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  • Recovery from Sclerosing Lymphangitis

    Hey all,

    Haven't been to the forum in a while. I actually got a case of Sclerosing lymphangitis of the penis. This is where the lymph vessel in your penis gets irritated/clogged from some traumatic event. Some guys get it from rough sex, others get it from masturbating too hard. In my case, it was the latter. I was masturbating after PE and I think my dick wasn't ready for it.

    Anyway, this was many months ago now. Since that event, I stopped all PE and masturbation, which is what many protocols tell you do. I turned off all sexual thoughts, I immersed myself in my work etc. I tried the baby aspirin deal, tried rubbing all kinds of oils all over it, but it wouldn't go away completely. And I had this dull pain, which was annoying. Even now, I have what looks like a vein, but is really a distended lymph vessel protruding from right under the head of my penis. Luckily for me, it's relatively small, maybe a quarter-inch across. The thing is, some of the lymph vessels that are right next to it have also become slightly distended (not as much as the actual spot, but still noticeable, also under the head).

    Now, I know what you're thinking. Tough break, whatever. True. If you study up on Sclerosing lymphangitis, there's actually no formal cure for it. It's something that many subject claim goes away on it's own. In my experience, however, it did NOT go away on it's own. The theory is if you stop irritating the penis by masturbating, sex, getting erections etc. then the penis has time to heal. The problem with this line of thinking is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to stop having erections. Even with this 'condition' I would get strong night-time erections. When I woke up, the spot on my dick was clearly irritated . . .more on this in a minute.

    But I did recover, not thanks to these 'doctors.' My belief is that with the exception of surgery, there's no way to make your dick 'look' quite the same. Functionally, my dick is probably 100% recovered, but in terms of looks, it's kind of a battle scar, something to forever remind you of what went down at that particular day.

    O.K., here's why I would not recommend someone to follow the protocols recommended by traditional doctors. By the way, I have no respect for most traditional doctors, so I'm a bit jaded (more of a natural health kind of guy), so be forewarned.

    1) The lack of erections will cause your penis to atrophy somewhat. Seriously. Your penis health will be diminished. I'm a big believer in the idea that your penis needs to be worked out like any other muscle group or organ. Think about it. In our teens, we had pretty staying power etc. because we had frequent erections and masturbation sessions. I have a theory about this as well that I'd like to share down the road.

    2) Lost gains. Can't quantify how much, but it did happen.

    3) T levels significantly lower. Hey, when you stop thinking about sex, something changes biologically and I seriously believe you stop producing as much T. This means lower energy. I could feel the difference because when I did finally break the protocol and masturbated, I could feel my energy levels go much higher. I started masturbating again because I was tired of having wet dreams where I messed up my sheets in the middle of the night. I said, heck, my body is going to cum no matter what I do. I might as well enjoy it. In the past, there were religious reasons why I would try to abstain from masturbating, but now (God help me) I like the increased energy from it (as long as it's not excessive), zest for life, penile health, better sleep, relieving the congestion of the prostate (which causes pains, at least for me) and not messing up my sheets that comes along with it.

    Here's what DID help me to get over my Sclerosing lymphangitis:

    1) Taking the mental attitude of, "This damn thing isn't going to stop me from enjoying my life" and simply IGNORING IT. I swear, I just acted like it wasn't even there and that's when it started to subside. Realize, this is exactly the opposite of what doctors tell you to do. I actually increased the amount I masturbated with the thinking that I had to get my dick acclimated to having an erection even with this distended vessel in it. And I swear, slowly, it did. Now, I have normal erections, no pain, the vain still looks slightly distended, but doesn't hurt, so who cares? I bet over time, it'll start to go away even more.

    2) Eating raw sunflower seeds. I'm telling you. There is some nutritional supplementation needed to get your dick back up to par. It wants B vitamins. I find that the most potent and bio-available come from natural sources, which is why I chose to eat raw sunflower seeds. Now, I would eat A LOT of raw sunflower seeds. I carried a bag around with me all day for a while, eating portions 4-5 times a day.

