WOW! Record gains?? :)

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Coffee made a simple mistake in measuring, not a large crime. The biggest crime in this thread was the way he was treated by some of the members here, including myself. Now he has some pictures, we have all seen them and the guy has a good sized weener. He can PE and get a bigger weener if he wishes. We all know he knows how to measure properly and there will be no need to question him.
Good luck with your continued gains, great job on the accomplishment you have already made and best of luck.

[kallea Member Find all posts View Profile Close kallea]

Be happy if he gained, not angry

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Be happy if he gained, not angry

Now that's the spirit; rep for you kallea!

[TheSnitch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TheSnitch]

Someone on this thread made a statement "If you believe Going411by7 then why can't you believe this guy?" 11by7 did gain at a similar rate.

Healthy skepticism is cool, outright hostility should be reserved for spammers and people trying to sell stuff.

However, Coffee does need to take away from this thread that stories of big gains give big hope to a lot of guys, and in some cases unrealistic expectations - so do your best to practice good measuring techniques and data recording.

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

Roast????.....Come on now Cusp. ..Sure, he could be the nicest guy in the world ....and more luck to him if he is ....But most of us here are just trying to exercise proper judgement and ask the questions that needed to be asked.......

Just sayin ok ....

[kallea Member Find all posts View Profile Close kallea]

Now that's the spirit; rep for you kallea!

Haha

[Stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stumpy]

Roast????.....Come on now Cusp. ..Sure, he could be the nicest guy in the world ....and more luck to him if he is ....But most of us here are just trying to exercise proper judgement and ask the questions that needed to be asked.......

Just sayin ok ....

+1

This thread has taken a disappointing turn. It was members who first challenged what was proven to be implausible and potentially dangerous claims. And now we have mods, who later made similar claims, taking the moral high ground on Coffee's 'treatment'.

I've no doubt we'll see this thread closed soon. But I go back to an earlier concern of mine. If a noob comes here and does a search for "fast gains", "best gains" or "record gains" ... this thread will currently be returned as 1, 2, and 3 respectively.

And I have to say, I don't recall Coffee being treated anywhere near the way he would have been treated if he'd made the same claims to a bunch of guys in a locker room, ball game, or pub anywhere around the world.

Hopefully my last post in this thread.

[Closed039 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed039]

Well, since his gains are real and the only apparent issue is his flawed measuring technique, I will be sure to refer all noobs here. It makes sense...most people just want to gain as much as possible as fast as possible, and since this guy has obviously done that, we should all follow in his shoes.

[Zman007 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zman007]

Well, since his gains are real and the only apparent issue is his flawed measuring technique, I will be sure to refer all noobs here. It makes sense...most people just want to gain as much as possible as fast as possible, and since this guy has obviously done that, we should all follow in his shoes.

The guy has probably gained, but no one has any idea how much. Seriously, no one, not even the OP has any accurate idea of how much he has gained. He obviously had no idea how to measure and makes all of our speculation a moot point. He measured incorrectly and likely grossly over reported gains. He presented his claim to gains, he was challenged by some, defended by others and the whole thing has turned a bit ugly.

But, none of that changes the fact that his routine is still too intense for beginners. If beginners flock to that routine there will be injuries and a lot of discouraged impotent guys out there. Bottom line, that is not the point of this forum.

I think it is time for this thread to be closed.

[TTBB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TTBB]

I agree its time for this thread to be closed. Its run its course and is going no where new.
To the OP ..Welcome to the Gym.