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  • #61
    Everyone does PE for different reasons, I agree and disagree with both of you.

    When a man feels comfortable with his size, like he might be with his appearance or age, weight, what have you, he becomes more relaxed and confident, and that's the most important thing. Not saying that penis size relates to confidence as a whole, it just increases what you already have. If I wasn't 6'8 and I had a different name, I'd be happy with what I had when I first started. Every woman I've been with has always had a pretty little smile when they see what I have. Even more so, since I've done PE. The only reason why I'm doing PE and whatnot is because of my name, haha. We all have our reasons.

    Sure the average is something at this time; I believe it's 5.5-6.5 BPEL and 4.0-4.5 EG. And yes it's about what you do that counts. But men aren't doing PE for women, they're doing it for themselves, or at least they should be. The reason why that's the average is because some men start off big with over 7" BPEL and some start off as small as 4" BPEL. What you're suggesting is like saying: "Why do you guys workout everyday or every other day to keep fit?" Or, "Why do you ladies workout everyday or every other day to stay nice and firm?" Find that answer out and you'll know why the average person in society PEs. Because of standards.

    Now is there such thing as unhealthy bodily changes, of course. Some girls (not women to me) I know stick their finger down there throat. And a few guys I know like to pump themselves with lots of steroids to try to meet their goals faster. And some guys obsess about PE and overwork themselves and they wonder why they don't gain.

    Let's change the average, it's within our power. If you're happy with your size, then you don't need PE. My brother is happy with his size, and he's smaller than average.
    Larger
    Senior Member
    Last edited by Larger; 05-01-2009, 01:54 PM. Reason: I pressed the submit button on acciddent...
    "Why pay for what you can get free"
    How PE Works
    (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
    (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
    (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

    Lesson: PE WORKS
    "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
    PE90X Routine

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    • #62
      Let me ask you: if there were no women and you were straight, would you still PE? I wouldn't. It's an attention thing, I simply want that kind of attention from the ladies. Just like I want attention for having a great body, so I work out. So I'm not doing PE for myslef after all. But it's all the more motivating, because it feels like I have to do this. If I was doing it for myself, I wouldn't give a damn. Let's face it, we're all whores

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      • #63
        We are getting off topic a bit, but I will indulge this further. I am fine with thinking about this logically. I presume you are stipulating that we have another form for reproduction. If my name was the same as it was, and I learned about their meaning the way I have, then yes I would still PE, because I'm a competitive person. And I would want to be larger than the guys.

        Trust me, size doesn't mean you can bang every women you come in contact with, you need style, swagger, and sincerity. And I'm selfish, we all are, and those who have a healthy bodies live longer than those who are obese, that's obvious. I've never had complaints in anyway from the women I've encountered, I'm purely doing this so that I live up to my name.

        Some men who are married are doing this to spice up their sex live, sure. But in impressing their wife, they will be serving themselves by possibly getting more sex. So in the end, we are doing PE and working out for ourselves.
        "Why pay for what you can get free"
        How PE Works
        (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
        (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
        (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

        Lesson: PE WORKS
        "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
        PE90X Routine

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        • #64
          Has any of you experience any temporary side efects from "porn detox" like: nervosity, hung-up, mood fluctuation?

          I am tring to figure out if my temporary fluctuations this days comes from the absence of porn. It is unusual for my not being able to know why I have a particular behavior.
          VRSelector is a directory with adult vr videos. You get to test videos from multiple places before you decide to pay for a subscription.

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          • #65
            well count me in on this...i found out the other day when i just had the urge to masturbate and didn't have access to any porn i couldn't get it up past 70% *sigh*
            so starting today i deleted every bit that i had and i'm in for the long haul...keep it up guys


            HetroErectus - to me it sounds like you're doing everything for the wrong reasons and you are trying to pull other people in to make you feel better about yourself...for me, i'm doing PE for me, not the ladies..i've never had any complaints in the lady department. i do agree with you in the aspect that every man would like to have a larger penis reguardless of your size, it's just part of the man ego i feel. Some may have insecurities about their size and do PE because of this, but i feel that after they do it for a bit, they find out that there is more to it than just gaining size...IT JUST FEELS GOOD! lol

            As for working out, i do know today most men do it so they can attract women but if you actually pay attention when you go out, look at all the girls that are "hot" and look at the guy they are with, most of the time they look average to below average (to what she looks like)...this is proven fact that most women don't care if you look like a bodybuilder since most of the guys walking around like that these days have their own issues that they are covering up. I workout at the gym and have a fit body but i do it becuase i played baseball all the way through college, it's just something that i do for myself.