    3) I even continued with some light PE. Hey, why not?

    The crazy thing is, this would seem to go along with most accepted protocols for dealing with a muscle injury, for example. It seems counter-intuitive, but in order to heal from a muscle injury, one has to work out that muscle, strengthen it up, so that it can heal. Amazing, amazing stuff.

    Well, I just want to say I'm back and I'm back on a program. I'm gonna' hit the JP90 and we'll go from there. I find the less is more mantra works for me in PE as well as in weight training, which I've been comparing more and more and finding many similarities.

    Current stats are: 7 X 5

    Goals: I'll take 'em.
    "I know you've been married to the same women for 69 years. That is marvelous. It must be very inexpensive."
    -Johnny Carson

    Ezekiel 2:8--But you, son of man, listen to what I say to you. Do not rebel like that rebellious house; open your mouth and eat what I give you."

  • #2
    Hi,
    I just wanted to see how you were recovering. I developed the same thing a couple of months ago, and I've abstained for about 3 weeks, but I'm ready to start masturbating again. I just saw a urologist who said that he had seen several cases before and that they do heal on their own. I asked if I had to abstain from sex and masturbation(as all the online sources say to avoid it), and he told me that he would "never tell anyone to abstain from sex or masturbation." He said that it shouldn't matter and it should get better either way. He said he had seen some pretty bad cases resolve, and I'm guessing he never advised abstinence to them.
    Anyway, I'm curious to see how you are doing now. I was encouraged to hear that it seems to be settling down pain-wise. What about now? Has the swelling/vessels diminished in size?

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    • #3
      Bumping out of curiosity as well.
      Hope = "Hoffnung" und es bleibt bei mir.

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      • #4
        This is a great account of your experience with this issue and some very interesting thoughts. I don't know how this post went unrecognised for so long

        Myself and also loved ones have also have had quite a number of dissapointing experiences with doctors. Sometimes the things they say are downright idiotic. You have to remember that there's going to be quite a few doctors that are just normal people, who have got to their status by studying hard and hitting the books, but they're not actually that smart at all. They're just good at passing exams and doing time.

        Before any doctors on this forum get offended, let me say, that given the apparent rate (in my experience) of incompetence, the ones then that are truly thinking and who actually care are highly valuable.

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        • #5
          I hope my comments don't inspire anyone to PE through an injury. My appeciation of hearing the story, and my experience of doctors are completely unrelated. Rubirosa tried the resting first, it got worse, and so tried something different afterwards. If you've injured yourself through PE, stop and rest is always the first course of action.

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          • #6
            need to bump this. Rubirosa, you've been out of action since 2011 but I hope you come back to the forum soon. the others that have posted this out of curiosity - how have you been recovering?? i developed this problem a little over a month ago from the compilation of the following events over 2 days:
            masturbation
            rigorous PE session
            sex on cialis (for the first time)

            i got laid with a beautiful girl and decided to stay haaard for longer.. as much as the sex was amazing, i ended up with a noble sized SL the next morning. i freaked the f*ck out as it looked like a STI. ironic isn't it. you get something you work so hard for and end up with this..

            any who. i've eased of masturbating and stopped work outs as soon as i found out what it was. it's hard not to let some steam off completely so once a week or left even longer, i'd cum just by rubbing my glans and avoid any contact with the concerned area. the SL has finally eased off but i just can't seem to get rid of it completely. when i get back up to 100% erect and start to rub a little, the bulge becomes noticeably larger (although not as big as before)

            there is only one other thread regarding this symptom and i am sure there are more fellas here on the forum with the condition but unaware of what it is. i'd like to bring this topic up again and try to get more feed back not only for myself but others who may be concerned with the condition.

