Guess who's got an 8 incher? This guy!

[PhallicPhun Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhallicPhun]

Started the beginning of June at 6.25 BPEL, 5.5 MEG, 6.0 BEG, and am closing out November at 8.0 BPEL, 6.0 MEG, 6.5 BEG.

This journey oddly started researching natural blood pressure management and generally improving the nutrition in my diet. I clicked on an ad, went down the rabbit hole, and gained 1.75 inches in 6 months.

I realize my gains are on the high end and may be a little difficult to believe, but if anything I'm doing, or copying from what others had success with, can help anyone, I'll try to outline what I did.

Firstly, I have a lot of private time working from home with no kids at home and a wife that doesn't work at home. She knows I'm doing PE but it's still weird if anyone is home. I'm average height, slightly overweight, reasonably healthy, in my early 50s and exercise about 2 days per week. I started girthy so everything I've done mostly targets length.

I started with a Penomet pump and saw very immediate rapid gains in girth and a little length. I did not want my little soldier looking like a pop can, so I used a QEP for length for a while but without significant modification, for me it was a torture device. I replaced it with an MOS sillistretcher and have used that ever since. I also use an MOS length hanger and a Mityvac pump.

Biggest take away: Never let that little bastard turtle. When you're not doing exercises, get that thing in a sleeve.

Next biggest take away: take at least a day or two to rest. Wearing a sleeve with a very small amount of tension while junior is recuperating made a big difference.

Third biggest takaway: except for hanging, time seems to make a bigger difference than tension. I tried two weeks of crazy tension in the ADS and there was no difference in gains over moderate tension for the same amount of time.

Fourth biggest takeaway: heat helps with everything. I recently purchased an IR therapy device but haven't tried it yet (waiting for it to arrive).

My routine isn't really a routine. If something isn't working I change things up. Currently it's pretty simple:

• Warm up for about 20 minutes.
• Alternate Sillistretcher 1 hr, pump 5-10 minutes, 3 to 4 times per day. Apply low heat while in ADS, extreme stretching in all directions about 5 minutes.
• Hang 15 lbs, 15 to 20 minutes.
• Pump one more time, 5 minutes.
• Anti-turtling sleeve made from overlapping sleeves for weight and heat retainment the rest of the day, often while sleeping.
• Rest one or two days.
• Perform manual stretches occasionally the remainder of the day, usually when taking a rest from the anti-turtling sleeve.

I rarely jelq. My willy is pretty sensitive and I just find it uncomfortable.

The first three months I saw rapid gains, but now I'm seeing about 1 to 2 mm of gains per month. I'd like to get to 9.5 BPEL some day. Any more than that and sex would get uncomfortable.

[needmas Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close needmas]

Awesome gains!

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Well played!

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Congratulations on the accomplishment!

[WantMore12 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WantMore12]

I am sort of heading down the same route as you overall, which I have come to the same conclusion independent of you. However, I am going to stretch/jelq to get the easy gains first … it worked the first time for me. But I concur with your takeaways. Good luck getting to 9.5. Thats a tough road for some.

Let me ask about your anti-turtle stretch. How often or long did you wear a sleeve? My thought is all day, but let him hang free sleeping. I still have not decided the best approach, and can be swayed.

WM12

[PhallicPhun Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhallicPhun]

I am sort of heading down the same route as you overall, which I have come to the same conclusion independent of you. However, I am going to stretch/jelq to get the easy gains first … it worked the first time for me. But I concur with your takeaways. Good luck getting to 9.5. Thats a tough road for some.

Let me ask about your anti-turtle stretch. How often or long did you wear a sleeve? My thought is all day, but let him hang free sleeping. I still have not decided the best approach, and can be swayed.

WM12

9.5 may be wishful thinking but no harm in trying. I used to only wear a sleeve for a few hours at a time with long breaks but now that I have something comfortable that’s also working, I can wear it all day except to pee. I wear it while sleeping maybe half the time or less. If I get a woody overnight it gets uncomfortable and I just take it off. The sleeve is a very soft silicone one I get off eBay for pretty cheap. Over that I use an MOS sillisleeve cut to about 3/4 flaccid length to keep the base snug and an MOS durosleeve behind the glans for both weight and to keep the end snug. This double bagging holds more body heat in. After a week of using this setup my flaccid length started increasing and I started cementing gains in erect length within another week. I gained 1 mm in about 3 weeks and I’m pretty sure the sleeve played a big part in that. I wear my sleeve all day every day now.