            but i'm not knocking on you or arguing, i just think that everyone does it for SOME reason, maybe to impress a girl or to cure ED...but when it comes down to it, you are doing it for yourself even though you think it's just for a girl...but best reguards and happy gaining!
            super_size_me
            Member
            Last edited by super_size_me; 05-12-2009, 07:01 PM.
            Start (4/21/09)
            • FL - 4.00
            • FG - 4.50
            • NBPEL - 6.25
            • BPEL - 6.55
            • EG - 5.00
            1st month update (5/26/29)
            • FL - 4.5
            • FG - 5.2
            • NBPEL - 6.5
            • BPEL - 7.0
            • EG - 5.25

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            • #66
              been addicted since my early thirteens :$ can't stop wont stop why stop <3
              Start October 7th 2009:

              Current: BPEL: 6" EG: 4.25
              Short Goal: 7" / 5"
              Main Goal: 8" / 6"

              Shawty's like a melody in my head
              Routine, Thoughts and Progress log
              https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-real-3-a.html

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              • #67
                Happy to say I haven't looked at porn since before the 21st of september! yay
                Goal: Huge

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                • #68
                  Sounds good. I feel guilty everytime I watch. I don't know exactly how long it's been since the last time I watched porn but it's definately been at least a few weeks.

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                  • #69
                    GOOD FOR YOU GUYS!!!! I watch porn once in a while (alone mostly) I def. DONT have an addiction but I understand how this could become a problem for a male (your much more visually stimulated and usually higher sex drives than us). I think that porn makes us become lazy minded. Also for the same reason I RARELY EVER use a "personal massager" LOL (a dildo) I feel like the more we add to our masturbation sessions the less we desire the real thing. When I masturbate I only use my hands and my imagination. Sometimes I feel like I'm cheating my boyfriend by watching porn because if I wasnt watch strangers fuck, I would be thinking about fucking him...right? So I watch porn when I feel like my boyfriends neglecting me, thats pretty often. Its like I do it to one up him and he doesnt even know I'm getting even. Ohhhh come on its not that bad...Im human what can I say? lol.
                    A hard man is good to find.

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                    • #70
                      I'm bumping this one as I started a porn detox a couple of days ago... my 'toxicity level' had creeped up pretty high... blasted altporn!

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                      • #71
                        I'm getting rid of porn all together, i used to use it throughout my routine. I had tremendous gains, 2 inches in little over a year, and nearly 1 in in girth. But now, after my big break up with my GF, as well as my crutch becoming heavier, i have had some erection problems. I will get hard with a girl, but it wont last very long because i feel like i need constant stimulation. I am doing kingpoles routine now, and i just started drinking green tea, and i have cut out all porn and even fantasizing during routines in order to focus on feeling. I use vaseline for jelqing and edging, because i cannot do it dry, i had scrotalization when i was young and it can cause discomfort doing any dry jelqing or masturbating.
                        06/22/09: BPEL: 6.4" EG 5.0"
                        07/25/09 BPEL:6.8" EG 5.1"
                        08/21/09 BPEL:7.25" EG 5.1"
                        10/24/09 BPEL: 7.75" EG 5.15"
                        2/23/10 BPEL: 8.0" EG 5.2"
                        2/10/11 BPEL 8.25''
                        2/10/11 - 7/23/2012 hiatus
                        7/23/2012 restarting PE
                        BPEL: 7.95" AEG: 5.25
                        Goals
                        BPEL: 8.25" AEG:6"

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                        • #72
                          I'm still struggling with not watching porn but I'm doing alot better. I also think it has damaged my EQ big time.
                          Current goals: Lose weight, ditch porn completely and get in the habit of PE again.

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                          • #73
                            I'm in. No more porn for me... until I watch it again (which I only use to do squeezes and uli's anyways)
                            A Bigger Beginning w/ Dante311 - Log
                            NEW LOG!

                            May '15 - 6.9" BP
                            GOAL - 7.5 BP

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                            • #74
                              Hmm... I'll give it a shot. I'm not sure if starting PE at the same time of quitting porn is in the cards for me. Maybe one step at a time. We'll see how long I can last.
                              8-1-10 11-1-11
                              BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
                              BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
                              MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
                              NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
                              BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"

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                              • #75
                                I have nearly 1TB porn on my external hard drive .... and it's getting bigger (this one Bluray quality porn takes 23.2gb)

                                damn....
                                AP90 member.

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