Cheap Hardgainer 2inch Length, 1.5 inch girth 6-months

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

Thanks Bob. I'm definitely not girthy. I wouldn't say everything is tight, but there is definitely enough elastic force to constrict bloodflow on a flaccid penis. I guess I'll just do 30 min sessions with rest in between just to be on the safe side.

You must be home alone. I couldn't run to the bathroom every 30 mins at work, they'd think I had a problem.

Normally I'd make it 1-2 hours before I'd change directions.

I would guess checking every 30 minutes should not slow your progress. Always better safe than sorry.

[BB7+ Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BB7+]

I started doing the banding and water bottle back in April 2019. I was pretty consistent and went through my 4 TPE condoms. I ended up cutting the tip off so I did not have to remove them to pee. The water bottle gave me about .20 gains I. Girth and the band gave me .35” gain in BPSFL but only .1 in BPEL. I added another band so it was a double and measured the tension on my fish weighing scale it was now 9 lbs of pull I did this for another 2-3 months this summer working from home made it easy, but no further gains. The bottle worked well, but I guess I’m a tough gainer. Only gains in total .80 inches in 2 years 1 month. I’m now trying my extender again with heat applied during the extension and will keep doing the water bottle because it works great and feels good

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

I have been doing the Water bottle thing for 2 months and the stretchy band for about 3 weeks. I have gained 1/8” in Girth which I am fairly happy with. Measurement was taken after 4 days of complete rest. We was only about a 7-8 on 1-10 scale so perhaps it would be a smidge more at a 10. I have been doing PE for 2 years now and prior to this girth gains we non existent. I have not seen any length gains yet but feel hopeful. I was doing the QEP extender but only able to log 4-6 hours because it was very uncomfortable and hard to wear at work. The band with nylon strap I created is comfortable enough to wear with out the TPE condom so I usually do. I have been logging 6-10 hours a day 4-5 days a week with it without the TPE. The main reason I don’t use the TPE is I hate having to try to get a semi while at work to put it on, and it makes my dick head cone shaped so when I try to pee it goes every where , shoes, floor, pants sometimes when I stand, so I guess if I learn how to put it on without being partially erect and sit while I pee, those problems could be eliminated.

All in all, I’m going to stick with it at least another few months because like Bob said, it’s got to be comfortable to be something you continue, and even though I saw a .5” gain from my extender over an 8 month period, I did not enjoy the process. The water bottle is very enjoyable, and the little tug of each step is also pretty enjoyable.

I started doing the banding and water bottle back in April 2019. I was pretty consistent and went through my 4 TPE condoms. I ended up cutting the tip off so I did not have to remove them to pee. The water bottle gave me about .20 gains I. Girth and the band gave me .35” gain in BPSFL but only .1 in BPEL. I added another band so it was a double and measured the tension on my fish weighing scale it was now 9 lbs of pull I did this for another 2-3 months this summer working from home made it easy, but no further gains. The bottle worked well, but I guess I’m a tough gainer. Only gains in total .80 inches in 2 years 1 month. I’m now trying my extender again with heat applied during the extension and will keep doing the water bottle because it works great and feels good

Congrats on the gains you did see. I went back to read your previous posts. It seems you haven't gained much at all since the first couple months.

[lunapt Member Find all posts View Profile Close lunapt]

I thought the tpe was the game changer but imo it is absolutely the way you're using the water pump.

Dynamic/pulse pumping.

Google it and you will find a lot of resources of people who pump up and down in many reps/cycles who report fast gains!

I use a ctc 4000 to pump and down every 10s 6hg to 13.5hg and I've gained 1/8th inch EL in a month.

This water pump is great cheap way to replicate that in exchange for manual work vs electronic.

Just my 2c

[James gitts Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close James gitts]

How hard or soft should the plastic bottle be? Is it the same material as a Powerade bottle? what do you mean by creating a vacuum? Also how doesn’t the water just spill out of the bottle as there are bound to be some spillage ?
Thanks any help appreciated and congratulations on your impressive gains

[ButteredCabbage Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ButteredCabbage]

How much be vacuum do you imagine is caused by the water bottle?

When I use my dry pump I can measure how much vacuum I want. I can do up to for kpa in bursts but it doesn't feel good so I try not to do it much. Fear of dmg. I can do 30 kpa for about 15 minutes. I can do 20kpa for about 30 an minutes but that causes capillary spots..

So to hold it for an hour, without it popping off due to lack of vaccuum, I'd imagine it would be a lesser kpa than the 20, but more than whatever the minimum is to keep it from breaking the seal...

So I guess that's what I'm looking to figure out.. what the kpa for a safe hour of vaccuum would be.

[ButteredCabbage Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ButteredCabbage]

Actually right after asking that I was able to do an hour. 20min at 10kpa. Another 20 at 14kpa. The. Back to 10 kpa for 10 min and then another 20 kpa for 10 min.

Seemed to plump up well with little to no discoloration or discomfort. Maybe this is similar to the bottle?

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

How hard or soft should the plastic bottle be? Is it the same material as a Powerade bottle? what do you mean by creating a vacuum? Also how doesn’t the water just spill out of the bottle as there are bound to be some spillage ?
Thanks any help appreciated and congratulations on your impressive gains

It needs to be hard enough that it tries to maintain its shape. Next time I see a powerade bottle I'll buy and let you know. My gut reaction is that its too narrow for me anymore. Most water bottles are two soft. Some are too rigid. I literally squeeze the bottles in the store to see which ones have the best potential.

