Serious Possible Permanent Damage To Privates, any hope?

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

Just a quick Update, I seemed to wake up last night with an attempted nighttime erection i believe my body was attempting, im not sure if the pain woke me up or what but i felt my billy stick once i realized what time it was and it was semi erect..
Also today i tried another 50mg pill of viagra just for experiment, My erection still had ballooning effect and required stimulation to bring it up...
Seemed to last quite a while with on and off stimulation, probably 80% better than without any pill. Also my EQ was greatly improved but still not 95 to 100%. This give me a little bit of hope... ( i was looking at visual fyi)
I am wondering if this much improvement off a "pill" indicates that i do have some sort or leakage or possibly restricted vessel/artery?
Does any body think that taking a daily 5mg dosage of cialis would be beneficial in helping getting blood flowing down there and possibly break down scar tissue?

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

currently believe i may not have venous leak and the major problem is in my glans, i have no sensation or feeling it it what so ever, i placed ice cube on it and nothing,rest of my shaft and balls still are very sensitive. I have about a very hard almost like a rock lump of scar tissue inside my glans that may be the main source of all my ED, I believe i have compressed all the nerves on my glans responsible for sensation and feeling.. Also i now that i recall when i received (attempted) bj's after the incident i remember i couldnt feel nothing at all on my glans really.. only time any sensation is when going deep..
This is also why my erections may be dying quickly... and why i wake up in the night with dying attempted night woodies because of the pain in my glans wakes me up, also my glans doesnt appear to look at all like it did before i vacuum hung... ahh dont know what to do besides keep the faith and keep praying.
Going to see urologist on wednesday.. i believe i know more than this guy im seeing due to all the research i been doing the last three months but ill see what he says...

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

Just as an Update...i went back to urologist a few days ago for the results and did not look good at all...definitely have some type of leakage or venous insufficiency as my results were half of normal cm/s i believe had 18-19 peak... also was only a third erect with injection. The doctor knew nothing about nervous damage or vacuum hanging or what my options were.. I pretty much told him that i wanted a 5mg dose of cialis to see if increases my blood flow..
However i have yet to get it or even sure if i want to try it because i pretty much have no feeling or sensation feeling at my private anymore...
I have't ejaculated in quite a while..just been resting and applying lots of heat in showers..
not sure what to do, my knees are hurting from praying so much

[jonyoung Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jonyoung]

Well if the dr says you don't have any damage there who are you to argue

[Samurai Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Samurai]

What did the uroligist say to you? did he say u had venous leakage? what is he going to do for you?

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

Well if the dr says you don't have any damage there who are you to argue

The doctor did not know what to tell me, he has never seen anything like my case before. He did say i have permanent internal scarring in my shaft and possibly my glans but cases like mine are very rare/extreme and i believe he did not want to discourage me.. He told me that i may know more than him on this matter and asked me what to do next? i was kind of upset about this but appreciate his honesty.

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

What did the uroligist say to you? did he say u had venous leakage? what is he going to do for you?

The urologist did not say much and tried to push me on the pills again , which is usually the first line of defense for leakage/ED. He said i do probably have venous leak due to the piss poor results of my doppler test and was surprised that i even knew what that was. He said he really doesn't know much about the nervous system in penis nor of any type of treatment to regain sensitivity. I told him to prescribe me 5mg daily dose of cialis. I have prescription but am thinking about not doing anything for another month to see if my morning semi-erections improve...
I may visit another local urologist to get his opinion and not tell him what i believe is going on.. ahh man this is depressing, trying to keep the faith

[Samurai Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Samurai]

Good luck, man. There is no harm in trying the cialis and I believe a second opinion is a good idea.

[ElusiveCanvas Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ElusiveCanvas]

Hey Mikey88,


My suspected Penis injury too has been caused by a Penis Extender. My Urologist, in addition to recommending a blood test had also prescribed taking Cialis 5mg for a short period of time.


