can ignore other thoughts, but a lot of the time it sucks trying to focus on creativeness when you feel so insecure. If nothing else though, I do like doing the routine because it at least feels like I'm trying to do something about it.

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                • #9
                  Word up! and the psychological work is harder, and not as much fun as the JP90!

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                  • #10
                    welcome to PEgym mate nice post
                    and i am positive if your willing to give yourself 100% and follow this to the T u will gain.

                    Originally posted by niagra View Post
                    Oh and one last thing, you said your penis girth is greater than your lenght. I'm no expert in PE but that seems odd to me. I'd say you've either measured wrong or you could possibly be in for some decent gains in teh length department.
                    i got
                    6" EG base
                    5.4" MEG
                    and 5.5" BPEL
                    som of us do have these measurements mate, i surely hope your lenght/girth theory prooves to be solid
                    I know by heart i finally found the diamond (PEgym)
                    Progress tips and tricks/pics added
                    https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-thread-1.html

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