Cheap Hardgainer 2inch Length, 1.5 inch girth 6-months

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

It just so happened I had a bottle that match the requirements that has been discussed in this thread.
I'm also an owner of a Bathmate.

I now much prefer using the bottle! It's much easier to have it on go into the other room and watch a movie or do something on my computer I'm surprised that I could sit in my chair and it would stay on!

This surprises me. Can't you do the same with a Bathmate?

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

bigbob i have to ask.. and im sure the answer is no, but when u pull straight out flacid, do u feel any kind of cord or tough tissue running on top of shaft from base to gland ? might feel like guitar string or thicker. it will be obvious if u have it no need to search for more then 3 seconds
im thinking u do not since u gained so well.
thanks !

I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly, but yes, I have two cords on top. One left and right. These are 2 of the tendons we need to lengthen (along with everything else inside). I believe there are two on bottom as well, though I don't see those when I pull.

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

Bigbob you should get a silicone one. The suction is so much stronger it makes my member ache after 12 hours. The SPL in it is almost the same as my erect. However the engorgement girth wise is same as the tpe

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You said hanging and traction didn't work for you.

Were you doing these with Tpe still?
I'm thinking the tpe is the secret sauce

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

You said hanging and traction didn't work for you.

Were you doing these with Tpe still?
I'm thinking the tpe is the secret sauce

I was not wearing a tpe during the time that I did hanging and the traction device. The tpe was all part the redesign.

In the redesign, I wanted an element of traction all day long. All day traction appeared to have the most studies that were not sponsored by a product maker..so I tried the banding. I wanted a cheap and effective alternative to the bathmate, as that appears to have the greatest reviews here....so bottling. And I wanted something to end turtling and heal in an extended state. So...the tpe and nightly downward fowfers.

I believe duration and warmth is key. I just didn't feel jelqs had long enough duration for my body to respond. I didn't want to pull any harder and I just wasn't seeing any progress. Months of jelqs did not eliminate my turtle or lengthen my manhood. Hanging hurt like a bitch and only pulled in one direction...down.. and only for relatively short periods. I believed that I had to lengthen all four ligaments for long periods to see progress. Wrapping didn't provide suction to keep it plump and was a pain in the ass to put on and off.

Once I felt the gentle pull of the band as I walked...it felt good...there was no way I was going back to weights or the crappy knockoff traction device I bought.

That is not to say that those traditional tools can't help somebody. They just didn't help me.

The tpe achieved the first and easiest results by ending turtling. You may be right that it is the secret sauce. It is definitely an essential ingredient. It might have helped achieve results had I used the tpe with more traditional tools like jelqs, weights or other traction. Maybe someone else can try it. I just didn't enjoy those. I like banding, bottling, fowfers and the tpe.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

Bigbob you should get a silicone one. The suction is so much stronger it makes my member ache after 12 hours. The SPL in it is almost the same as my erect. However the engorgement girth wise is same as the tpe

When this tpe wears out, I'll order a silicone one. I just used a tpe because that was what I had bought for me and my wife.

What brand are you using?

[vamaci Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2020 Find all posts View Profile Close vamaci]

I was not wearing a tpe during the time that I did hanging and the traction device. The tpe was all part the redesign.

The tpe achieved the first and easiest results by ending turtling. You may be right that it is the secret sauce. It is definitely an essential ingredient. It might have helped achieve results had I used the tpe with more traditional tools like jelqs, weights or other traction. Maybe someone else can try it. I just didn't enjoy those. I like banding, bottling, fowfers and the tpe.

Hey bob, recently I've noticed that even with my TPE, my dick turtles too hard sometime to keep it on and it keeps falling off. I was thinking maybe I overdid it with PE and I'm taking a few days off.

It may also be because it's getting worn out, been wearing it for around 2-3 months now and it's a lot more stretched than initially.

Has that happened to you? How did you deal with it.

Also, my goddamn bottle broke! x) Buying a new one on Monday - bottling has been awesome for me overall.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

Hey bob, recently I've noticed that even with my TPE, my dick turtles too hard sometime to keep it on and it keeps falling off. I was thinking maybe I overdid it with PE and I'm taking a few days off.

It may also be because it's getting worn out, been wearing it for around 2-3 months now and it's a lot more stretched than initially.

Has that happened to you? How did you deal with it.

Also, my goddamn bottle broke! x) Buying a new one on Monday - bottling has been awesome for me overall.

Yes, if you put on the tpe when you're hard, when you shrink...and if the tpe has worn out some, it gets lose. I wear a doc-johnson over tpe and it doesn't slip off. For me, a worn out tpe was not a sign of overdoing it with pe. Signs of that are pain or discomfort. In those cases, I let it heal in the tpe and took a break from bottling and banding. Listen to your body. If it hurts, stop.

Yep, broken bottle....welcome to the world of bottling. When I went to the dollar store I'd buy 5 bottles so I'd be stocked. Now I just put a piece of chewing gum on the hole.

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

When this tpe wears out, I'll order a silicone one. I just used a tpe because that was what I had bought for me and my wife.

What brand are you using?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPoI8Kr

I wonder, do you think only tpe could result in gains?

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

Nvm, I thought about it and I would never only do that lol.

Bigbob have u tried wearing the tpe 24 hrs a day?

Did it result in smaller flaccid / eq loss

[Two Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Two]

When this tpe wears out, I'll order a silicone one. I just used a tpe because that was what I had bought for me and my wife.

What brand are you using?

Just read all 30 pages. Good work.

Question: Should I buy the TPE + the Doc Johnson to keep the TPE from falling off? I *do not* plan on banding, just Bottling and TPE.

I'll be making my way to the dollar store tomorrow. Hopefully I make it there before the rest of PEGym buys out these waterbottles =p


@lunapt does that one from aliexpress work pretty well compared to the ones bigbob recommended?

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

Silicone is twice as thick as tpe so it holds a stronger vacuum. Tpe holds 90% of my SPL and silicone even more.

I don't know if it's 'better' for gains because it may be lesser vacuum

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

Lesser vacuum = less gains? Idk which is better.

But silicone holds a better SPL

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

I mean silicone holds better vacuum.

Why can't I edit messages? Lol

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPoI8Kr

I wonder, do you think only tpe could result in gains?

Flaccid, yes. Erect, I would guess not. You need something to put you in extended/stretched position for length (jelq, ads) and girth (bathmate bottle).