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[Kirin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kirin]

Hey Shane, it's been about 2 months. Any updates? Seeing any progress?

[shane_syndrome Banned Find all posts View Profile Close shane_syndrome]

sorry I havnt even been doing it lol , the needles i have are way to big so I just need to pick up smaller ones .... I still havnt been doing Any PE at all

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Ive also been trying to sign up at thunders becasue there seems to be more about it over there.

[raffinato Member Find all posts View Profile Close raffinato]

right.

i tried to read through the whole post but some things were so far away from the actual truth that i stopped and just reply.

1. injecting testosterone (whichever ester) intramusculary is NOT going to give you a bigger penis - FACT. (unless you are in puberty, that may be possible)
2. injecting testosterone (whichever ester) in your penis may work to some degree (SpringerLink - Journal Article ) however - testosterone is usually esterified, and stored in an oil emulsion. you dont want to shoot hat up your cc. also, that fluid is too thick to use insuline needles - im talking about the size of injecting needles here. you would need pure form testosterone or DHT - that cream could be an option maybe, but is way underdosed i think (most probably). anyways not sure where you can score pure testosterone...
3. you basically need a device/technique to deliver stretches/expansions to the penis and add IGF to make the changes last.

shane, IGF is most likely needed. pure testosterone may be a good mix also. but havent you considered using a vacuum pump of some sort to use in combo with the shots?
also, if done allready, what is the most fluid that can be injected in the CC, according to you?

PS im not one like you guys that is gonig for just another inch - i really have an issue in the measurements department, so i am going to do something...(as soon as i get the cash together to buy some supplies)

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[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

Ive also been trying to sign up at thunders becasue there seems to be more about it over there.

I was a member at Thunders, and there's nothing you can't find on other forums like this one. In fact, this is better. At thunders, they keep some sort of marxist policy towards members.

[shane_syndrome Banned Find all posts View Profile Close shane_syndrome]

right.

i tried to read through the whole post but some things were so far away from the actual truth that i stopped and just reply.

1. injecting testosterone (whichever ester) intramusculary is NOT going to give you a bigger penis - FACT. (unless you are in puberty, that may be possible)
2. injecting testosterone (whichever ester) in your penis may work to some degree (SpringerLink - Journal Article ) however - testosterone is usually esterified, and stored in an oil emulsion. you dont want to shoot hat up your cc. also, that fluid is too thick to use insuline needles - im talking about the size of injecting needles here. you would need pure form testosterone or DHT - that cream could be an option maybe, but is way underdosed i think (most probably). anyways not sure where you can score pure testosterone...
3. you basically need a device/technique to deliver stretches/expansions to the penis and add IGF to make the changes last.

shane, IGF is most likely needed. pure testosterone may be a good mix also. but havent you considered using a vacuum pump of some sort to use in combo with the shots?
also, if done allready, what is the most fluid that can be injected in the CC, according to you?

PS im not one like you guys that is gonig for just another inch - i really have an issue in the measurements department, so i am going to do something...(as soon as i get the cash together to buy some supplies)

gr

r

i think i can get test base in BAC water and i actually considerd that , all I am pinning right now is IGF into my penis but I am also taking test , dbol and deca ... I dont remember if i said IM test injections wouldnt work but Im pretty sure they would because i read somwhere they give HRT to people with micro penis.

sorry im not sure how much can be injected into the penis but i think if you really tried it could be 1cc

so maybe i can do 100mg of test base every 3 days into my penis and the other 2 days into my ass , but that wont be untill my next cycle ... this week (just starting ) i thought i knew alot but im recently getting flooded with ne research but im getting excited about this , I also am going for a drastic change in penis size.

good luck bro , let me know when you do start .

[Kirin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kirin]

all I am pinning right now is IGF into my penis

Hey man, I'm confused. Are you or are you not injecting now? I am considering starting an IGF-only routine, since it is difficult for me to get a hold of PGE or caverject.

[shane_syndrome Banned Find all posts View Profile Close shane_syndrome]

Yea All i am injecting into my penis is IGF , but im considering test base

(testosterone suspension)

[raffinato Member Find all posts View Profile Close raffinato]

@ shane

thx 4 the update.

