The ugly guy.

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Any average looking guys with above average looking women? How do you deal with that, ugly guy good looking girl deal?

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You enjoy it.

-UYN-

[RockstarParkingDude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RockstarParkingDude]

smile. don't get jealous of other guys, or insecure about whether she likes them. think like they should be jealous of you. jealousy and insecurity is a sign of weakness and women do not respond to it well. it is one of the most unattractive things you can do.

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As UYN said, "Enjoy it"

Woman love confident males. Just be confident and yourself.

[Always Ready Brek Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Always Ready Brek]

man i always see ugly guys with unreal girls and handsome blokes with rotten girls. i see that much more often than i see good lookin men datin good lookin women. honestly, i think the looks factor seems to be mostly luck for both sides!!

and how to deal with it?? treat her like a gem without stickin your tongue up her ass had one bud (no offence to him he looks like a camels ass) with an absolute lash,, his method was to treat her like shit so she would feel like he is above her / on the same level. ya, that didnt work. dont be a dick unless you really are a dick and they like you cos you actually are, a dick. other than that, just calm the fuck down!! good lookin women are still just women after all. regardless of how intimidating beauty can be

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Girls view beauty a little different .. often they will be attracted to the flaws in a mans appearance or the unique things and personality is what can make a man really beautiful to a woman .. so that is why you see model type woman with not so attractive men.. Attractive woman also can be quite insecure and also can get tired of people just focusing on the exterior beauty so sometimes when they are looking for love they will look for someone who doesn't reflect that back to them .

How do you deal with it? You remain the same as you were before you got the hottie,
if you change and get uber insecure OR over enthusiastic about her OR start treating her like royalty OR poorly because you hate the attention she gets then what she was originally attracted to disappears.

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Girls view beauty a little different .. often they will be attracted to the flaws in a mans appearance or the unique things and personality is what can make a man really beautiful to a woman .. so that is why you see model type woman with not so attractive men.. Attractive woman also can be quite insecure and also can get tired of people just focusing on the exterior beauty so sometimes when they are looking for love they will look for someone who doesn't reflect that back to them .

How do you deal with it? You remain the same as you were before you got the hottie,
if you change and get uber insecure OR over enthusiastic about her OR start treating her like royalty OR poorly because you hate the attention she gets then what she was originally attracted to disappears.

I think that it's kind of wrong for a women no matter her insecurities to go after a guy she is not attracted to and the of course with love start to gain a physical awareness of the guy. what about the guy and what he wants as far as far as attraction. I know many of my friend ugly or not want to be desired seemingly like most women. whats fair?

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I think that it's kind of wrong for a women no matter her insecurities to go after a guy she is not attracted to and the of course with love start to gain a physical awareness of the guy. what about the guy and what he wants as far as far as attraction. I know many of my friend ugly or not want to be desired seemingly like most women. whats fair?

I think you miss understood what i was trying to say .. They are attracted to the guy physically but its not for his classic good looks. so yes she visually finds him appealing because women generally can not be sexual with men they don't have physical attraction towards.. Females unlike men often aim lower or equal in leagues rather then higher and how a woman looks on the outside doesn't always reflect how she 'feels' she looks in her mind ..

The miss matching of looks is not just reserved to average or below average guys with hot woman .. i have seen plenty of hot guys with average woman or below average..Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but personality can make a persons unique beauty shine, the inner beauty shining and over riding visual beauty doesn't just apply to romantic relationships .. it applies to friendships. you can have a friend who isn't as attractive but there personality makes you blind to how they look physically...

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Truly, looks are really the least important part of a person. Of course I like a good looking man.... but once I get to know someone, it is the person I see, not the looks. I know a number of very "attractive" (= good looking) men that I find repulsive because of their personalities and how they act; I know a number of "not attractive" (= not particularly good looking) men that I find very attractive because of their personalities and how they act.

I always just assumed that it was the same for everyone with half a brain, male or female.
Looks only go so far..... not far enough to matter very much, at least in my book.

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I think you miss understood what i was trying to say .. They are attracted to the guy physically but its not for his classic good looks. so yes she visually finds him appealing because women generally can not be sexual with men they don't have physical attraction towards.. Females unlike men often aim lower or equal in leagues rather then higher and how a woman looks on the outside doesn't always reflect how she 'feels' she looks in her mind ..

The miss matching of looks is not just reserved to average or below average guys with hot woman .. i have seen plenty of hot guys with average woman or below average..Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but personality can make a persons unique beauty shine, the inner beauty shining and over riding visual beauty doesn't just apply to romantic relationships .. it applies to friendships. you can have a friend who isn't as attractive but there personality makes you blind to how they look physically...

