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  • #16
    That's pretty rude of you, hawkua. Pegasus knows what he's talking about and has been working with reverse kegels for a long time. Many guys here do them. YOU may not think they exist, but that would put you in a minority here. So you might not want to be so aggressive in telling other people that they don't know what they are talking about.

    I think everyone knows that reverse kegels feel very different from regular kegels, and involve contacting different muscles. Most of those muscles, however, are part of the pelvic floor. The point that Pegasus has been making for some time is that it is important not to overdevelop some muscles relative to others. Hence if you do a lot of kegels, you should also do reverse kegels so you don't end up with imbalances in development between different muscles (rather like needing to do work on both your hamstrings and quads if you are doing leg work, rather than just exercising one group but not the other).

    It all makes sense to me.

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    • #17
      Oh, and I should mention that I realized when I first started doing reverse kegels that it was an action that I recognized -- I have often done reverse kegels to speed the onset of my organism once past a certain point during sex. Exercising those muscles will, I think, just add to my muscle tone and ability to please both myself and my lover.....

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Batwoman View Post
        That's pretty rude of you, hawkua. Pegasus knows what he's talking about and has been working with reverse kegels for a long time. Many guys here do them. YOU may not think they exist, but that would put you in a minority here. So you might not want to be so aggressive in telling other people that they don't know what they are talking about.

        I think everyone knows that reverse kegels feel very different from regular kegels, and involve contacting different muscles. Most of those muscles, however, are part of the pelvic floor. The point that Pegasus has been making for some time is that it is important not to overdevelop some muscles relative to others. Hence if you do a lot of kegels, you should also do reverse kegels so you don't end up with imbalances in development between different muscles (rather like needing to do work on both your hamstrings and quads if you are doing leg work, rather than just exercising one group but not the other).

        It all makes sense to me.
        reverse kegels in fact are just pelvic exercises for women and not men unless there is a specific condition they face like incontinence the pelvic floor also extends beyond the sexual organs and surely can cause problems if one exceeds the exercises so is no surprise that misinformation may be the problem.
        A reverse kegel is no other than simply relaxation of the pelvic floor muscles in reverse so there is science there is it?
        I can control my ejaculation through relaxation and breathing techniques just as successful as reverse kegels if you may choose to call it that way.
        I do not mean to offend Pegasus in any way personally however I do challenge his views and way of thinking reverse kegels are the wholly trail of sexual healing.

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        • #19
          I think huwka in your ignorance you have made my point. Reverse kegels have been in wide use here for many purposes, including the treatment of premature ejaculation and for male multi orgasm. That mainstream says things like they don't exist, would be amusing if it wern't tragic. Read the threads, learn them, do them ,experience them for yourself. There usefullness is there for you to read about ,methodolgy etc.

          Wholly trail?? I do think reverse kegel are an important and usefull tool, as are kegels and other techniques you will read about here ,if you empty your cup and are willing to learn.

          Sorry for the thread jack.

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          • #20
            Reverse Kegels in women, according to gyno surgeons, should be limited. I use them the same way batwomen does.
            But when a women pushes out, and does it often, she can really cause issues with prolapse of the bladder, uterus and rectum.
            But like Peg is saying if you are strong on kegels then the reverse kegels balance out.

            Im older so I dont want to actually do reverse kegels as an exercise. I do serious number of kegels and am very tight. I can squeeze so tight on the fingers or peen it makes him nervous lol I only do that when I want to lock him in place, when my mouth is so dry I cant get the words out to stay right there lol

            Anyway it is true. Women are not taught about kegels in any doctors office until they have a child. Then still only told to do them for a period of time. Not sure why its not more main stream. I wish men and women were told about these exercises from puberty it would really help their physical and sexual life for years to come.
            The Dick is the Best Toy Ever!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
              I think huwka in your ignorance you have made my point. Reverse kegels have been in wide use here for many purposes, including the treatment of premature ejaculation and for male multi orgasm. That mainstream says things like they don't exist, would be amusing if it wern't tragic. Read the threads, learn them, do them ,experience them for yourself. There usefullness is there for you to read about ,methodolgy etc.

              Wholly trail?? I do think reverse kegel are an important and usefull tool, as are kegels and other techniques you will read about here ,if you empty your cup and are willing to learn.

              Sorry for the thread jack.
              First of all I do not accept the term ignorant as befitting my personal intellectual capacity, Rest assure I have lot more qualifications that you. As moderator you should not use such colourful language to address me. Do I challenge your point of view Yes I am.
              On the other hand I do not question kegel techniques for women practiced in any hospital or clinics, I know that they are widely accepted practices all over the world.

              The word "mainstream" as often used by you and does not make sense to me. Medicine has its especialisations, disciplines, standard codes of practice and ethical codes to follow.

              Healing techniques are many outside conventional treatments and if you are optimist and subscribe to such techniques it is fine by me. However, you cannot refer as "mainstream medicine" I would suggest you use the term alternative treatments as against conventional treatment.

              No heart feelings I thought to make few corrections here

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              • #22
                When you are ignorant on a subject ,you have little knowledge on it, as you have demonstrated with reverse kegels.
                I am not quite sure what you position is on them, it seems to vary between they don't exist, to they are for women only to god knows what. In any case the cure is simply to learn.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                  When you are ignorant on a subject ,you have little knowledge on it, as you have demonstrated with reverse kegels.
                  I am not quite sure what you position is on them, it seems to vary between they don't exist, to they are for women only to god knows what. In any case the cure is simply to learn.
                  First of all I ask you to retract the word ignorant especially moderating a board it is not appropiate by trying to bellitle my persona and for a moderator to use such term you not doing yourself a disfavour.