[Dreadsteed Senior Member Member of the Month March 2022 Find all posts View Profile Close Dreadsteed]

I used to wrap with a vinyl sheet and some random thick cloth cord I had, it was a nightmare to put on and didn't hold heat in well. I recently got a phallosan just to try and stay stretched for more time - but puts a bit too much pressure on my glans for my liking I think I'm gonna try out 2-3 of these silicone sleeves if I can find a good size and hope for the best. If they hold in heat well and aren't too hard to put on/take off they sound infinitely better for stretched recov. And I think 9.5 with consistency and diligence isn't out of reach for you. At least not as long as it's responding well to training. You got a solid system down and steady gains coming in. 8 is already a ton tho, gotta make sure your lady can handle the gains you make too.

[PhallicPhun Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhallicPhun]

I used to wrap with a vinyl sheet and some random thick cloth cord I had, it was a nightmare to put on and didn't hold heat in well. I recently got a phallosan just to try and stay stretched for more time - but puts a bit too much pressure on my glans for my liking I think I'm gonna try out 2-3 of these silicone sleeves if I can find a good size and hope for the best. If they hold in heat well and aren't too hard to put on/take off they sound infinitely better for stretched recov. And I think 9.5 with consistency and diligence isn't out of reach for you. At least not as long as it's responding well to training. You got a solid system down and steady gains coming in. 8 is already a ton tho, gotta make sure your lady can handle the gains you make too.

I have an MOS sillistretcher which is similar. If I use a lot of tension it will temporarily deform my glans and cause some soreness but if I just back it off it works well. My glans is big enough in comparison to my shaft so it gets a good hold. One thing I've found is that you really need to jam your head into the bell and work out as much air as possible before applying the vacuum. I don't know how easy that is with the Phallosan but the sillistretcher I just peel the sheath around the bell away to allow the air to escape then turn the screw to apply vacuum.

I definitely don't want to go past 9.5 unless I get divorced and marry an Amazon My wife is already telling me to be careful but she also likes to brag about my size which is very encouraging.

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I've recently been using the LG girth bands which is by far the best solution for anti-turtling. The caveat is that you need 6 inches from base to the back of the glans (stretched out unless you're huge) to get two of them on. For me that means they're butt up against each other with just a very small gap unless I have an erection. Over that I put a very soft sleeve. It keeps it as stretched as possible and I can wear it all day. It will occasionally slip past the glans but they never just come off. I've stopped using anything at night since morning wood can get pretty uncomfortable especially with the slightly tighter fit of the girth bands. I swear that lactobaccillus reuteri yogurt I've been eating regularly has seriously increased my libido. I'm 52 and only woke up with erections maybe once a week at most. Now it's every morning and sometimes it's rock hard. Since I've switched to mostly high intensity manual exercises and pumping, I think this setup is helping cement my gains better albeit much slower than the first six months.

[Dreadsteed Senior Member Member of the Month March 2022 Find all posts View Profile Close Dreadsteed]

I can see what you meant by needing to have the soft sleeve stretched out. I bought 2 of the MoS silisleev2 1” sleeves and they were like a death grip haha. Gonna have to see if I can stretch them over a pipe or something long enough to deform them a bit to be able to use them. It does hold heat pretty good though. How do the girth bands hold heat in comparison in your opinion?

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

I can see what you meant by needing to have the soft sleeve stretched out. I bought 2 of the MoS silisleev2 1” sleeves and they were like a death grip haha. Gonna have to see if I can stretch them over a pipe or something long enough to deform them a bit to be able to use them. It does hold heat pretty good though. How do the girth bands hold heat in comparison in your opinion?

We offer 4 Girth Band sizes & five sleeve sizes. Since we use the highest quality medical grade silicon and wall thickness is only 1/8", the body heat transfer makes them feel like they are part of you.
I can stretch a 1.25" sleeve over a 2 3/8" diameter baseball bat. So be assured you won't feel a death grip that cuts off circulation as long as you pick the appropriate size.

