PE sent me to the hospital

[blomman Member Find all posts View Profile Close blomman]

am i the only one who gets mildly scared by threads like these, sort of gets me over thinking.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

I have not seen 1 case of someone developing a injury or either hard flaccid and them going to a urologist and resolving the problem. It's usually always a very embarrassing process where nothing is achieved.

I agree with you, I think the mental aspect pays a large part at least with HF anyway but we are not qualified to say that, we do not know that for a fact, and this is the problem with this forum. You can potentially actually break your dick and then when you ask for help you are told by unqualified people with no knowledge on what has happened that "it's all in your head"

You go to the doctor because you think you have cancer. He does what he has to do and finds you are well. You don't believe him so you go to 2 more and they tell you the same thing. Guess what you don't have cancer! Most people will believe they don't have cancer after seeing the first doctor but some won't believe it even after 3 doctors tell them.
A common thread among pe injuries is that they have gone to multiple doctors and had multiple tests and the docs say they find nothing physically wrong. Okay so what do you want them to treat? The injured parties give very subjective answers; oh it feels hard at times or my erection doesn't do this or that. Well the guy can't treat you on what you "feel" or "think" can he? He needs to find something wrong before he can fix it. If his exam and his tests reveal nothing what do you want him to do?
Now when you say urologists are clueless remember you are talking about very qualified guys with tremendous about of education,study and clinical practice;; I know anyone can do it.

[HFrecovering Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HFrecovering]

You go to the doctor because you think you have cancer. He does what he has to do and finds you are well. You don't believe him so you go to 2 more and they tell you the same thing. Guess what you don't have cancer! Most people will believe they don't have cancer after seeing the first doctor but some won't believe it even after 3 doctors tell them.
A common thread among pe injuries is that they have gone to multiple doctors and had multiple tests and the docs say they find nothing physically wrong. Okay so what do you want them to treat? The injured parties give very subjective answers; oh it feels hard at times or my erection doesn't do this or that. Well the guy can't treat you on what you "feel" or "think" can he? He needs to find something wrong before he can fix it. If his exam and his tests reveal nothing what do you want him to do?
Now when you say urologists are clueless remember you are talking about very qualified guys with tremendous about of education,study and clinical practice;; I know anyone can do it.

Urology is nowhere near as advanced as you are claiming, it is nowhere near on the same level as cancer research or organ function.

I've straight up had a urologist tell me that Urology does not get the funding it needs, particularly in country's that have a version of socialist health care, it's not prioritised because it's not urgent, the majority of the training in Urology goes to prostate related issues, he also said there will be many breakthroughs in the future but when it's related to sexual health and function but Urology is very much in the dark ages. There's still a lot they don't understand it can't explain.

An example of this is when someone with prostatitis gets pumped full of hardcore anti biotics even when there's absolutely no evidence of a bacterial infection. They then go on to develop many severe issues related to the heavy antibiotic use.

Another example is on the original HF forum, I remember a couple of cases of guys being told they had a severe case of peyronies by urologists yet they still went on to make a full recovery from HF.

I also another specific case where someone was told they had venous leak and needed surgery yet that person went on to make a full recovery.

Obitoo head of the hf forum had a varicosle and they told him he needed to have surgery for that , he declined and went on to makeep a full recovery from that symptom aswell as the hf.

What you are saying about urologists is largely incorrect.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

I'll be playing raquetball on Thursday with my friend who happens to be a urologist. I'll tell him his specialty is still in the dark ages. He'll get a kick out of it.

[HFrecovering Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HFrecovering]

I'll be playing raquetball on Thursday with my friend who happens to be a urologist. I'll tell him his specialty is still in the dark ages. He'll get a kick out of it.

Yet you ignore every example I have just give you of complete quackery.

Particularly the antibiotics one for prostatitis, it is extremely common.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Can I comment without facts? What you're telling me is an interpretation of what someone may have told you so I have no idea whether it's a fact or not.
Antibiotics for prostatitis; do you know why they're given?

[HFrecovering Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HFrecovering]

Can I comment without facts? What you're telling me is an interpretation of what someone may have told you so I have no idea whether it's a fact or not.
Antibiotics for prostatitis; do you know why they're given?

Because they are stumped and suspect a infection in the prostate even though it's never been proven, never helped anyone and causes long term effects on the body consuming high ammounts of very strong antibiotics for long periods of time.