When you squeeze the bottle it removes air. If you cover the top with your hand and release the squeeze you can feel your hand being sucked/pulled into the bottle, a vaccuum is trying to suck in air, but you blocks it. Now instead of your hand, put your penis in there.

If you fill the bottle only half way with water and squeeze out just the air, there is some, but very little spillage.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

Actually right after asking that I was able to do an hour. 20min at 10kpa. Another 20 at 14kpa. The. Back to 10 kpa for 10 min and then another 20 kpa for 10 min.

Seemed to plump up well with little to no discoloration or discomfort. Maybe this is similar to the bottle?

Sounds good. I don't know the kpa. All I know is that as I try to squeeze the dents out of the bottle and then squeeze at a different places around the bottle, I can feel the bottle vacuuming my penis differently with each squeeze. It feels amazing and I come out fat as fuck.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

I thought the tpe was the game changer but imo it is absolutely the way you're using the water pump.

Dynamic/pulse pumping.

Google it and you will find a lot of resources of people who pump up and down in many reps/cycles who report fast gains!

I use a ctc 4000 to pump and down every 10s 6hg to 13.5hg and I've gained 1/8th inch EL in a month.

This water pump is great cheap way to replicate that in exchange for manual work vs electronic.

Just my 2c

I agree that raising and lowering the pressure over and over again is important. Maybe one day I'll buy a pump and compare, it would have to be a pump I can use water in.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

So life has been busy and I haven't had much time for pe, but I'm going to have a little free time coming up here where I can be a little distracted.

I was thinking of how I could do it a little differently this time, just to make it interesting.

So I banded in only one direction last week, all day...to the left. I had noticed in the past when I banded in one direction that my penis would then tilt slightly in that direction. After banding in both left and right directions, the tilt would be gone.

I assumed that it tilts left when I banded left because the ligaments are stretched on one side and not the other, giving the slight tilt. So my question was, how long would that tilt last? So here it is 4 days later and my penis still tilts slightly left, and though I didn't measure, it looks that it is tilted by the same amount. Its not a huge tilt, but its noticeable. So I'll just band right for a day, and I'm pretty confident the tilt will disappear.

So specificity of angle is very important. I gues this goes to the loss of tug and other theories. Banding down and hanging are great if want to increase your hang. Banding left and right will loosen up and add length in conjuction with banding done.... but are not as specific as it could be.....ideally I would band straight out.

But I can't do that in my pants as I walk around all day, not to mention, what would I tie it to? I think this is where jelqing has an advantage over other exercise types, because it stretches at any angle, and most of us emphasize straight out. The problem is it requires all my focus and my hands both of witch tire, and for me, I don't like the feel, and I have shit to do. I'm not jelqing for 2 hours.

So, what if I tied one end of the band to my desk, and the other end I loop around the doc johnson on my penis. This way, I stretch straight out. I can change the tension by stepping forward, back or side to side...and my hands are free to work.

So I tried it....and I like it so far. I wrote this while I was in banded traction to my desk. My goal is to give this a whirl for a couple months and then report back.

[Becausewhynot Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Becausewhynot]

Woow I liked the bottle technique. I was thinking of trying it with a ketchup bottle, but I didn't need it.Because I made an air pump out of a silicon can and I fill it with water and vacuum it. But what I'm wondering is, don't you need to increase the vacuum? How did you increase vakum with this bottle?

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So, what if I tied one end of the band to my desk, and the other end I loop around the doc johnson on my penis. This way, I stretch straight out. I can change the tension by stepping forward, back or side to side...and my hands are free to work.

So I tried it....and I like it so far. I wrote this while I was in banded traction to my desk. My goal is to give this a whirl for a couple months and then report back.

There are a lot of people that have done a variation of this through fulcrum hanging. They'll screw a pulley into the back of the underside of their desk, and run a cable/cord from their hanger through the pulley and down to whatever amount of weights they want to use. I'll probably be doing this myself whenever I decide I want to focus on the SO angle.

There's also a guy named dustpan who I believe was a top gainer that does something more like what you're doing, independent of weights (although I believe he does hang crazy heavy IIRC). He basically will tie his hanger setup to a nearby doorknob, and lean against his cock with his bodyweight in various directions. I'm sure you can imagine in your mind how you could hit various different angles this way. Throwing on a tension meter would also allow for some consistency with the force used and a force progression plan as needed.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

Woow I liked the bottle technique. I was thinking of trying it with a ketchup bottle, but I didn't need it.Because I made an air pump out of a silicon can and I fill it with water and vacuum it. But what I'm wondering is, don't you need to increase the vacuum? How did you increase vakum with this bottle?

Any type of bottle will do that has the right tension, volume and opening diameter. One thing, I have tried non drinking bottles (like mayonyase jar) and the lips is not rounded for comfort like a drinking bottle, so it was too uncomfortable. Experiment to find the right bottle for you, just be careful. If you find a particular bottle that works for you, please share it here.

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

There are a lot of people that have done a variation of this through fulcrum hanging. They'll screw a pulley into the back of the underside of their desk, and run a cable/cord from their hanger through the pulley and down to whatever amount of weights they want to use. I'll probably be doing this myself whenever I decide I want to focus on the SO angle.

There's also a guy named dustpan who I believe was a top gainer that does something more like what you're doing, independent of weights (although I believe he does hang crazy heavy IIRC). He basically will tie his hanger setup to a nearby doorknob, and lean against his cock with his bodyweight in various directions. I'm sure you can imagine in your mind how you could hit various different angles this way. Throwing on a tension meter would also allow for some consistency with the force used and a force progression plan as needed.

Hey great post. Thanks for the heads up. I guess you buy a tension meter at a home improvement store?