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I use c-rings daily... I am conditioned for it though.
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And think about this. After you read it of course
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We often blame something external because it seems that must have caused it. After all that's what we were doing right before our problem started. Sometimes however the problem started long before and just got really bad after the outside stimulus. In your case the cockring. You feel the tightness so deal with the tightness. You feel the anxity, so deal with the anxiety. Don't despair it will get better.ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!Comment
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It's normal to "milk out semen". Supplements won't help. Do what wishful says.Originally posted by boomer12 View PostMy WorkARTICLES:
The Dangers of Excessive Kegeling
The Necessities of “Pelvic Floor Health Awareness”
Being Prepared for PE
THREADS:
The HANS Protocol
PF Dysfunction and CPPS- Mental or Physical
Belly Breaths vs. Front/Back R/Ks
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Progress Log (Coming Soon)
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Hey guys an update,
So after sending my very lengthy report out to more doctors, finally had a Skype consultation with a very experienced retired Dr from the Middle East. The guy was a pleasure to talk to. We spoke for an hour. Firstly, he said he looked at my pictures before reading the report and "spat his coffee out" when he saw them. He could not believe that all the Drs I have seen were so incompetent with their recommendations like cialis, dermovate cream etc. He believes it is a more vascular issue and what is happening is that my bucks fascia is not torn but streched and blood entering my penis is trapped there and does not easily flow back out. This is actually true because after my inflamed and sore erections my penis takes awhile to return to the flaccid state and is more swollen and red like blood is trapped and pooling.
He has given me a number of medications to take and I should see improvement in a few weeks (if it works). The bloody down side is that while he has sent me his report, my GPs here in the U.K. are my stumbling block for getting the medication, they are worried about supervising it and being responsible. My GP said he will consider it though as plan had logic and is tied back to my theory involving the fascia issue. I told my GP i am happy to do the treatment and sign anything that accepts full responsibility and give him full immunity from anything that happens to me.
If I get treatment and if it works I will post it here in case others can benefit from it. I would also like to say he nailed my symptoms and pain I get to the T. He is bewildered that the urologists I have seen even suggest it's mental/psychological or that it looks Normal.
Also just for your information he said to be careful when doctors diagnose with cpps, there is no test for this as you will all know by now (it's by process of elimination) or when Drs don't give a flying fuck and want you out their office. Dr said my symptoms are not cpps. He also told me that from his vast amount of experience at his age of 75, when doctors don't know or don't have an answer for an issue they fall back on one of two things rather than say they dont know: 1) hit and hope with medication like antibiotics etc or 2) say it's psychological (all in your head).
Anyway will update you guys more if this stupid country called the UK let me try the treatment after finally a dr has acknowledged the problem. He also said they should have admitted me into hospital to run a number of tests.
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How is that vascular .. you did doppler test to your penis ..this is the ultimate test for vascular problems.. anyway tell me if you got better after the treatment .Originally posted by makarinio123 View Post
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Good to hear from you Makarinio123.Originally posted by makarinio123 View Post
So which country in middle East- Syria, Turkey,Israel,Iran,Saudi arabia,Jordan,Palestine,Yemen,Oman,Kuwait, Cyprus????????????
I am not trying to offend you but you are the only exception who gets the opportunity to talk to uselesslogist for 40 minutes to an hour rest everyone gets at Max 10 min,who talks to doctors having heard about hard flaccid,some doctors holds your theory of superficial facica tear and some to bucks facica tear,I mean either of the two.Rest everyone else don't even get a chance of being heard completely,forget about doctor giving a nod to their self diagnosed theory.
Now this 75 year old middle East guy feels your bucks facica got stretched,sounds weird when you had inflammation only in meatus.And for no reason, without doing anything gross with your junk, without getting hurt ,one night suddenly your bucks facica got stretched. In my case lymph vessel had got swollen for the entire night while I was asleep,I woke up with inflamed vessel and inflamed penis,I pulled my foreskin to cover the glans coz it had got retracted in sleep and within a min inflammation disappeared.I could believe stretched facica in my case but in yours it's difficult believing.
I don't think doctors in middle East would be more competent than the one who is the best in London.
I am trying out things and is 99% cured hf ,just gets bothered about the persistent errection I get during sleep.