Prolactin Level in Blood- I'm not sure if you're already aware but from my Blood Test results, my Prolactin level was found a bit on the higher side 570 mu/L (Normal: 72 - 407 mu/L).

Prolactin is a hormone produced by your Pituitary gland in the brain and its excess levels have clinically proven to cause real loss of Libido (Its levels normally become high due to issues with your Pituitary gland). Anyway that partly explains my loss of libido. Hence I'm to see a Endocrinologist to check on any possible remedies (Will update on this once done).

Not sure if you want to get this checked too.


About Cialis / PDE-5 inhibitors: From what I've gathered from Net and through contacts, of all the three main drugs that helps have strong erections (Viagra, Cialis and Levitra); I end up understanding that Cialis is the one with the minimum side effects.

Also, I'm sure you know this by now: The above pills are generally called PDE-5 inhibitors.

PDE-5 is a hormone that breaks down and restricts the release of Nitric Oxide - the central, natural way of attaining an erection. These pills just inhibits the release of PDE-5; thereby allowing Nitric Oxide to be released freely and help attain a hard erection.

It looks like Cialis only inhibits PDE-5 hormones; but Viagra / Levitra, in addition to PDE-5; apparently also inhibits other hormones like PDE-6 - vital for eye-sight etc. (Hence their confirmed list of side effects include blurred vision for the extent of taking it). As for Cialis, the only side-effect I noticed was a slight burning sensation in stomach and slight feeling of indigestion (the two common side-effects confirmed by Cialis manufacturers (El Lilly)) - both of which disappeared within 2 - 3 days of stopping taking it.

Another point though, is that Viagra / Levitra is known to cause hard erections within 30 min / 1 hour of taking it and lasting for prob. 2 - 4 hours; whereas for Cialis (as I found out too), it may take up to 4 - 6 hours to cause hard erections (when you take it first time, as per El Lilly; for ppl with ED, it might take 1 - 4 days to start attaining hard erections) - But the good point is once you have erection, you can attain such erections as required for the next 16 - 20 hours.

But I wouldn't recommend taking any of these pills continuously for more than 2 weeks or so.


As for other steps, I think you're already doing all the right things and seem to know much more than me anyway.

Just wondering if your VB-12 / V E supplements have been prescribed by any Urologist? Not in my case (he say there're almost no medications for such things), but I found many ppl online advising to take it; so I've just started following suit.

Again, as I'm being told; the most important thing is: to practice complete abstinence atleast for 6 - 8 weeks (again depending on the extent of injury) - no kind of touch (even) that would exhert pressure on the injured part.

I'm sure you would be fine and back to normal through the sustained medication and care being given. Dont worry too much about the time taken, as long as you see sustained improvements (even slight) over time, keep going and it'll be worth the time, at the end.


Best Wishes Mate!


- James.

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

Thanks james for the detailed reply.
My prolactin Level was 7.2 ng/mL and the normal range was 2.1-17.7
Also my testosterone was at 464 ng/dL
Your info about viagra/ cialis /and levitra is true.. I don't even want to get on pills really but if i feel like i may be experiencing an encounter soon i want to be able to work....
I am not ruling out that I am suffering some hard flaccid issues also. My flaccid appearance is still quitehard and rubbery, especially at base and middle of my shaft...
I am about to go to bed i will update soon

[ElusiveCanvas Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ElusiveCanvas]

Mikey88,

Good to know you'r Ok with your Prolactin Level.

Also I'm not falsely trying to instill confidence in you, but from your parent thread, I notice you as slowly but truely making actual progress. From the Urologists / experience ppl Online I talked to, nerve / tissue rebuilding is a really slow process and needs time depending on the extend of injury you have.

The most imortant info all of them told me - we ONLY have Sensory Nerves in our Penis and ALL Motor Nerves lies seperated from the actual Penis structure into the Pelvic area. As long as you have inflicted injury ON the Penis, its just about the sensory Nerves; And these Sensory Nerves are 'designed' to be rebuilt over time (just like skin over an external bruise / injury). So relax and just be prepared to give it some time.

