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From what I've read on here it seems like urologists never really fix anything and people are always just posting on here for solutions for there pe related injuries. Is my view on this just distorted because if the doctor actually did help people wouldn't bother posting here or are they pretty much useless when it comes to pe related injuries and they will pretty much just tell you things you could have just figured out yourself? Thinking about going in because my dick has beened messed up for about a month and a half now and I'm starting to doubt rest will take care of the problem on it's own.
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One day when you can't pee and your bladder is filling up causing intense pain you will know how"useless" a urologist is.Many people on here think they're useless because he doesn't tell them what they want to hear or that their ed is in their head because he can find anything physically wrong with them or even your "hard flaccid condition" is normal and there is no treatment!The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy! -
yea.. urologists are helpful.. its just, it seems they have no interest in helping men with anything other then very serious problems.. they dont care if your boners are a little weaker then they used to be.. or your dick a little firmer etc.. they are more worried about whether your prostate is swollen or youve got a stricture or sometihng like that.
maybe there needs to be a new class of urologists.. who are there more to optomize function rather then make sure everyone is functioning OK..Comment
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If you have a severe penile injury, like a fracture, that requires surgical intervention, or a torsion of the testes, or a varicocele causing infertility a urologist can be very helpful.
There are some cases of vasculogenic erectile dysfunction due to impaired blood flow in the pelvic arteries that might be curable by a urologist, interventional radiologist, or vascular surgeon. Some metabolic causes of ED might be diagnosed by a urologist and successfully treated by other physicians (like a prolactin secreting pituitary adenoma). ED from testosterone deficiency can be treated with replacement therapy successfully in most cases.
Unfortunately, many cases of erectile dysfuncion from neurologic causes, some metabolic causes resulting from chronic diseases, or vaso-occlusive dysfunction ("venous leak") have no accepted treatment. There are some interventional radiologists and urologists attempting treatment of vaso-occlusive dysfunction, but it is quite experimental at this stage. In these instances, a urologist might be able to diagnose the cause of ED but treatment may well be limited to the phosphodiesterase inhibiting drugs like Viagra, Levitra, and Cialis. If those are ineffective, a urologist could prescribe Caverject injections or suppositories, or a pump with constriction rings.
In severe cases of ED refractory to any other therapy, a urologist can implant a rigid or inflatable prosthesis.
So no, urologists are not "useless'. But there can be a lot of things that can go wrong with a penis that they can't "fix". And that isn't because they have no interest or don't care.Comment
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I'm actually considering becoming a urologist someday, just don 't have the time or money to get into it at the moment. I believe most doctors honestly don't care enough to look into mystery illnesses, and thats essentially what some of these problems are.Originally posted by moxsum View PostComment
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So if I go to a urologist and tell him my symptoms. (turtling dick, painful erections, slight loss of sensation, cold head, muscle spasms) he most likely won't do anything about it?Comment
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Also should I even bother telling the doc about pe? It just seems really embarrassing and I can just imagine them giving me a lectue about penis enlargement and just saying well that's what you get.Comment
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The problem with urologists and most other doctors is that when they graduate from school, their very limited knowledge forever stays locked in that time.
If someone thing is discovered after that (which happens all the time) they rarely if ever updates their info on it.
In my case whether it was going to a normal doctor or a specialist, I already knew EVERYTHING and more from google.
It's very sad but true...
Nothing is worse than having read everything on google, then you are desperate because nothing on google really helps, but when you ask your doctor he is even less knowledagble.
Also yes, society still has a little taboo on the ED subject.
It's still something that's being shoved away and laughed at.
I completely understand that doctors can't be expected to be psychologists too, but it should be a requirement to have SOME idea how to handle a person who goes through this.
Simply saying "oh well thats too bad, can I have my money now?" is really a mind fuckComment
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They have a better idea how to handle it than google does. You are most incorrect in the asumption that docs learn nothing after school.Many hours each year are dedicated to continuing education courses, reading countless numbers of journals, attending study clubs, group discussions and so on. Next time you get sick let google fix you!The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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There are doctors called Male Sexual Dysfunction Specialists who concentrate on ED problems rather than primarily deal with prostateOriginally posted by moxsum View Post
and bladder problems. Hard to find though.
Thanks to a Uro, I have just started HRT which has provided me with great results, at least in the short run. I did ask him about herbs and supplements and he admitted he was not trained in treating patients with these substances; however, mentioned that there was a "supplement guru" in Minappolis who I could contact if I wanted to go that route. So he at least had an open mind.Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
Fat Pad = 1+/-
Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.Comment
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It is true that a person with a rare condition can often learn more about it through internet research than all but super-specialized physicians know about it. Physician training is correctly prioritized toward treatment of those conditions which that particular specialty is likely to encounter with any degree of probability, and towards treatment of those conditions which can be treated, rather than those which have no effective treatment.
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Mostly it's these reasons. Most urologists just deal with prostate and bladder issues. Things like firm flaccid are so unusual that they likely have never encountered the condition before and just do not know about it. Seeing a sexual health specialist is the way to go with it comes to seeing a urologist if you have ED. You should at least have a doppler ultrasound performed to see how the blood flow is in the penis. At least these individuals are a little more knowledgeable about ED, but I doubt most know about firm flaccid.Originally posted by moxsum View PostComment
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Do you have a college degree yet turtle? I have no money and its not stopping me from applying to medical school, get federal loans.Originally posted by TurtleProblems View PostComment
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Nah just go to the University of the Internet! There's an old John Foggarty song entitled "I saw it on T.V." where he states he "knows it's true cause he saw it on t.v.". That's the internet now.The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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CUPS82, stop being such a douche....
You actually think that you can't learn more on google than any doctor knows?
Doctors using Google to diagnose illnesses | Mail Online
I've been to very many different doctors in my life, i have TMJ and I've had it since I was 16, a very common jaw problem, but my doctor, my dentist, my jaw specialist couldn't tell me ANTHING I didn't already know from google.
Funny thing is, I found some treatment over the internet which i then recommneded to my doctor, which they now offer to patients.
So yes, a 17 year old kid diagnosed and treated himself and then went on to teach the doctors...
Same thing with most illnesses today, unless of course you got cancer, sure you can read more than the doctor will ever know about it, but you wont be able to do too much with that.
So DEFINATELY google is better than doctors simply because a single doctor can't hold 0,00001% of the information google can...
The only thing the doctor really can do is prescribe drugs...
That's actually ALL they can do...Comment
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