                  My position is clear regarding kegels or k-gels as often referred by some practitioners they do exist and they have a place well established in conventional medicine, also reversing does exist for women push! push! push! in childbirth.
                  In men it is not a term used nor accepted because physiologically and anatomically both sexes are different.
                  In men tightness, brain conditioning lead to mastubation and porn addition causes the muscles to stay tense not relaxing their pelvic floor muscles.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by hawkua View Post
                    First of all I ask you to retract the word ignorant especially moderating a board it is not appropiate by trying to bellitle my persona and for a moderator to use such term you not doing yourself a disfavour.

                    My position is clear regarding kegels or k-gels as often referred by some practitioners they do exist and they have a place well established in conventional medicine, also reversing does exist for women push! push! push! in childbirth.
                    In men it is not a term used nor accepted because physiologically and anatomically both sexes are different.
                    In men tightness, brain conditioning lead to mastubation and porn addition causes the muscles to stay tense not relaxing their pelvic floor muscles.
                    Ignorant means not knowing, it's not an insult even though most seem to take it as one.

                    Anyway....
                    I have done reverse kegels only for the hell of it. I noticed some differences, and learned how to do them better by isolating the muscle (mostly what was accomplished).
                    Doing a reverse kegel DOES relax that muscle. Maybe you should try doing them.
                    Starting Size (09/2009): ~7"BPEL x ~5" MSEG
                    Most Recent Measurement (08/13/2012): 8"BPEL x 5.5"MSEG
                    Final Goal: When I'm told to stop.
                    http://www.towelaroundtheworld.com/#/us

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by NP97 View Post
                      Ignorant means not knowing, it's not an insult even though most seem to take it as one.

                      Anyway....
                      I have done reverse kegels only for the hell of it. I noticed some differences, and learned how to do them better by isolating the muscle (mostly what was accomplished).
                      Doing a reverse kegel DOES relax that muscle. Maybe you should try doing them.
                      Thanks for your reply in OZ means an insult much like a donkey
                      What you call reverse kegel is called here muscle or pelvic floor relaxation is also part of the mind, since sex is an act of two kinds one is muscular the other psychological this is how erection or libido tablets work and this how people should interpret it.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by hawkua View Post
                        Thanks for your reply in OZ means an insult much like a donkey
                        What you call reverse kegel is called here muscle or pelvic floor relaxation is also part of the mind, since sex is an act of two kinds one is muscular the other psychological this is how erection or libido tablets work and this how people should interpret it.
                        That makes no sense. I'm using the muscle. Not my brain, minus the brain sending impulses and such. It is an actual exercise. Like taking a or forcing out pee. Same basic muscles (like I said, after doing them only for about three months I was able to isolate it better). During higher states of arousal and getting close to the point where I am going to cum (not right at it, but close) doing reverse kegels helps to slow down the involuntary regular ones. I started doing this after I became aware of them in the first place.
                        So what your saying is doing this means nothing and just thinking it is enough? Hrm.
                        Maybe I'm too stupid to understand this concept or something...

                        Just because they aren't recognized as a thing doesn't make them not a thing.
                        You know, like how the earth use to be flat and the center of the solar system.

                        Oh, and boner pills have more to do with chemical releases in the blood than brain stuff. The brain part may be working just fine, although the receptors in the wee wee aren't producing what needs to be produced. Horny but soft. Mind = horny. Penis = soft. I know more about this but I'm writing this at 6:30am and haven't been to sleep yet.... so I don't really want to go into detail.

                        Sorry if I came off as a douchebag, but through my own personal experience I believe you're totally wrong. Breathing and relaxation techniques of the mind are quite different than that of the body. Not saying those don't help or work, but there are other ways to do this. Maybe you should try it out. I find them to be quite helpful.
                        Starting Size (09/2009): ~7"BPEL x ~5" MSEG
                        Most Recent Measurement (08/13/2012): 8"BPEL x 5.5"MSEG
                        Final Goal: When I'm told to stop.
                        http://www.towelaroundtheworld.com/#/us

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                        • #27
                          Lucky girl, what kind of exercises does she do?? I've tried kegels before but mostly have tried it without the ben wa balls. What kind does she use? I'm thinking of getting glass ones soon so that I can train myself as well. I just worry that my muscles arent strong enough and they would slip out and just shatter... >.<
                          "Motivation is when your dreams put on work clothes." -- Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #28
                            I tell my girlfriend all the benefits of doing kegels for women, about birth and tighter and better orgasm and sex and she says "what, you cant sex better yourself?" and "what do you want me to do this before dinner or something?" I said do it during dinner for all I care, not like it takes any effort, yet she cant be bothered with it *facepalm*(someone feel free to post a facepalm pic for me)

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                            • #29
                              Hard to imagine though it may be to most men here, there are plenty of people out there in the world who are simply not concerned about their penis size or vaginal tightness. They know that what they have works perfectly well, and enjoy it as it is. Nothing wrong with that!

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                              • #30
                                Is that also called muscle control?
                                No Pain, All Gain!

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