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  • #16
    After my marriage, as a single guy I had a friend of mine ask me to sleep with his wife. He wanted us to both do it at the same time and because I was still going through post-divorce blues I was not jumping at the chance but finally one night we did all three mess around a bit.

    I COMPLETELY understand the not wanting to swap. I know when I am completely in love and head over heels it is a sort of hot fantasy that I have a lot, but the reality would be something else. The only time I got into it awhile as I stated was when I was seeing a girl I was really into sexually, but knew I would never marry, etc. so felt okay about us swapping. I am glad I did as it was a turn on and fun, but mainly because of my distance emotionally. We'd meet couples at hotels or at their homes and it was just crazy fun. This one couple, the guy loved to just "give" us his girl to do whatever we wanted with while he watched, or sometimes left and let us "borrow her". Nutty times.

    I had NO problem with the women I loved being with other women. I was on a business trip once when I was married and had my wife and girlfriend get it on while I could listen on the phone. My current girl, as I mentioned, had been through pretty much all the crazy experiences sexually you could imagine and the last five years pretty much put all her wild sexual side behind here (threesomes, anal sex, etc.) but since being with me she has reawakened some of that "giant" and now wants to find a girl again.

    Her experience with the swapping was fun she said, but admitted she was also using it as a way out of her marriage at the time. She had lost a lot of respect for her husband for a couple reasons (cheating being one of them) and so after they got involved with a stripper, they found some "couples retreat" that she said "hey, lets do this so we can both get it on" and her husband was like: "okay", so the two of them for about 4 months had four or five couples they would regularly get together with and spend the whole night swapping. It was, she said, each combo going off somewhere and getting it on rather than 4 guys on a girl, etc., but she said it certainly served to slowly sever their relationship. But, she enjoyed it. The whole "prepping" with the women in the showers and getting high (ecstacy) was all part of the fun.

    Her and I have talked extensively about it and I said that I admit I am not turned on by watching another guy with her in reality partly because of her past and how it helped to separate her relationship. I also tried it (with her and her husband) and did not really do a lot for me sexually. She understands and even respects that about me as her last husband was pretty much like "here you go guys, take her". I have several couple friends that LOVE swapping. The men love watching their wives with other men and visa versa but for me, watching the woman-to-woman is about my limit. I don't even care if I join in anymore. I have had quite a few FFM threesomes so know what it is about and am cool if it never happens again, but she does like the idea of wanting me to play around with the third as well, so if (more likely when) this happens, I will let you all know ;-)

    She is a gorgeous girl and I don't mean in the way that every man should look at their girl but had been a model and actress for a number of years and just gets a lot of attention wherever she goes from men and women. She is all I ever need for sure but having her be the primary girl with a third coming in will be something I imagine.
    8/10/97
    BPEL 6 3/4''
    EG 5 (mid shaft)

    11/4/97
    BPEL 7 1/8"
    EG 5 1/4"

    Restarted 8/4/09
    BPEL 7 1/4"
    EG 5 1/4"

    11/10/09
    BPEL 7 1/4+"
    NPBEL 6.6
    EG 5 1/4"
    BPFS 7 3/4"

    (After restart 3 months on Phallosan only) 8/11/20
    BPEL 7.5
    NBEL 6.75
    EG ?

    Long term goal
    BPEL 8"
    EG 6

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dingdong View Post
      I would have wanted to kick the shit out of the guy for suggesting such a thing. And if my wife suggested or agreed to that, I'd divorce her and be tempted to slam her jaw with an uppercut (I wouldn't hurt her, but I would want to). But hey, that's just me. Old school. Back in the early seventies, when my father was in dental school, some of his classmates were swingers with "open" relationships. All of them are divorced today. If you want to screw around, why get married? Why have a girlfriend? Just call her your fuck toy because that's all she is. Harsh, but true.
      Well, that is fine if you feel that way (sorry to hear you'd want to "slam her jaw" rather than just say "okay, lets part ways") but some people do love each other and do still swap. Why they get married is to have their primary partner who they love and can play with together. To you it is about being a fuck toy, but to them it is part of their loving relationship. Sure, swingers divorce like anyone else, but my guess is it isn't about the swinging. It's about being human.

