Hindi Squats Reversing Hard Flaccid

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Ps pointy stick, when doing the tennis ball massage I basically prop myself up with arms holding myself off the floor then put the ball under my perimium and go in a circular motion above the ball? Do you put a lot of your weight onto the ball of just a little

You can do it that way, but I actually lay on my back and rub it with the tennis ball manually. Not sure if this is less effective but I find it more convenient. I haven't found any harm in doing it too hard yet. Just do whatever gives you a good massage, no need to overthink it. I massage only for about a minute.

Yeah I've been doing that exact pelvic release routine for a while. I guess my issue is that my pelvic floor is clamped shut so tight, I think namely my BC muscle, that natural force is not stretching it at all. Even whend I try and RK It feels like there is a blockage as I push out because the muscle is so tight. The only thing that seems to affect it in the slightest is doing a reverse kegel in hindi squat. 'Letting gravity do the work' doesn't do anything. I will continue and hope that I can relieve enough tension to be able to do RK normally. How long into a daily hindi squat routine do people start noticing an improvement?

Some people are more tense than others. In the guide I linked in the OP it's actually recommended to do the RK's and Hindi Squats at the same time. If this is what works for you then go for it! You should notice at least some improvement after a week, and some people claim to have been cured as early as a month. It varies from person to person and how tense they were.

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You can do it that way, but I actually lay on my back and rub it with the tennis ball manually. Both work but I find this more convenient. I haven't found any harm in doing it too hard though, but harder doesn't always equal better. Just do whatever gives you a good massage, no need to overthink it. I massage only for about 60 seconds.



Some people are more tense than others. In the guide I linked in the OP it's actually recommended to do the RK's and Hindi Squats at the same time. If this is what works for you then go for it!

PointyStick, as much as it seems to be a disgraced teem around here, what is your opinion of the use of muscle relaxants? My worry is that I am so tense that I feel none of my stretches or RK's are doing much good. I was wondering whether using muscle relaxants would be an idea in order to loosen the pelvic floor enough to perform RK?

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PointyStick, as much as it seems to be a disgraced teem around here, what is your opinion of the use of muscle relaxants? My worry is that I am so tense that I feel none of my stretches or RK's are doing much good. I was wondering whether using muscle relaxants would be an idea in order to loosen the pelvic floor enough to perform RK?

I prefer to do everything naturally myself so I can't provide any information on that. If you think that's really what it takes then you'll never know until you experiment (safely). How long have you been doing these stretches without success, and what is your routine like?

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I have hard flaccid for a couple of months. At the beginning I could reverse kegel fine and was making some progress with these. However, potentially due to continuing to have sex and involuntarily kegeling through it I clenched up pretty bad. Since then I have had pretty much complete numbness of the penis and an inability to do the RK's I was doing before. I have been doing a full pelvic floor release routine but nothing had helped. I am now focusing on hindi squats as they weren't a main focus before. I am generally doing 3x five minute hindi squats a day, or just doing them whenever I have some free time as well as tennis ball massage. My issue is that I'm not managing to get that pelvic 'drop' due the tightness in my muscles and as as result I feel like my stretches are in vain. When I attempt to RK or drop my pelvic floor, I believe my BC muscle is so tight that it doesn't relax. I also feel like this is what is causing the severe numbness. The hindi squat feels like it is helping a little bit but I feel that unless I am able to fully relax my pelvic floor muscles it isn't doing much effect. I recently got hold of a box of Baclofen tablets but have yet to use any. I'd also rather fix this in a natural way but I feel like I'm not going to be able to release any tension unless my muscle can come out of this hypertonic state.

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I have hard flaccid for a couple of months. At the beginning I could reverse kegel fine and was making some progress with these. However, potentially due to continuing to have sex and involuntarily kegeling through it I clenched up pretty bad. Since then I have had pretty much complete numbness of the penis and an inability to do the RK's I was doing before. I have been doing a full pelvic floor release routine but nothing had helped. I am now focusing on hindi squats as they weren't a main focus before. I am generally doing 3x five minute hindi squats a day, or just doing them whenever I have some free time as well as tennis ball massage. My issue is that I'm not managing to get that pelvic 'drop' due the tightness in my muscles and as as result I feel like my stretches are in vain. When I attempt to RK or drop my pelvic floor, I believe my BC muscle is so tight that it doesn't relax. I also feel like this is what is causing the severe numbness. The hindi squat feels like it is helping a little bit but I feel that unless I am able to fully relax my pelvic floor muscles it isn't doing much effect. I recently got hold of a box of Baclofen tablets but have yet to use any. I'd also rather fix this in a natural way but I feel like I'm not going to be able to release any tension unless my muscle can come out of this hypertonic state.

