superficial colles' fascia tear

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

Meds won't do anything...your body has the power to heal itself and no med will help kick start that.

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

don't get how this guy said he couldn't distinguish between the Bucks fasicia and skin and everything else when they are trained to do this stuff lol...maybe try another Doctor

[makarinio123 Member Find all posts View Profile Close makarinio123]

What are the meds?

Like I said CUSP, I will disclose only if it helps so there is no panic or information overload provided.

[makarinio123 Member Find all posts View Profile Close makarinio123]

don't get how this guy said he couldn't distinguish between the Bucks fasicia and skin and everything else when they are trained to do this stuff lol...maybe try another Doctor

The body does have the power to heal Sometimes. After a year with zero improvement the body needs help. About the doctor I don't think you read my post clearly. To fix a fracture they deglove everything as one to get to the tunica and make the repair and bring eveything back up. That is standard procedure and so this is why urologists have not looked into fascia, colles, bucks or superficial or areolar tissue. It has not been an area of study therefore urologists are not addressing this. They have no scans to detect it, it is rare and so like he said urologists don't know this "grey area".

Think of also Peyronie's disease which has been around for ages and Acknowledged yet urologists have been fairly poor at resolving this even.

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

The body does have the power to heal Sometimes. After a year with zero improvement the body needs help. About the doctor I don't think you read my post clearly. To fix a fracture they deglove everything as one to get to the tunica and make the repair and bring eveything back up. That is standard procedure and so this is why urologists have not looked into fascia, colles, bucks or superficial or areolar tissue. It has not been an area of study therefore urologists are not addressing this. They have no scans to detect it, it is rare and so like he said urologists don't know this "grey area".

Think of also Peyronie's disease which has been around for ages and Acknowledged yet urologists have been fairly poor at resolving this even.

Thats not how the body works. Healing always occurs but there may not necessarily be full repair...for example, if you scan 50% of the elder population, a lot of them will show "rotator cuff tears" or "disc herniatations" but a lot of them won't have pain...this is because pain and tears aren't always correlated. My point is the body has amazing feedback systems that allow it to repair itself. You can see if the meds help...but meds never help anything heal, they only mask symptoms. Viagra doesnt fix ED and Statins dont fix your BP long-term. List a medication that helps people "heal" and i bet you won't find any (if you're going to list a supplement, that's quite different as some people may be deficient in vitamins or minerals which disallow certain things from occurring in the body but this is much more rare).

Anyways, i think you should keep looking for different doctors and see what else is out there.

[makarinio123 Member Find all posts View Profile Close makarinio123]

Hey guys, Here is some stuff I found out about fascia in general and when you think about it it describes a lot of what I have and some of you may have also.

Every move you make, every step you take, your fascia reacts to you.
If you’re dehydrated, suffer an injury, or perform any kind of high impact activity, this can cause the fascia to clamp up and adhere to itself and other structures in the body, such as muscles, bones, and skin,

This makes your fascia rigid and stiff, which causes pain, tightness, or just dull soreness

In modern medicine, we don't have all the explanations or knowledge of exactly what fascia is, but we do know is that some people get adhesions to fascia and tissue, which cause irritation and pain," Dr. Kim

I would also add that modern medicine hasn't bothered looking into it. Since fascia is all over the body u would think that they would study it like blood being all over our body.

Anyway, just wanted to share the info, been on meds for 2 weeks now and it's a 6 week course based on working anti inflamtion and and congestion. So far nothing has changed structurally or the discomfort but the pain has subsided a bit (not as deliberating as before) I will message in a few more weeks to see if any other benefits occur and then I promise to post treatment here on this site.

Ps to Mike my physio said the body does not continuously heal. It attempts to heal when an injury accident occurs for a while if undiagnosed/ identified then it heals incorrectly. About meds yes if you have a virus or infection antibióticos can heal but will agree with you that pharmaceutical products only mask problems or are thrown out at like lollipops for chronic pain and don't look at the root of the problem: system is an issue GPs are glorified nurses that are sales ppl for the big pharmaceutical companies and if strong pain killers exist why bother learning anything new. Best time in the world to study medicine and become a GP ( my gp's best friend is google)

Makarinio

[makarinio123 Member Find all posts View Profile Close makarinio123]

Just so you guys know the medicine didn't help at all in the end. Sorry I don't have any good news to report.

Makarinio 123

[jonyoung Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jonyoung]

If you have torn fascia in the perineum , colles fascia etc I'm convinced that this present moment at the only option to well no option

I think surgery may work though good luck finding a urologist or a surgeon to perform that operation, I'm going to be trying some strethcing and laser pointer treatment though like I said

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

Just so you guys know the medicine didn't help at all in the end. Sorry I don't have any good news to report.

Makarinio 123

so whats your next step

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so whats your next step

Hey Mike,
Hope you are well. I won't do anything further at least for a while simply because I have tried evey drug, scan, blood test and seen about 10 urologists. I am continuing with physiotherapy even tho it hasn't done anything. Based on the last prof. of urology only decent urologist I met who didn't dodge questions and genuinely answered all my questions. He said it was evident there are problems from the pictures I sent him (also he along side my physio were the only ones to actually read it properly). The others pretended to (u can tell by the conversation).

Anyway, he believes that my theory about the fascia is very plausible and would make sense why no scans pick it up and that urologists don't know anything about fascia (colles, bucks, or superficial). This made sense when he explained how they repair fractures (fascia is not involved in this as I explained in an earlier post). The other theory is ruptured/blocked/dmamaged blood vessels, veins or arteries. It can really only be these aspects.

He knows my physiotherapist as he refers patients to him when he is sure it is cpps, he is sure mine is not as I have seen my physio for so long already and he didn't think my symptoms matched up. Also corroborating both my physio and the Prof they both haven't seen a case like this before but both acknowledge there is a problem or a few problems. Basically, during our life time they will never know.

Makarinio 123

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[Ineedhelpplease Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ineedhelpplease]

Hey, any news?

[geo3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close geo3]

WOW! …. I chilled after, but I still wonder what causes the ligs to pop, had only
one time while squatting and stretching. Felt like a joint adjusting somehow.
I killed two birds with that exercise my chiro gave me to do.

[_mrhyde Member Find all posts View Profile Close _mrhyde]

PF tension, pain in the urethra. Look at my signature.



So does mine.

Three years later I now believe you're correct that I do have PF tension. Just discovered this yesterday when doing trigger point massages. Felt a pain in the penis head when I massages a ln area of my pelvic floor. Injury pin pointed. Happy to say I believe I can turn this injury around and get back to PE after I heal. 👍