Personally I know many people who were given antibiotics for HF even though they weren't even complaining about prostate issues. It's pure quackery.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Prostattitis is most commonly caused by a bacterial infection. There can be other causes but bacteria still rate as number one. If it is not due to bacteria quite often as the men getting this ailment seem to be a bit on the old side they are easily susceptible to secondary pathogen ( an infection) due to the inflammation.
Now my dad is 96. For the last 10 -15 years or so he's been prone to this ailment. Pain, fever; all the symptoms. Now after a few days of Cirpo or Keflex he's back to normal so do you want to tell him that antibiotics are not needed?

[HFrecovering Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HFrecovering]

Prostattitis is most commonly caused by a bacterial infection. There can be other causes but bacteria still rate as number one. If it is not due to bacteria quite often as the men getting this ailment seem to be a bit on the old side they are easily susceptible to secondary pathogen ( an infection) due to the inflammation.
Now my dad is 96. For the last 10 -15 years or so he's been prone to this ailment. Pain, fever; all the symptoms. Now after a few days of Cirpo or Keflex he's back to normal so do you want to tell him that antibiotics are not needed?

Dude I can cite many studies that have disproved this, books have even been written about it, many urologists are now being advised not to do it.

When antibiotics do work it is now being attributed to a placebo effect, as the most common cause of pelvic pain aka prostatitis is largely a mind body or physical disorder.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Ok that bullshit because I see it right in front of me. Now my dad being in medicine for 50 years well he don't go for the placebo effect all that much.
As for studies well I can pull up as many as you can so it's pointless.

Now the mental stuff which seems common in HF guys. Read a bit of this;
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The true aetiology of this condition is unknown. Like many CPPS the development of hard flaccid syndrome is thought to be multifactorial in nature. Biological, psychological and social influences all contribute to the development and severity of the condition by altering the neurovascular supply to the muscles of the pelvic floor and penis.
Stress is a key risk factor for the development of this condition by way of causing prolonged contraction of the muscles of the pelvic floor. Stress can be triggered by an injury directly to the penis during sexual intercourse or masturbation, or stress secondary to psychosocial distress in the absence of injury.
Within the body, psychological stress triggers the release of adrenalin with a primitive fight or flight response. The body goes into high alert; blood is directed away from certain visceral organs like the stomach to the muscles of the limbs and pelvis, so danger can be avoided.

ttps://www.urologynews.uk.com/features/synopsis/post/hard-flaccid-syndrome

[HFrecovering Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HFrecovering]

Ok that bullshit because I see it right in front of me. Now my dad being in medicine for 50 years well he don't go for the placebo effect all that much.
As for studies well I can pull up as many as you can so it's pointless.

Now the mental stuff which seems common in HF guys. Read a bit of this;
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The true aetiology of this condition is unknown. Like many CPPS the development of hard flaccid syndrome is thought to be multifactorial in nature. Biological, psychological and social influences all contribute to the development and severity of the condition by altering the neurovascular supply to the muscles of the pelvic floor and penis.
Stress is a key risk factor for the development of this condition by way of causing prolonged contraction of the muscles of the pelvic floor. Stress can be triggered by an injury directly to the penis during sexual intercourse or masturbation, or stress secondary to psychosocial distress in the absence of injury.
Within the body, psychological stress triggers the release of adrenalin with a primitive fight or flight response. The body goes into high alert; blood is directed away from certain visceral organs like the stomach to the muscles of the limbs and pelvis, so danger can be avoided.

ttps://www.urologynews.uk.com/features/synopsis/post/hard-flaccid-syndrome

Nothing I've said is bullshit. It's all easily obtainable information out in the domain.

And you don't believe in a placebo effect yet your advice to people with HF is to sort there mind out?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

So Cusp your quote suggests that stress is causal to hf . Funny how stress /anxiety comes through in posts on the internet . I didn't think it was possible .

[KerDong Member Find all posts View Profile Close KerDong]

are you warm up or warm down during PE ? or just do only jelq ?

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

I think you strained a ligament. That would take a few months to heal but it will heal.

[HansTwilight Retired ModeratorPE Gym Editor Member of the Month Jan 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close HansTwilight]

Glad I could help!
Now, if you don't mind, can you atleast post a review in my protocol to encourage other sufferers that there is hope??
Pretty please?