      As I said, I realized quickly I'm not a swinger either, but I can completely see the reason people like to do it. Our natures are not monogamous, but that is what we strive for when we are in a relationship with someone who wants to be as well.
      8/10/97
      BPEL 6 3/4''
      EG 5 (mid shaft)

      11/4/97
      BPEL 7 1/8"
      EG 5 1/4"

      Restarted 8/4/09
      BPEL 7 1/4"
      EG 5 1/4"

      11/10/09
      BPEL 7 1/4+"
      NPBEL 6.6
      EG 5 1/4"
      BPFS 7 3/4"

      (After restart 3 months on Phallosan only) 8/11/20
      BPEL 7.5
      NBEL 6.75
      EG ?

      Long term goal
      BPEL 8"
      EG 6

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dingdong View Post
        If you want to screw around, why get married? Why have a girlfriend? Just call her your fuck toy because that's all she is. Harsh, but true.
        YEAH! Agree fully, even when I was younger and didnt care to find a solid relationship...just wanted to play...I still didnt want to swap around. I'm a commitment girl, if a relationship isnt "Doing it" for me to the FULLEST...Im outtie.
        A hard man is good to find.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dingdong View Post
          I would have wanted to kick the shit out of the guy for suggesting such a thing. And if my wife suggested or agreed to that, I'd divorce her and be tempted to slam her jaw with an uppercut (I wouldn't hurt her, but I would want to). But hey, that's just me. Old school. Back in the early seventies, when my father was in dental school, some of his classmates were swingers with "open" relationships. All of them are divorced today. If you want to screw around, why get married? Why have a girlfriend? Just call her your fuck toy because that's all she is. Harsh, but true.


          You know, as down right blunt as you are being here, I'd have to agree 100%. If you want to fuck around, DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have not met one person who was a swinger who's marriage ended happily. I think even married couples who introduce a third partner to the bedroom for a threesome is just begging for problems. Like it's been said, if you want to fuck more than one woman (or man), don't commit to any relationship, marital or dating.
          It's a tough job being good looking and hung :-)

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          • #20
            Hey this is a pretty cool thread!

            I would NEVER let my girlfriend get fucked by another guy. Just the idea of that makes me very violent (rawwwr ).

            Though I would like to fuck another guy's girlfriend

            I dont know, but Squid's story sounds great.
            Starting stats: October 15th, 2008 - NBPEL: 6.25' EG: 5.00'

            Current stats October 15th, 2009 - (100% erection) NBPEL: 7.20' EG: 5.375'


            Goal: NBPEL: 8' EG: 6' (objective: girth)

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            A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. -Sigmund Freud

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            • #21
              I think its pretty freekin funny that everyones down to fuck on somebody elses girl but wouldnt want to let there girl get fucked by the other dude. Have we not heard "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" its in the bible lol. Oh and "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife" SINNERS!!! Just kiddin.
              A hard man is good to find.

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              • #22
                Some of you guys might need to work on the anger management skills a bit :-)

                But seriously, I could never relate to the heavy swinging myself, but have met many over the years and find no difference in the divorce rate. In fact, I have a book called "The Lifestyle" that is a study of it and there is no difference. I have learned you can't tell anyone how to "be" when they are in love. We all have different experiences. Some hate it when their spouse looks at another and others hate it imagining their spouse is imagining another during sex (that type better learn to accept that EVERYONE does that at some point....YES, even your girlfriend). Some here say "why get married then"?..... well, it is pretty simple with these people:

                They get married because they love each other and still want to play.....together (most will not "play" separately). Marriage has nothing to do with outside sex (as most men, and women in marriages have strayed once or twice so we could say the same about them). I have experimented with it once, been the "outside guy", watched others and I choose the simple traditional marriage idea myself. But some of you guys may be mistaking what swingers do with "fucking around", ie: "cheating". They both, man and woman, want to have a partner they can have these crazy experiences with. They like watching their partners having sex. A personal example with me:

                I have had threesomes with my wife/girlfriend and I have had them with two girls who I barely knew and I can guarantee you.... the threesomes with the loved one was a ZILLION times better because you have someone you care about sharing with you. In my case, I enjoy female on female and seeing my wife getting off from another girl turned me on like crazy where watching the other girls was just "fun". So, those swingers get way more pleasure having a loved partner than just some nobodies.