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[Kickstand42 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kickstand42]

I've recently been using the LG girth bands which is by far the best solution for anti-turtling. The caveat is that you need 6 inches from base to the back of the glans (stretched out unless you're huge) to get two of them on. For me that means they're butt up against each other with just a very small gap unless I have an erection. Over that I put a very soft sleeve. It keeps it as stretched as possible and I can wear it all day. It will occasionally slip past the glans but they never just come off. I've stopped using anything at night since morning wood can get pretty uncomfortable especially with the slightly tighter fit of the girth bands. I swear that lactobaccillus reuteri yogurt I've been eating regularly has seriously increased my libido. I'm 52 and only woke up with erections maybe once a week at most. Now it's every morning and sometimes it's rock hard. Since I've switched to mostly high intensity manual exercises and pumping, I think this setup is helping cement my gains better albeit much slower than the first six months.

Do you wear the bands on rest days too? Or are rest days entirely off.

[PhallicPhun Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhallicPhun]

Do you wear the bands on rest days too? Or are rest days entirely off.

I wear them every day even on rest days. I just stopped wearing anything at night due to fairly regular nocturnal erections.

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I can see what you meant by needing to have the soft sleeve stretched out. I bought 2 of the MoS silisleev2 1” sleeves and they were like a death grip haha. Gonna have to see if I can stretch them over a pipe or something long enough to deform them a bit to be able to use them. It does hold heat pretty good though. How do the girth bands hold heat in comparison in your opinion?

I'd say by themselves pretty well but two of them cover just about all of my flaccid shaft. YMMV. The sleeve I use is an el-cheapo I bought off of e-Bay that's really soft and stretchy. The MOS sleeves are a bit stiff over the bands as you found out. It stretches my flaccid penis out to about 6.5 or 7 inches so I pretty much have to run it down one leg due to the stiffness of the two bands right up against each other or it looks like I have a raging hardon. As long as I do that I can wear it in public no problem with baggy pants. I imagine you're very familiar with that problem though haha.

[Dreadsteed Senior Member Member of the Month March 2022 Find all posts View Profile Close Dreadsteed]

We offer 4 Girth Band sizes & five sleeve sizes. Since we use the highest quality medical grade silicon and wall thickness is only 1/8", the body heat transfer makes them feel like they are part of you.
I can stretch a 1.25" sleeve over a 2 3/8" diameter baseball bat. So be assured you won't feel a death grip that cuts off circulation as long as you pick the appropriate size.

How tight a stretch is that on the bat though? With warm air and good blood flow my resting flaccid circumference around the thickest part of my shaft is about 18.75cm. If my basic math serves me correctly, that's about 7.38 inches, divide by Pi (3.14), and my diameter should be about 2.35 inches while flaccid. Which does look about right when looking straight down with a measuring tape, maybe a little less. I can stretch this 1" silicone sleeve bigger than my flaccid as well, but my flaccid is certainly squishier than that steel bat and it compresses back down pretty hard on me and occludes blood flow. Sleeves might just be unpractical for me, and I would be slightly worried about gaining some girth from the pressure which I can't afford with my lady - so I'll probably drop this idea. Still coming after those tapes though!

I'd say by themselves pretty well but two of them cover just about all of my flaccid shaft. YMMV. The sleeve I use is an el-cheapo I bought off of e-Bay that's really soft and stretchy. The MOS sleeves are a bit stiff over the bands as you found out. It stretches my flaccid penis out to about 6.5 or 7 inches so I pretty much have to run it down one leg due to the stiffness of the two bands right up against each other or it looks like I have a raging hardon. As long as I do that I can wear it in public no problem with baggy pants. I imagine you're very familiar with that problem though haha.

Yeah they are a bit stiffer than I would have thought. I'm sure heating them and stretching would wear down the elasticity faster. But I can also just cut them into rings or strips and use them for something else, so not a total loss. Oh yes, this problem is definitely something I've been finding solutions to for a long time. Luckily mine doesn't strain against the pants to go straight like I imagine a silicone bundle would try to do. Baggy pants are always the go. I own and wear nothing but long basketball pants for around the house with the lady and baggy sweat pants for out in public. Binding it to your thigh always sucks but it is usually the best option out in public, especially if you're at the gym or somewhere you'll be moving a lot. Probably not the best idea to wear it at the gym in the first place though. A getaway girth band could take someone out haha.