colloidal minerals

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Supralife Mineral Toddy 32 FL OZ (1 Qt.)
These colloidal minerals are a must for the basis of any nutritional supplement program imo. Has anyone on this site tried this? I have used them since 1995 and combined with a good vitamin sup they do wonders for me sexually with other benefits like energy level, healing and general health.

At the risk of getting myself in over my head here is my take on it: The idea is that the colloidal mineral is a tiny particle that is biologically negatively charged. This makes it easily available and easily absorbed and easily expelled through waste. It can also attach itself to positively charged toxic minerals, trade places with them and expelling them from the body. The body has a hard time absorbing minerals in the form that they come from the earth since they are larger and are positively charged. Human flesh is positive. The positives of two magnets expel each other. I think kelation therapy works on the same idea except that it uses a protein or something to attach itself to the toxins. And now I'm really sticking my neck out.

The supply is from a natural source and as far as I know the only source of it's kind. I believe that is why it's not largely accepted. Big business doesn't have a supply and it can't be duplicated and mass produced economically.

Please tell me what you think.

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I didn't ever get a response on this.

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The body is very smart; it takes what it needs and knows how to get it. I would go into all the biochemistry on the subject but it would be really boring. Eat healthy and your body will get what it needs. If you want to use that stuff and it makes you feel good then fine by me.

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Your right the body is very smart. The body will get what it needs if it is in the foods that we eat. Minerals that we need are not in the foods we eat. Vegetables cannot make minerals. If they aren't in the ground then they arent' in the vegatables either. Farmers put basically 3 nutrients back in the ground, NPK. All the rest of the minerals are depleted and never replenished. Regardless of the biochemistry the body cannot get something that isn't there. I dont' care how healthy your diet is if your not supplementing minerals I just dont' know how you would get them. imho

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Well I hate to be a jerk, but I am very good at it, but he foods we eat do have all the minerals we need. For instance need some magnesium? Have some whole grain breads.Need iron? Just about every red meat has iron.Calcium? Dairy products have lots of it.

Oh the list does go on so I'll stop boring you but it's all there in what we eat.

Oh you want boron? Eat an apple!

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I didn't think you were being a jerk. I was really trying to relate to someone that has used this stuff. I have been using it since 1995 so I know that it does a lot for me. I was just wondering if anyone else has had success with it like I have. I disagree with you that you can find all 70 of these minerals or even half of them in the foods you eat. some of them, yes. My diet is terrible and this is how I make up for it. It does really work at least for me. Everyone is different. Take a look at the list of minerals here. The trace minerals are just as important as any of them. Some trace minerals act as catalysts as I understand it. For example calcium is not efficiently absorbed and moved around in the body without mag and boron.

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Somehow man has survived centuries by just eating what nature has provided. If you have a bad diet than what you are taking you need to take. Eating a balanced diet is really the best.
There isn't a mineral that you take that doesn't come from a natural food source. Don't take my word for it; look it up and you'll see.

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It is a natural food source. It comes from plants that have been entombed for millions of years by a volcano or some other natural phenomenon in Utah. That's why it is colloidal and negatively charged. It was taken up from the earth into the plants and changed by the plant to make it more absorbable to the human body. It's the only source of it's kind, I think. Calcium and some other minerals ppl take in supplements normally are not from a food source but from rock, basically. It's positively charged and hard to absorb. It can actually build up in your body causing toxicity. My tap water has lots of calcium in it. It doesnt' really do us any good even though it is dissolved in the water. My water has 280 to over 300 ppm diddolved solids. I could go out back and lick rocks with lots of iron, calcium and other essential minerals. It's not a food source. Unless you consider rocks a food source. Will I get any benefit from it? Probably not. If you have a background in biochemistry you know that every cell has an electrical charge.

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Okay let's make it simple. Google any mineral you want and ask what food it is found in. You will find all the minerals there in a natural food source and not a rock.Iron found in red meat is not a rock is it?
Now as to the 'charge" particle thing I think you're believing their advertisement and not the real science.

Think about it; if humans could not absorb minerals from food except for this product well then we'd all be dead by now. They didn't have this product 500 years ago but we still are around.

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I didn't say it was the only way to get minerals that are absorbable. It's the only way I know of to get 70 minerals in a colloidal form in one supplement. Google it. Every living cell has a bioelectrical charge. "All cells use their bioelectric potentials to assist or control metabolic processes, but some cells make specialized use of bioelectric potentials and currents for distinctive physiological functions". bioelectricity | biology | Encyclopedia Britannica This isn't voodoo. It's science. It's biology. It's all about the living cell.

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Having graduate degrees in biochem, cellular biology, histolgy, among others I am aware of all that but the body is aware of that as well. For you not eating right it's good for you to take. For others with a more balanced diet they don't need it.

I went to the website and the minute it stated that this stuff was from a million year old virgin rainforest so it's really pure, well that's just marketing. Hell iron is iron whether you get it from the meat in a cheeseburger or from a pill. Personally I'll take the cheeseburger.
I'm not demeaning what you are doing as you feel it works for you and that's great. Is it necessary? Not if you eat a nice balance of meat, fruit, fish , and veggies.

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It's OK to disagree and have a lively discussion about it. It's all very interesting to me. I would probably have something to learn from you but so far your just bashing my opinions and offering only generalities without facts. Go down the list of 70 minerals and tell me how you are going to get them all in the foods you eat? Even if you can find foods with the 70 minerals you would have to eat a small truckload of a very large variety of foods everyday to get them all. I dont' believe you can even find them all in foods you eat. Now, that being said I am not sure I need all 70 everday but I want to make them available to my body.

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I disagree that iron is iron. When a plant takes it up it changes the minerals and makes them more absorbable to your body. You can lick the railroad tracks and get iron. Can you absorb it in that from? Maybe to some degree. Less so when you get older and dont' absorb minerals as well.

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Your body is more able to absorb iron and other minerals from food than from supplements, food is more bio available, and many supplements do not get absorbed at all.

Rely on natural sources (food) for your dietary needs, supplements can never replace that, and they do not taste good either.

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Iron found in plants is absorbed into the bloodstream through the GI tract via digestion. The human digestive tract has all these cute little enzymes that help break down the plant to absorb what the body needs.The fact that these minerals are already found in living things means they are in a form to be absorbed.Our bodies take that iron in the plant, break it down, and use it.

Now the iron in a hammer is not in usable form but the calcium in cheese is. A rock of boron is not in a usable form for our body but the boron that has already been absorbed by the apple tree from the ground and is now in the fruit of that tree, well we can absorb it.

Chemically an iron atom or molecule, whichever you like,is identical whether it's in a hammer or a piece of red meat.

If it is as you say that we need these things for life and it can't be gotten through the food we eat can you explain to me how has mankind lived for thousands of years without this magic potion?