Infact from your pictures, I think you only have 2 distinct issues - injury with your Sensory Nerves (and) some kind of venous leakage (or blood clot in the lower part of your D (?)). I'm sure the former will get fixed over time and the latter as well is slowly improving as per you and so will be def. alright in the long run - it would also be good idea to continue hunting for the best Urologist in town and get his advice for the latter, if possible (Would advise to look overseas too if required and sure about the potential treatment quality, as it'll be worth it).

Remember, the critical thing is to ensure you abstain from any Sexual activity / masturbation / anything else that might stress your penis. This is easily the most important thing to be followed as an injured Penis needs unhindered time to recover and rebuild its tissues - so even when you take it out to urinate, be careful (I know its tough but it really helps than anything else).Rest is all to medication (which you're already doing as much as you can) and time / patience - And you are going to be good in a few months' time.

Will continue my updates once I have any.

- James.

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

Mikey88,

Good to know you'r Ok with your Prolactin Level.

Also I'm not falsely trying to instill confidence in you, but from your parent thread, I notice you as slowly but truely making actual progress. From the Urologists / experience ppl Online I talked to, nerve / tissue rebuilding is a really slow process and needs time depending on the extend of injury you have.

The most imortant info all of them told me - we ONLY have Sensory Nerves in our Penis and ALL Motor Nerves lies seperated from the actual Penis structure into the Pelvic area. As long as you have inflicted injury ON the Penis, its just about the sensory Nerves; And these Sensory Nerves are 'designed' to be rebuilt over time (just like skin over an external bruise / injury). So relax and just be prepared to give it some time.

Infact from your pictures, I think you only have 2 distinct issues - injury with your Sensory Nerves (and) some kind of venous leakage (or blood clot in the lower part of your D (?)). I'm sure the former will get fixed over time and the latter as well is slowly improving as per you and so will be def. alright in the long run - it would also be good idea to continue hunting for the best Urologist in town and get his advice for the latter, if possible (Would advise to look overseas too if required and sure about the potential treatment quality, as it'll be worth it).

Remember, the critical thing is to ensure you abstain from any Sexual activity / masturbation / anything else that might stress your penis. This is easily the most important thing to be followed as an injured Penis needs unhindered time to recover and rebuild its tissues - so even when you take it out to urinate, be careful (I know its tough but it really helps than anything else).Rest is all to medication (which you're already doing as much as you can) and time / patience - And you are going to be good in a few months' time.

Will continue my updates once I have any.

- James.

Thanks for response...I am trying not to lose confidence in myself of my unit either but its pretty hard not for me to give up all hope.. I also have quite a tight pelvic floor region and also have a series of hard lump strands beneath my anus/gouch area. Relaxing has been key to me being able to carry out a somewhat normal life.
The lump or scar tissue in my private is permanent and i have had that for about 4 years. it causes slight curvature but nothing unbearable.. I believe i may have permanently deformed some of the ligaments at the base of my penis which maybe causing a majority of the issue and my erections quickly falling/ not coming fully erect.
Also my flaccid appearance is so pathetic that i don't even know whats going on, however i have noticed my hard flaccid seems to be slightly improving. (its not hard all day sometimes its somewhat normal..I also have purple veins visual on my penis , i know this is not uncommon but i believe i never had these before my injury... I am going to continue resting and taking supplements and hope that a miracle happens..
I might visit another local urologist if i have time...
Good luck

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

just and update, i have seen slight improvements in my flaccid appearance over the past week, i have not been eating after 6 o clock and am still taking a variety of supplements. I do find my self waking up with very weak morning woods sometimes, but the fact that i am even getting them somewhat is a slight sign of hope.. There has been no improvement to the EQ and duration of my erections ans i still believe i do have some sort of leakage/venous insufficiency. I have also been paying attention to the very hard ligaments on the dorsal side of my penis.. extending from the base all the way behind my glans. Prior to my traumatic PE attempt i dont believe i had these nor was my upward curve as bad.. Still my glans is super soft and gushy and discolored. Still have multiple lumps os scar tissue of plaque buildup in my glans.... Now that I recall It has been this way for almost four years.. The fact that i never actually looked at it or noticed when receiving oral blows my mind.. but then again i never knew about all the possible injuries or anatomy of the penis... nor was i seeing anyone steady.. I have attached two pictures for possible help? I will probably take them down shortly.
i guess photos cant be in threads...

