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  • Less Masturbation = more gains?

    Hi guys

    So I understand that quitting porn will be beneficial if you suffer from premature ejaculation and it's also just much healthier for every man, I understood.
    A lot of problems are caused by overusing porn. I'm going to give it a try to finally quit porn, although I don't suffer from premature ejaculation (yet).

    But I read somewhere that masturbating less would give you more gains in PE. I suspect this is caused by a higher level of testostosteron? I wouldn't mind lowering masturbation down a bit, but I would like to know if this is true.

    If necessary, I'll try to find my source
    initial (06/2015):
    nbpel: 5.7 in
    bpel: 6.1 in
    eg: 5.3 in
    current (01/2016):
    nbpel: 6.5 in
    bpel: 7 in
    eg: 5.3 in
    short term goal:
    nbpel: 6.7 in

  • #2
    Masturbation causes you to ejaculate, which causes you to have a refractory period, which causes smaller penis for a time. It is not too much about testosterone. Masturbation, or ejaculation a few times a week is healthy.
    Porn is not needed at all. Some use it in a non-addicted manner, but still there is no need for it. Good luck, and if you would like come on over to the AP90 thread where several of us support each other in our efforts to kick porn out of our lives.
    ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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    • #3
      Quit PORN as it poisons your brain over time (IMO), and Edge instead of masturbating, as you can improve your stamina, eventually plateau edge, leading to Dry Orgasm and MMO with practice. Who wouldn't want to learn to have ultimate control of sex by deciding WHEN you want to ejaculate? It can be done, with edging and practice, instead of masturbating!

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      • #4
        I feel the opposite way, for me at leazt edging increases gains

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        • #5
          Originally posted by canna View Post
          I feel the opposite way, for me at leazt edging increases gains

          Edging IS masturbation, with one essential difference. I edge daily after my routine, but only ejaculate every other session, or maybe not at all, depending on how much sex I'm having that week. You benefit from the expansion to aid healing & growth after your routine, but don't suffer the refractory shrink when you hold your cum. It's good to ejaculate 2-4 X / week either through sex (best) or by edging, because it exercises and cleans up your prostate, which is healthy!

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          • #6
            The testosterone aspect is unimportant. But I'll say a word on it, I saw some popular youtube channel named ASAP Science that cleared some things up. After ejaculation, you actually shortly increase testosterone. But I'm quite sure that's short lived. I have seen the video for a long time and I may be somewhat wrong. Masturbation does virtually nothing to testosterone levels.

            I've always edged while masturbating without realizing it, and I can say it does improve control drastically. There was this one month I would kegal very frequently, and I would edge with ejaculation at the end of it. I didn't realize edging was a thing at the time, I just enjoyed it lol. But toward the end of that month I literally could hold in my ejaculations, and cum dry, I had so much control. Though, shortly after I became busy and forgot all about kegaling and stuff and can't do it the same way like I used to then. But now that I've started eding/kegaling much more again I'm sooooooooo close to being able to do what I used to, I can actually subside away the PONR without stopping any masturbation right now, but I can't completely 100% cum dry if I wanted to like I used to (which cumming dry I'm pretty sure is unhealthy to an extent because I read that the semen goes to the urinary tract and can cause a urinary infection. But it's pretty unlikely lol, plus as long as you piss shortly after it won't even matter I think...)
            Gains so far: +2 BPEL and +1.2 EG !

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ItActuallyWorks! View Post
              The testosterone aspect is unimportant. But I'll say a word on it, I saw some popular youtube channel named ASAP Science that cleared some things up. After ejaculation, you actually shortly increase testosterone. But I'm quite sure that's short lived. I have seen the video for a long time and I may be somewhat wrong. Masturbation does virtually nothing to testosterone levels.

              I've always edged while masturbating without realizing it, and I can say it does improve control drastically. There was this one month I would kegal very frequently, and I would edge with ejaculation at the end of it. I didn't realize edging was a thing at the time, I just enjoyed it lol. But toward the end of that month I literally could hold in my ejaculations, and cum dry, I had so much control. Though, shortly after I became busy and forgot all about kegaling and stuff and can't do it the same way like I used to then. But now that I've started eding/kegaling much more again I'm sooooooooo close to being able to do what I used to, I can actually subside away the PONR without stopping any masturbation right now, but I can't completely 100% cum dry if I wanted to like I used to (which cumming dry I'm pretty sure is unhealthy to an extent because I read that the semen goes to the urinary tract and can cause a urinary infection. But it's pretty unlikely lol, plus as long as you piss shortly after it won't even matter I think...)
              I'm glad you're getting close to DO, but one thing you said is not quite correct. DO (dry orgasm) is NOT the same as retro-orgasm, where you actually ejaculate into your urinary tract. With retro, you tend to lose your erection, just like the refractory period after a normal ejaculation. In a DO, there is actually NO ejaculation, just the sensation of an orgasm, yet you never experience refraction, allowing you to just continue to edge or have sex. That's how you can tell the difference. And, yes, retro is NOT something you want to get a habit of doing for obvious reasons. Additionally, it CAN cause urinary tract infections, though it's somewhat rare.

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              • #8
                Ohhh, had no clue. Yeah never been able to hold it in then lol.
                Gains so far: +2 BPEL and +1.2 EG !

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                • #9
                  Instead of watching porn, use your imagination. That is way better then porn. Doing PE is great for all around penis health.
                  I will never apologize for being me. People should apologize for asking me to be anything else.

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