It's possible that if you keep doing these stretches, even if it doesn't feel like it's doing much now, you will begin to notice improvement. I don't believe that the severity of the hard flaccid or how long you've had it can prevent it from being cured, just that it will take more work. I've had hard flaccid for years and kegeled constantly during sexual acts in that time so I was super tense, but I was still able to benefit from these stretches. Before I got into hindi squats the only thing I did was reverse kegel for a few weeks, so I might have been able to reset my pelvic floor to the point where hindi squats were then able to help me. I also abstained from masturbation/ejaculation for a long time and still do. My stress decreased a lot in that time and I feel more relaxed in general, which also helped this work. Good luck.

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It's possible that if you keep doing these stretches, even if it doesn't feel like it's doing much now, they will help you get to the point where they feel like they have an effect again. I don't believe that the severity of the hard flaccid or how long you've had it can prevent it from being cured, just that it will take more work. I've had hard flaccid for years and kegeled constantly during sexual acts in that time so I was super tense, but I was still able to benefit from these stretches. Before I got into hindi squats the only thing I did was reverse kegel for a few weeks, so I might have been able to reset my pelvic floor to the point where hindi squats were then able to help me. I also abstained from masturbation/ejaculation for a long time and still do. My stress decreased a lot in that time and I feel more relaxed in general, which also helped this work. Good luck.

Okay thanks. I shall keep going with the hindi squat for now and see if it loosens much up in the next few weeks. I am also completely abstaining, tennis ball stretching, refraining from sucking in my stomach, deep belly breathing and having warm baths. I have also been seeing a physio weekly. I am doing all I can possibly do to try and restore some sensation back into my penis now and if I don't see any improvement in the next six weeks I am going to have to experiment with muscle relaxants.

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What does the physio say what does the pysc say./?

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My physio is a bit clueless to be honest. She said yeah there's tension but she found no trigger points. She gave me a few stretches to do (including hindi squat) but said there isn't too much she can do manually when there's no pain present. She has also set me up to get some more tests with urology. She stated it's clear that there is nerve problems and there is muscle tension problems but she isn't sure whether the it's the tight muscle impinging the nerves or nerve damage keeping the muscle tight. I would say it was the former as I developed hard flaccid before I developed the numbness. I have decided to give myself six weeks of hindi squats, tennis ball massage, reverse kegel attempts, relaxation and deep belly breaths to see if there is any notable improvement. How long would you expect to be seeing some sort of progress with 3x 5 minute hindi squats? I have a box of Baclofen and will experiment with this if there is no progress after the 6 week period. I don't expect this to cure me but It may help me be able to stretch more easily.

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My physio is a bit clueless to be honest. She said yeah that's tension but she found no trigger points. She gave me a few stretches to do (including hindi squat) but said there isn't too much she can do manually when there's no pain present. She has also set me up to get some more tests with urology. She stated it's clear that there is nerve problems and there is muscle tension problems but she isn't sure whether the it's the tight muscle impinging the nerves or nerve damage keeping the muscle tight. I would say it was the former as I developed hard flaccid before I developed the numbness. I have decided to give myself six weeks of hindi squats, tennis ball massage, reverse kegel attempts, relaxation and deep belly breaths to see if there is any notable improvement. How long would you expect to be seeing some sort of progress with 3x 5 minute hindi squats?

If you'd like you could increase the amount of hindi squats to 5 times per day, especially since you mention you have much worse tension than usual. I see 3x as a minimum and not a maximum. Same goes for the RK sets. I usually don't have the time to do them all more than 3 times a day or else I would.

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If you'd like you could increase the amount of 5 minute hindi squats to 5 times per day or more, especially since you mention you have much worse tension than usual. I see 3x as a minimum and not a maximum. Same goes for the RK sets. I usually don't have the time to do them all more than 3 times a day or else I would. As I begin to do RK's and Squats at once it will become easier to do them 5+ times a day since that saves me time.

I'm trying to do them as much as possible really but my legs get achey. When you do them does your bum touch the back of your legs at all? Or is it up a little bit with your legs pretty wide?

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I'm trying to do them as much as possible really but my legs get achey. When you do them does your bum touch the back of your legs at all? Or is it up a little bit with your legs pretty wide?

The latter. And it's normal for your legs to get achey towards the end of the squat, it happens to me too but quickly goes away after I finish squatting. I wait a little while before doing the next one for this reason. It's better to separate your exercises throughout the day rather than do them all at once in my opinion anyway.

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The latter. And it's normal for your legs to get achey towards the end of the squat, it happens to me too but quickly goes away after I finish squatting. I wait a little while before doing the next one for this reason. It's better to separate your exercises throughout the day rather than do them all at once in my opinion anyway.