            Hoffnug, how are you holding up since your last post??
            just get it

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            • #7
              The best "healing" erections ypu get are the nocturnal ones, no need to masturbate to work it out. If its a muscular issue its most likely cramped, worst thing you can do with a cramped bicep is lift weights, same logic applies.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheMadArab View Post
                The best "healing" erections ypu get are the nocturnal ones, no need to masturbate to work it out. If its a muscular issue its most likely cramped, worst thing you can do with a cramped bicep is lift weights, same logic applies.
                Thanks for the post MadArab, but my understanding is that this is not a muscular issue at all. The problem is the scar tissue that has formed due to the causes. Although complete recovery seems to have been reported, once this tissue forms, it can remain 'dormant' and reoccur in the same area.
                My case has subsided significantly, basically invisible even when 100% now. But when I work out or rub one out and there is a lot of rubbing involved, I can see the scars slowly coming out again, which forces me to stop.
                I just need to take it very easy by the looks of things.
                just get it

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                • #9
                  Just to put this out there for you guys dealing with this troubling and stressful ordeal..

                  MY recovery process consisted of leaving the area alone. NO MASTURBATION OR ANY SEXUAL ACTIVITIES!
                  Also I just used common sense, since its an INFLAMMATION, I went ahead and went on a research frenzy and came up with this dietary supplement. I don't know if it helped, but I recovered very quickly in my opinion.

                  If youre not familiar with juicing, its not hard. All you need is a juicer (obviously) and these ingredients;
                  -Buy this in week supply quantity- AND ORGANIC PLEASE!

                  1 hand full of Spinach
                  1/2 hand full of Parsley (Italian or Regular)
                  1 full Broccoli
                  2 Carrots
                  1/2 Cucumber
                  1 Full Beet + root if you'd like. (The root has many beneficial nutrients!)
                  2 Celery sticks (like the carrots)
                  1 Granny Smith Apple
                  1/2 Lemon
                  1inch - 1 1/2 inch Ginger Root.
                  It will add a little spice and is a MUST add in the juice.

                  AND JUICE UP! If done properly, this should amount to about 2-3 cups of juice. You don't have to drink the WHOLE thing in one day. If you can, drink atleast 2 cups one day, and have yourself the last cup FIRST THING IN THE MORNING NEXT DAY.

                  Heres my routine - I started every night around 8-9pm and drank 2 cups at night before bed (not RIGHT before, but sometimes I did, so while I sleep, the healing process can keep on). Saved the last cup for the morning (less hassle in the morning!). I drank it FIRST thing in the morning BEFORE ANYTHING. Top it off with a same cup glass of water. Not to mention, this will act as a metabolism booster, and you'll catch yourself getting hungrier during the day if youre not a breakfast person. I don't know about you, but it most definitely helped me in my opinion. I had this for the first 6-7 days without any improvements..During these days I kept on the juicing. Now it has been about 13-14 days, and the improvements are just a such a blessing to see I STILL juice now so that I COMPLETELY heal the area even though I see close to/no sight of it. Please try this regimen, I tried aspirin for 2 days, quit that, and also I tried wobenzym for 2 days, quit that, stuck to this regimen... I don't know if the whole massaging thing is a benefit, but I did NOTHING to my penis, and just stuck to this juicing regimen and rest. THAT WAS IT. If my story isn't enough for you to try, then I don't know what else to say. Obviously im not selling anything here, im just here to help because the fact that you cannot be sexually active for some time is a huge downer.. ESPECIALLY if you have a girlfriend or worse...a wife...who loves sex.. pshh...yeah, time to google the nearest whole foods or wherever you can get yourself organic fruits and veggies. Good luck to you guys, because I know how stressful this incident can be.