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

Hey mikey this my first post man and I gotta emphasize that you are NOT alone in all this. I have been reading around on the forums for a couple months now as I am still dealing with an injury that happened to me when I was 13. I am now 22 and have seen multiple urologists all of whom say the same things...basically either tell you to take viagra or get a surgery as a last resort.

Anyway, I'm posting because I have a few conditions similar to you that I wanted to ask you about. My injury happened when I was sitting in class and got an erection while wearing jeans and when I stood up to leave class I felt a popping sensation in my penis. Then for about a week I'd try to get an erection and they would be 50% or so and ejaculation was also weak. If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have touched it for months and let it rest while taking proper supplements/visiting a doctor. Unfortunately I was so embarrased I didn't tell anyone for years. I didn't see a doctor until my senior year of high school after developing many SERIOUS psychological issues regarding my condition which only worsened things. :/ Just saw another doctor who prescribed me viagra (which i've only taken twice) this past january. Things haven't changed much. My problem is mostly downward curvature starting at the base and weak support at the base making it difficult to have sex in several positions. I also lose erections very quickly...the blood is not trapped in there like I remember it when I was young.

Here are my questions/comments:

1. You said you had an upward curve which is why you were doing hanging exercises...did you ever experience that popping sound/sensation during one of your sessions? (As that would be similar to my injury...a forced downward motion on an upward curved erection...well, assuming you were slightly erect as you stated...I was fully erect when mine happened)

2. You say "My penis is very loose at the base" and also "I feel like I have pulled my entire shaft out of my pubic region more instead of lengthening it." My condition feels very similar. It feels like its not really connected the way it should be... Especially on the bottom side. It does feel more connect on the dorsal side. Do you notice it feeling more connected on one side more than the other at the base?

3. I'm having the same problem with hard flaccids and especially with the symptom of the penis filling up with blood at the head/upper half before filling up at the lower half of the shaft, giving a strange ballooned look like you talked about.

4. When you say your scar tissue "causes slight curvature but nothing unbearable," where is the curvature exactly and which way is it curving?

5. I can definitely relate to this comment: "I believe i may have permanently deformed some of the ligaments at the base of my penis which maybe causing a majority of the issue and my erections quickly falling/ not coming fully erect."


Well I'm sorry if this post is not really helpful to you in a "giving advise" sort of way but I just wanted to drop a line and say hang in there man because you aren't alone. I've had serious depression issues throughout my life because of the psychological damage this has brought upon me, but anymore I'm just trying to live as healthy and spiritually compassionate as possible. Focusing on the problem is not where the solutions come to fruition. Positivity is hard to find in situations like ours but I know that the more we can stay positive the more likely we are to make the right decisions in our recovery. One decision that really got me off track was my experimenting with drugs in college. I became very self destructive and my problems only escalated. I learned from it though and I'm now finding a lot of hope in these forums and in books that help me with separating my identity from my problems...(Super Brain, Be Here Now, Untethered Soul, Siddhartha...just to name a few).

Good luck brotha! I will stay tuned in your recovery!

[mikey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikey88]

Voodoo Child I PMED you.
I am seeing no improvements thus far but have just been giving it rest..

Also I have realized that i have quite a bit of internal scarring near my glans and the "smooth" muscles leading up into the glans...
I am currently looking for possibilities to break down this scarring/hardened tendons and ligaments. Any suggestions?