I agree with it being on both sides and i understood what you were saying as well. My point is no one likes to be settled for on any basis. I hate hearing on either side how personality shined through so that person overlooked there lack of beauty so to speak to be with that person.

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Truly, looks are really the least important part of a person. Of course I like a good looking man.... but once I get to know someone, it is the person I see, not the looks. I know a number of very "attractive" (= good looking) men that I find repulsive because of their personalities and how they act; I know a number of "not attractive" (= not particularly good looking) men that I find very attractive because of their personalities and how they act.

I always just assumed that it was the same for everyone with half a brain, male or female.
Looks only go so far..... not far enough to matter very much, at least in my book.

I agree. I wasn't speaking of looks in dominance of a human being but the personal feeling that perhaps the peron on the not so good looking end feels. I'm average, i've talk to my friends who fall between those average lines some knowingly unattractive.

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I agree with it being on both sides and i understood what you were saying as well. My point is no one likes to be settled for on any basis. I hate hearing on either side how personality shined through so that person overlooked there lack of beauty so to speak to be with that person.

You hear things like that because people tend to be very judgmental about who other people find attractive .. so alot of people will say personality was the key, because personality IS the most important thing and its hard for the other person to argue and its also easier to say its personality then to try an explain your attraction to someone and leaving yourself open for criticism of your taste... Its really no ones business who you find physically attractive or friends to express concern about your physical taste...where as if a person personality/character is poor then its ok for friends to express concern.

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I agree. I wasn't speaking of looks in dominance of a human being but the personal feeling that perhaps the peron on the not so good looking end feels. I'm average, i've talk to my friends who fall between those average lines some knowingly unattractive.

the answer to that is actually a very complicated layered answer
because so many factors come into play for how the person feels and handles the situation, because it depends on the core personality and character of the person who has obtained the hottie.. Getting someone who you perceive as out of your league in the looks department can bring both positive and negative feelings and dramas that a person has never had to worry about before.

I think how a person feels about it or handles it depends on whether or not he has confidence in himself at the core...or if he has insecurity and the hottie is used in his mind as validation "saying i am good enough" then it can be a situation where the person has bit off more then he can chew...because he doesn't have the core confidence.

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the answer to that is actually a very complicated layered answer
because so many factors come into play for how the person feels and handles the situation, because it depends on the core personality and character of the person who has obtained the hottie.. Getting someone who you perceive as out of your league in the looks department can bring both positive and negative feelings and dramas that a person has never had to worry about before.

I think how a person feels about it or handles it depends on whether or not he has confidence in himself at the core...or if he has insecurity and the hottie is used in his mind as validation "saying i am good enough" then it can be a situation where the person has bit off more then he can chew...because he doesn't have the core confidence.

hmmmmmmm core confidence...U would think I have that yet it's shaken by what her friends and family think. Which makes me think of when my one friend who is quite confident even though he knows he by mainly all standards is unattractive or ugly. The girl he was with then loved him to death and she was very nice looking. she showed him off to her friends and they were not very "what a catch" with her. Most didn't even speak just said he's ok then moved on with the day. We all know the usual interest in our friends new lovers and such but they just said he's ok know questions or anything. As he told me what she told him, I could still see some of that hurt though he was over it by then. He explain then how he felt like shit. It was something for me to hear ans see because i never saw him show pain to such a hit.

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Hmmm... I think men should stop worrying about how they look, because as TTBB pointed out towards the top of this thread, women are not all that interested in physical appearance.

The example you brought up More is interesting. I can't say for sure, but those (girl)friends are perhaps living vicariously through their friend, only in a negative way - I've seen this happen many times. It's far easier to apply your ideal standards to a friend than it is to yourself, and some (petty) people will quickly jump on the opportunity to do so. They can dismiss the new boyfriend as unattractive, but how many of them are going out with a male-model lookalike? I'm willing to bet that 90% of those girls that gave the new boyfriend a lukewarm reception wouldn't hesitate to overlook looks if a guy swept them off their feet.

And, from what I have seen, that's pretty much how women role. A man's confidence and personality do the attracting, not his looks.

I do understand why men may feel inadequate on account of their appearance. That said, I also think that men stress so much about how they themselves look because, more often than not, that's how they pick out women from the crowd - based on the woman's looks. But again, I'm convinced that that's not how women view the world. A lot of my female friends are really beautiful and most of their boyfriends/husbands don't have it going on in the looks department. I really think men should just calm down, and focus on building up their confidence and sense of self worth instead.