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[akga80 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close akga80]

So I was thinking, if most of the members on this site, are well above average, why do we have this insecurities about our junk. For me even when I started looking back I was at the average mark, and the only feedback I got was negative, due to mainly relationship issues not my size. That being said is the women we've been with projecting their insecurities on us. Or are all the studies garbage and we all have tiny dicks, if that's the case good thing we're all here, playing catch up. Any of you all want to weigh in on why mostly above average and large guys are trying to go beyond the norm, please do, for me now it's all ego.

[proactive Senior MemberMember of the Month ? 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close proactive]

i think you're right it's more ego. definitely girls don't need a huge unit to satisfy them, neither do men for that matter. i think it is more the mindset that we need to have the biggest and the baddest and the most toys and the biggest house. that kind of mentality.

but overall if we focus on having the most healthy penis and sex life there would be much more fulfillment.

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

Most I have talked to candidly have said 6 is great and 7 is near perfect, but that unless it is super small or super big, size doesn't matter to them (and for both those extremes, size matters but not in a good way).

Also out of all I've talked to, only one is a size queen who says there is no 'too big'...all the others state the above or similar.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

Our sex is the core component of our being. From the time we're born, our sex determines and largely influences EVERYTHING we do or become in relationships, ethics, and in how we interpret others or assimilate our view of the world. Testosterone & estrogen (or the lack thereof) form our genetic code, determining our personality, our "drive", and our social positioning in life. Males have a genuine need to achieve, driven by testosterone, just like females have a need to nurture driven by estrogen. Culture influences the manifestation of basic human drive, but not necessarily always in a positive way.

SIZE matters to males more than females, because it is the outwardly obvious tangible evidence of being "male". To most males, "bigger" means "better"...it's the way we're wired. Healthy mentally stable males realize these basic foundational principals about themselves and other men too, and naturally have a desire that drives them to become "better" (larger) more satisfying sexual partners. Wrt "SIZE" males are only limited by social insecurities, mores (learned ethical/ religious behaviors), and genetics. Maximizing our core "maleness"is a natural healthy desire, provided it's done within societal norms; and luckily, it's also achievable, if we channel our efforts using healthy practices to enhance and maximize our genetics. There should be no shame regarding a male's desire to become the best he can be both physically, and psychologically.

PE Gym is a valuable resource to inform, channel and develop a male's natural desire to improve himself using healthy (both mental & physical) exercises. Knowledge is POWER, so when that power is shared honestly & openly discussed among like-minded males, working to achieve a common goal, it becomes exponentially powerful. <THAT, my brothers, is WHY PE Gym is such a valuable resource. It's free & available to everyone who desires to have a healthy penis, a positive mental attitude, and wants to develop & learn healthy sexual practices that will last a lifetime. Along the way, many discover the CORE of their own individual & unique "maleness". It's a discovery well worth investing time and effort in achieving, IMO.

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

Wow, Jock, very profound, well done. Triple like.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

<Thread moved to the GYM forum, since it's really not a POLL>

[akga80 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close akga80]

We're kinda fragile psychologically, I for one just came to the realization I can honestly say I have a big dick (not super big), but statically speaking well above average. I was just trolling through the treads and in women's perspective, there's a guy started a thread, am I small or something along those lines, something about his girlfriend teased him a bit, now the poor guy has a complex, he listed his measurements at 7x5.1, come on, dude has a big until statically speaking. So that just proves, women are potentially pushing their insecurities on to us, which is hypothetical in this case, but for all we know good looking guy tall fit triple threat, woman has to keep him around. Meanwhile guy continuously does PE, betters himself, good job, but will there be a point where it's enough. I'm in the middle of a little social study, I'll post about it when I get it done, basically I'm going to see what women actually encounter,and how close it is to the previous studies on average. Or do women have that same more is better Gene like men. Because the average is like 5.5ish some where in there, but women want a 6.3 according to the latest study, those aren't to far off, but for some that's a year 18 months of training. Sorry for the ramble, tell me what you think.