1. about testosterone Intramuscular injections: if they would increase penis size, id have a 2 meter dick now, and no BB would ever be held in shorts....get my drift? HRT is something completely different and i also given to ppl without micropenis
2. be VERY CAREFUL with pinning testosterone to your johnson- pls. as i said, most testosterones are oil based, and i don think that is wishful in your CC
3. deca & dbol are good for training, but dont have an added value in this enlargment experiment if you are allready pinning testosterone IM (and don use dbol too long bro)
4. you are pinning IGF AFTER you have exercised your penis, correct? 25mcg , correct? how many days on/off ?

shane, do keep in mind that new cells from IGF usually only mature after 6 months. don expect gains to become visible before injection day + 20/25 weeks.
in skeletal muscle, we can mature those new cells fast by adding AAS to the cocktail. not sure if this also applies to smooth muscle cells. (if someone would be able to find a study on maturing smooth muscle cells?)
but it is quite possible - and shane, go get such a DHT creme that you can paste on your dick - im not certain it helps, but it cant do much harm either i guess ( i know women develop local hair growth if they apply such creme fro a long time, so it does work - i got that from a medical report :-) )

@kirin:
caverject not available here either, but its just used to increase size temporarily. may as well use any other device/action which will give a significant change in length/girth

@all

im planning on doing a 30 week cycle, which should look more or less like this:

weeks 1 - 3O -> 2 IU GH/day - (4 days on - 3 days off) 580€
week 4 - 30 -> 500 mg test /week 100€
week 10 - 20 - 500 mg trenbolone enanthate/week in stock
week 20 - 30 - 800 mg primobolan/week 240€
week 4 - 30 - 25 mcg IGF locally to penis 230€
week 1 => week 52 - 15 minutes a day vacuum pump (thinking to use bathmate - good results, low risk) 100€

total damage: 1300€ more or less

this is the plan, more or less. my current problem is $$$$. its not hugely expensive, and i actually have the cash. but im unemployed at the moment, so im not spending anything which is not 100% neceassry (u get the idea)
and i may have some issue with my car as well ... :-/

anyway, as soon as work comes in, this goes ahead.

@ shane, you use insuline needles to inject i suppose? does it hurt?

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[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

I love this Thread.
In regards to IM testosterone injections, of course they do work. The difference is that muscle does not grow without exercise. But if you workout your penis, in the long term, it will grow.

There is no doubt hormones WILL make smooth muscle tissue grow. In fact, many bodybuilders, develop enlarged heart and intestines from the drugs and the stretching of the tissue. What we don't know, and this is the interesting part of Chemical PE, is the doses, and time frames.

When we grow up, there is a synergy that makes our cawks grow. Is the mixture of increased testosterone levels, DHT, HGH, but also increased Red blood cells, because our bodies are expanding; all that mixed during puberty and adolescence, translate in developed cawk. But this does not happen over night. It takes years in its natural state. So if we can replicate this environment with hormones, and even better, localizing them in the penile area, plus intense Penile workout, it could lead to great results.

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@ jack agreed , I dont think test IM injects work directly but with exersizing the penis i belive they should

@ raff ,
1. I was going to get andreactim (DHT cream) but I had an order seized but i am mmoving soon
2. Yea im buying a water based suspension so i think i might be safe injecting it into my penis
3 . yea im just on dbol for 4 weeks , while waiting for test to kick in.
4 . yes right after exersize (EOD) , 6 weeks on 6 weeks off ... im considering MGF for my 6 weeks off but I still want to do more research
5. I am using 1cc syringes with 27 gauge needles ( my pharmacy said that was the smallest they had at the time) , this was less painfull then injecting my glute with test.

6. what do you think about injectible winny (water based)? ... its pretty much injecting DHT


I need a new car so ill need to save up for some GH , I was thinking about doing 4 IU but that will get expensive .

[Cya at 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cya at 8]

Somebody plz pm me with a source or info on how to mess up an HRT test when you are asked to fast before hand. I've messed up the results with sugar and beer before but now I am taking a glucose test on the same day. They are catching on and I'm in need of some gear that isn't going to get caught up in customs if my test levels come back normal which I believe they will.

Help a fellow PE'r out!

[shane_syndrome Banned Find all posts View Profile Close shane_syndrome]

lol there was somthing in a flex magazine i read as a kid called your doctor your dealer and it was explaining how to fake low testosterone ... ill see if i can find it.

[Kirin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kirin]

I'm glad this thread is so active again.

Shane, have you seen any growth from injecting only IGF? For how long have you been doing this?

[shane_syndrome Banned Find all posts View Profile Close shane_syndrome]

lol like a week ... it mightjust be in my head but i think my dick looks more veiny