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                  • #10
                    I've had this SL injury for about 6 or 7 years now. I dont think it will ever completely go away and no way i'm getting surgery. Normally mine's is bareley noticable, just a 20mm long but thin guitar string like and only when erected it can be felt/seen clearly.
                    After masturbation it gets bigger but also goes back to normal quite quickly.
                    However i suffer from pre. ejac. and yesterday i did a 2 hour long edging session with a very firm grip + lube and today it is bigger then i've ever seen before.
                    The string is now about 8mm thick and lumpy, it freaked me out a little. Strange thing is during the edging session the string was completey gone, i thought the firm grip with lube somehow removed it. Boy was i wrong.
                    Is using a anti imflammatory cream maybe a good idea?
                    I read somewhere where a guy would put pressure and massaged the string by ''milking'' the lymph fluid out.
                    sumoko
                    Junior Member
                    Last edited by sumoko; 06-27-2016, 01:34 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sumoko View Post
                      I've had this SL injury for about 6 or 7 years now. I dont think it will ever completely go away and no way i'm getting surgery. Normally mine's is bareley noticable, just a 20mm long but thin guitar string like and only when erected it can be felt/seen clearly.
                      After masturbation it gets bigger but also goes back to normal quite quickly.
                      However i suffer from pre. ejac. and yesterday i did a 2 hour long edging session with a very firm grip + lube and today it is bigger then i've ever seen before.
                      The string is now about 8mm thick and lumpy, it freaked me out a little. Strange thing is during the edging session the string was completey gone, i thought the firm grip with lube somehow removed it. Boy was i wrong.
                      Is using a anti imflammatory cream maybe a good idea?
                      I read somewhere where a guy would put pressure and massaged the string by ''milking'' the lymph fluid out.
                      Hey sumoko, would you mind sending me a picture? I have the same thing. A string right under my gland that does almost the full circumference of my dick. I've had this for a couple of years now and nothing improved it. Its also causing me ED. I have been thinking about going 1 week without touching my dick at all and taking some oral anti imflammatory.

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                      • #12
                        @bronx-I'm not really into sending pics of my dick to other dudes but mine right now looks something like this http://www.regionalderm.com/Regional...ingLymphD1.jpg
                        Thank god it has reduced in size about 75% in the last days. This will probably never fully go away, however its not really noticable unless i have rough long sex/masturbation, then it can grow enormous but in a few days goes down again. Right now i'm using a cream called hirudoid, hopefully it will help. I never had ED or pain from it, are you sure you have SL?

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                        • #13
                          Ok mine went down with 95% in 2 weeks of not touching it and yesterday i tried ''milking out'' the remaining 5%. I pinched the beads and heard a few pops and my SL was gone completely...i was ecstatic. However this morning it is back with a vengeance, its huge and swollen again. So this is definately an inflammatory thing, do not mess with it.

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                          • #14
                            UPDATE: Its been about 8 months since this nightmare began and i'm still not fully healed. I still have a thin hard vein when erect and when flaccid not much is visible but it can be felt clearly. A few weeks ago i tried messaging the beads to try to break them up, but they are hard as stone and the next day it flared up again although not nearly as bad as 8 months ago.
                            For the last six months i have not had sex because i'm afraid it will flare up again and when masturbating i use lube and only stimulate the glans and try to cum as fast as possible to not irritate it. I even stopped touching my dick completely for a month but it was still there.

                            I'm afraid this will not go away by itself and i think i'm going to either stop touching my dick the comming 3 or 4 months completely, which is hard for i have high libido. Or i might take a needle and stick it in the biggest bead. Its right under the skin so i dont have to go deep at all, i read somewhere that a guy did this and some fluid came out and the SL shrunk and healed. Is this a stupid idea? Obviously i would use a clean needle and gloves and be as carefull as possible.

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                            • #15
                              6 or 7 years? Have the clogs/blockages always been very hard? Did you try massaging the area/lymph fluid out when you originally received the injury?

                              What about soreness/tenderness? Did you/do you experience any, like a bruise? Years later? Or is it only the visual aspect of it that bothers you now?

                              Not quite sure about the whole needle ordeal, yet.
                              Jay1983
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                              Member of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016
                              Last edited by Jay1983; 02-09-2017, 09:17 PM.
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