Yeah my legs get achey. In fact I've just tried doing one now and I can barely hold it at all because my legs ache. Think I might be overdoing them. I'm gonna stick to just doing them for as long as I can for 3x a day now and see where I'm at in six weeks time. By the way have you tried having sex at all with your hard flaccid? I struggle to get erections on my own but get them with ease when I'm with my girlfriend. It's just a little reminder really that even if you're struggling to get erections on your own this doesn't necessarily mean it'll be as difficult when you're aroused and with a girl. I'm more concerned with the numbness at the moment. There's not much worse than having a numb penis. Strangely enough I can still orgasm though and feel the orgasm entirely. The whole thing is just such a puzzle. Hopefully we'll all get there in the end but due to my situation seeming a lot more severe than most on this forum I'm not holding out too much hope. Will stay positive for the next six weeks though.

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Yeah my legs get achey. In fact I've just tried doing one now and I can barely hold it at all because my legs ache. Think I might be overdoing them. I'm gonna stick to just doing them for as long as I can for 3x a day now and see where I'm at in six weeks time. By the way have you tried having sex at all with your hard flaccid? I struggle to get erections on my own but get them with ease when I'm with my girlfriend. It's just a little reminder really that even if you're struggling to get erections on your own this doesn't necessarily mean it'll be as difficult when you're aroused and with a girl. I'm more concerned with the numbness at the moment. There's not much worse than having a numb penis. Strangely enough I can still orgasm though and feel the orgasm entirely. The whole thing is just such a puzzle. Hopefully we'll all get there in the end but due to my situation seeming a lot more severe than most on this forum I'm not holding out too much hope. Will stay positive for the next six weeks though.

I don't know if it was the stretches that did this or the abstinence from masturbation but I've been seeing some sensitivity increase myself.

And here's the thing about hard flaccid; It shouldn't be a problem once you're erect. It's definitely not the end of the world. Hopefully these stretches will help with your numbness though. Overmasturbation and porn addiction can also temporarily numb the penis.

The numbness you mention most likely has to do with your tension. Where is your penis numb, the glans or the shaft?

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I don't know if it was these stretches that did this or the abstinence but I've been seeing some sensitivity increase myself. And the thing about hard flaccid is it shouldn't really be a problem once you're erect. It's definitely not the end of the world. Hopefully this will help in the way of your numbness as well. Overmasturbation and porn addiction can also temporarily numb the penis.

The numbness you mention most likely has to do with your tension. Where is your penis numb, the glans or just the shaft?

Everything is numb. Even my testicles. I can feel pain and temperature but no pleasurable sensation. It occasionally fluctuates from like 0% to 10% but never beyond that regardless of how hard the flaccid is or when i'm erect. The numbness didn't all go at once but has gotten worse, I think as a result of continuing to have sex and other things which have been involuntarily adding to the muscle tension. Sometimes my muscle (just above the anus, is this the PC muscle?) goes into a bad spasm and sends me into a lot of pain and hard flaccid gets way worse. This goes away after a few days and returns to where it is now. Length is still generally the same and sometimes the hardness goes away for a little bit but the numbness always remains. I am just not really sure what exactly is the main culprit. I assumed if i get pain and tension in the spot just above the anus then it's a PC muscle, but I don't usually have hesitancy when I urinate. That only happens when it goes into a spasm. I feel like maybe then it's the BC muscle as this seems to be the culprit of penile numbness for most but then that doesn't really explain the testicular numbness. I guess it's all connected so my whole pelvic floor is probably just really tense. It's just frustrating when you can't get a clear diagnosis. Sometimes I second guess myself with whether what i'm doing is actually helping or not. For instance, do you find your hard flaccid actually gets worse during the stretch? Mine does, as if tension is being added.

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Everything is numb. Even my testicles. I can feel pain and temperature but no pleasurable sensation. It occasionally fluctuates from like 0% to 10% but never beyond that regardless of how hard the flaccid is or when i'm erect. The numbness didn't all go at once but has gotten worse, I think as a result of continuing to have sex and other things which have been involuntarily adding to the muscle tension. Sometimes my muscle (just above the anus, is this the PC muscle?) goes into a bad spasm and sends me into a lot of pain and hard flaccid gets way worse. This goes away after a few days and returns to where it is now. Length is still generally the same and sometimes the hardness goes away for a little bit but the numbness always remains. I am just not really sure what exactly is the main culprit. I assumed if i get pain and tension in the spot just above the anus then it's a PC muscle, but I don't usually have hesitancy when I urinate. That only happens when it goes into a spasm. I feel like maybe then it's the BC muscle as this seems to be the culprit of penile numbness for most but then that doesn't really explain the testicular numbness. I guess it's all connected so my whole pelvic floor is probably just really tense. It's just frustrating when you can't get a clear diagnosis. Sometimes I second guess myself with whether what i'm doing is actually helping or not. For instance, do you find your hard flaccid actually gets worse during the stretch? Mine does, as if tension is being added.

It's normal for it to turtle after the stretch. This happens to other guys as well. I see a nice hang a while after doing the stretch, but usually not immediately after. Your body contracts your penis as a natural reaction to move blood to where it is needed during exercising, running, etc so don't see this as a bad sign.