[Ayjaye Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ayjaye]

Jock that was one of the best posts I have read on the gym to date, couldnt have been better said.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

These things are socially driven the Romans regarded a large penis as laughable .

[ArtisticAnarchist Senior Member Member of the Month Aug 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close ArtisticAnarchist]

From an evolutionary point of view, an abnormally large penis is counterproductive to reproduction. And off topic slightly, but taking a long amount of time to ejaculate would be counterproductive to survival. The former due to women being unable to accommodate a penis that's too big, and the latter because the more time spent copulating would mean more vulnerability to predators.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

Jock that was one of the best posts I have read on the gym to date, couldnt have been better said.

Thanks, Ayjaye! I try to provide an encouraging and positive perspective for guys to think about in a world where "being male" is not always considered an asset. I'm glad you appreciated it!

[DarkMedic Senior Member Member of the Month April 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close DarkMedic]

From an evolutionary point of view, an abnormally large penis is counterproductive to reproduction. And off topic slightly, but taking a long amount of time to ejaculate would be counterproductive to survival. The former due to women being unable to accommodate a penis that's too big, and the latter because the more time spent copulating would mean more vulnerability to predators.

I spent an hour using circular logic and expanding this into fallacy, just to realize it and decide not to post. Fuck.

I took your assertions, which are 100% correct and I created a illogically twisted reasoning for our evolution of increased dick size/duration of sex.

My redemption to my unposted rant:

1) Abnormally large penis size (above average) is definitely counterproductive to reproduction for the reason you have stated, thus average penis size will never be larger than average vaginas can accommodate (SMDH this is so obvious you should see what I almost posted) unless we develop a MASSIVE rape culture or artificially inseminate females using only horse dick.

2) Taking an abnormally long time to ejaculate isn't so counterproductive for the survival of most humans including early humans. Civilization and social cooperation has afforded us great leisure and security making this mostly an issue with non-human species. Humanity had this luxury since the beginning of humanity. I would say it is counterproductive to the survival of adulterers though lol. We also happen to be one of few species to have sex for non-reproductive pleasure.

Some people argue that larger penis anatomy can help increase the chances of successfully reproducing in spite of other competitors recently (very recently) unloading their semen into the bay.

[ArtisticAnarchist Senior Member Member of the Month Aug 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close ArtisticAnarchist]

1) But if raping women with large penises lead to tears within the vagina, and those tears lead to an infection, wouldn't that still be counterproductive to reproduction?

2) I'm primarily referring to "cavemen" who had non-humans killing them on a regular basis.

I still give you an A for effort, it's an interesting topic to ponder.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

ATTENTION, GUYS>>>>> Start your own thread if you want to discuss Caveman sex & reproduction. I don't think this was the intended direction of the OP's initial inquiry.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

So I was thinking, if most of the members on this site, are well above average, why do we have this insecurities about our junk. For me even when I started looking back I was at the average mark, and the only feedback I got was negative, due to mainly relationship issues not my size. That being said is the women we've been with projecting their insecurities on us. Or are all the studies garbage and we all have tiny dicks, if that's the case good thing we're all here, playing catch up. Any of you all want to weigh in on why mostly above average and large guys are trying to go beyond the norm, please do, for me now it's all ego.

Guys who are insecure about their size are most like insecure about much of their lives. I've said this a hundred times, when you walk up to a women she doesn't know your penis size. Talk about how big you are and most will run away from you.

Sorry guys the weak and feeble don't do well in dating. I mean weak and feeble thinking. It's a matter of presenting yourself, just like a job intervue or a tryout for anything. Women do not come to your door looking for you, you have to make the effort to go find them. Women will not like that you can't hold a conversation or look like you want to run for it. You have to make your intentions clear to a point and come up with some reason why she should be around you.