                My ex wife and I didn't swing (except for the one night we gave it a shot) but we loved bringing a third girl in. She loved it and I loved it and I can tell you the sex was amazing and we had probably the funnest and sexiest times ever! We'd go on trips together, hang out in Vegas together, etc. and after the third would leave, my wife and I would have the most awesome sex for months. Our relationship certainly was more fun because of it and had zero problems. We didn't love each other anymore as a result, but we had a great time. We still laugh about it today (as friends).

                So those of you ready to break your girlfriends jaws at the thought of it, just chalk yourselves up as people that would not be happy swinging and I suppose would never, ever cheat on a loved one (kudos for that). But for some people, the experimenting was very fun and beneficial (my current girlfriend LOVES threesomes) and for others, the swapping is the only way to go.

                No matter what any of us think.

                Happy PE!
                Squid
                Senior Member
                Last edited by Squid; 10-20-2009, 07:02 PM.
                8/10/97
                BPEL 6 3/4''
                EG 5 (mid shaft)

                11/4/97
                BPEL 7 1/8"
                EG 5 1/4"

                Restarted 8/4/09
                BPEL 7 1/4"
                EG 5 1/4"

                11/10/09
                BPEL 7 1/4+"
                NPBEL 6.6
                EG 5 1/4"
                BPFS 7 3/4"

                (After restart 3 months on Phallosan only) 8/11/20
                BPEL 7.5
                NBEL 6.75
                EG ?

                Long term goal
                BPEL 8"
                EG 6

                Comment


                • #23
                  I just have to say that I have NEVER pictured anyone but the person Im with while having sex with them. I even feel guilty imagining someone else while masturbating even if what Im picturing is sex between a women and a man. I feel guilty watching porn as well...but I do it anyway
                  A hard man is good to find.

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                  • #24
                    Where do I find a woman like you???

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by phallic1 View Post
                      Where do I find a woman like you???
                      Hmm thats gonna be hard I'm kinda different but hey if you look like your avatar lets start the search at my house
                      A hard man is good to find.

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                      • #26
                        Well....I've heard too often that I look like either Mickey Rourke or Bruce Willis. Nobody says Brad Pitt....but I do have the body.

                        Should I bring wine??

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                        • #27
                          I think bb touched on it above and I do find this both interesting and amusing. Why is it that guys get freaked out and pissed off if their girl fucks another guy but it's ok if they fuck another girl? It should seem to me that what's good for the goose is good for the gander correct? I'm a guy and even I find my species to be very confusing sometimes.
                          It's a tough job being good looking and hung :-)

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                          • #28
                            Mr.B, you are right. As I get older I realized my double standards growing up and so can at least relate to that crazy anger. But as you mature and become a little more comfortable in your skin, no matter what you prefer for yourself, you rarely get that pissed about what someone else does. I realized (regardless of the anomaly of Baybabe) that almost any girl you are with will at one time or another be turned on at the very least by someone else. I know jealousy is a crazy emotion, and I have always hated the times it got a hold of me, but when you learn to put yourself in their shoes, man or woman, it does give you a different perspective. Male sexual nature though has always been fueled by testosterone and territory so that is why it crops up the way it does.
                            8/10/97
                            BPEL 6 3/4''
                            EG 5 (mid shaft)

                            11/4/97
                            BPEL 7 1/8"
                            EG 5 1/4"

                            Restarted 8/4/09
                            BPEL 7 1/4"
                            EG 5 1/4"

                            11/10/09
                            BPEL 7 1/4+"
                            NPBEL 6.6
                            EG 5 1/4"
                            BPFS 7 3/4"

                            (After restart 3 months on Phallosan only) 8/11/20
                            BPEL 7.5
                            NBEL 6.75
                            EG ?

                            Long term goal
                            BPEL 8"
                            EG 6

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              I totally agree squid. I'm also a very confident, comfortable in his own skin kind of guy. If my girl ever feels I'm not doing it for her anymore and she wants someone else, I'll wish her well. Yeah, I'd be hurt but I'll pick up the pieces and move KNOWING that it would strictly be her loss and not mine.
                              It's a tough job being good looking and hung :-)

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                              • #30
                                Quote: Girls are like phones. We love to be held, talked too but if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected!



                                You forgot to mention the long distance charges! And the frequent outages! LOL

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