I wish you be fine soon,had it been a physical issue,it would have cured itself,it's almost a year now.Still I wish whatever has been prescribed by the new doc works.Comment
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all I'm saying is I find it hard to believe some sort of imaging can't pick this stuff up, especially if there is a tearComment
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What meds were you given?The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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Tell me about it. However, it doesn't surprise me if you read top urology journals they admit they cant see everything.Originally posted by jonyoung View Post
Also when I spoke to a urologist in the US specialised in penile implants he said to me that MRIs are def not the be all and end all at all. Many aspects can't be seen.Comment
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I will disclose this CUSP once I start the treatment and get hold of the medication and if it works. I don't want to post a treatment plan here unless it has any effect otherwise it won't be useful for anybody but cause more anxiety. I promise to post if it works of course.Originally posted by CUSP82 View PostComment
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Ranchi! My fav person on this forum with always constructive comments. The dr is from Egypt. Actually the saying goes that while western doctors studied textbooks, Egyptians studied patients. I.e. Learning by doing, rather than memorising.Originally posted by Ranchi View Post
Ok so I have some symptoms similar to yours we are not completely different, but yes my first symptom was the swollen meatus overnight. Then like a domino effect severe pain and inflamation occurred, discolouration etc. If the treatment works I promise to post it so it may help others, but until then it will just cause more confusion if I do post a treatment that is untested or doesn't work.
I am not concerned anymore with what the cause was it's a year too late for that. I am just searching for a cure or relief. I thank those who suggested physio therapy and I am still going once a week with no success so I will keep that going for another few months to give it a good number of months to cross pelvic floor dysfunction off the list. In fact I am seeing a professor tomorrow of urology that specialises in cpps so will get his view I booked the appointment ages ago as I wanted to give physio therapy and acupuncture a chance but it has done nothing so let's see.
Like I said I will keep searching and post only when I have an update.Comment
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Just to set the record straight med students spend the last 2 years of school in hospitals learning to treat patients hands on with an instructor who is a doctor. After graduation that same med student will spend a minimum of a year working 70 hours a week treating patents. Good luck with the Egyptian guy.The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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Hey guys,
Just an update. I am Starting the treatment next week probably Tuesday when I get the meds and will let you all know if there is any relief. In the mean time I wanted to to update you on the only decent and honest professor of urology I met last week who is a specialist in prostate cancer and cpps.
The appointment was suppose to be 15 minutes but he took 45 minute with me. We got into a detailed discussion and the time flew by. Anyway he had cancer himself at one stage and was told he had months to live but had an operation and is doing a lot better (reason I meantion this is because I believe this is partly why he was very sympathetic).
He read my report in advance line by line and said to me it is evident from the pictures there is a problem for sure and was disappointed that some urologists had flogged me off. He can see all the symptoms I mentioned and he ruled out my cpps esp with months of physio therapy with the guy he knows cause when it is pelvic floor dysfunction he sends his patients to that therapist. He also said my symptoms are not what you would call classic cpps so he doubts it's this but urologists use it as a basket for anything they can't explain he said.
He told me to be aware that urologists are programmed to look for what they know: cancer or peyronies etc if they don't find this they will resort to "its normal" or "all in your head". He also said it is not good practice to tell a patient that is suffering pain and has discomfort that it is all in their head as this can be deterimental to the patients mental health. He also said that when urologists say "it's normal" it means that it's nothing they recognise, but a poor set of words to communicate to a patient.
He said also that MRIs are only as good as an MRI is and it is certainly not dense enough to see everything in the penis. He said my condition is rare and the truth is that urologists don't know anything about the fascia and indeed mine might be streched or torn along with clogs or damaged blood vessels, veins or arteries. He said there are zero as far as he knows of empirical evidence about how to repair fascia. He approved half of the medication given by dr in egypt and so I got those.
I asked him tho that if my penis is not fractured but urologists can repair fractures how do they do it and he told me when a penis is degloved a cut is made around the penis and all the skin and fascia, tissue are brought down to repair the tunica and then all that which was taken down is put back up and stitched so he said you see we don't look at the superficial or bucks fascia and he said if he saw an open penis he wouldn't be sure what all that from bucks fascia to skin is he would know the tunica.
So he said there is not even surgery for that. He also said that when there is a clog, other vessels compensate for the blocks or clogs and so the penis can be inflamed.
He said you could sit all day theorising about ways to repair, understand an area of the penis which a urologist cannot see. There is no single devise clear enough to see this. He said with all my other tests ruling everything else out it probably is the fascia streched or torn.
Also he said the only way to detect some subtle problems with an MRI would be to have an MRI of a persons penis before and then after to compare. Looking at an MRI itself is just going to rule out cancer fractures, and peyronies.
Anyway let you all know how I get on with Meds when I start them next week.
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What are the meds?The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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