Tragedy in CT

[helpontheway24 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close helpontheway24]

Very unfortunate. I can only hope for a brighter future in America. I come from a state that has gone through many mass shootings including schools . Its very disheartening to see how much hatred we bread in our society. I send my thoughts and best wishes to those who have been affected by this disgusting act.

[billywilliams Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close billywilliams]

Islander I think you are very sensitive and very kind hearted. This is a very good trait and very rare in men. Most people think of them selves and do look at the world surrounding them. People should try to have compassion for other people.

[jmack Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jmack]

Everytime I think about it, it makes me sad. It's so messed up and especially children...damn

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

The devil open fired in a school, killed at least 27 including 18 little kids!That bastard will rot in hell!

Latest news report says he shot his mother in the head first before going to the school. There he killed 20 children and six adults before taking his own life.
Pres. Obama broke down in a press conference after the news of the massacre at the elementary school.

This whole event just made me feel sick to the stomach when I heard it today.

May they all rest in peace !

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

Euro countries have little of these tragic events and low non miltary firearm owenership.

But then there was that huge massacre in Norway carried out by that right-wing lunatic. With something like 60 or 70 people killed for "political reasons". In reality, a deranged individual can get his hands on firearms regardless to what country he resides.

What is most disturbing over here in the US, is the increasing frequency in the number of killing sprees taking place nationwide. Then there are the botched attempts to wreak the same carnage, where in certain cases the gun jams during the shooting. The deadly intent is still there to kill as many innocent people as possible.

Many if not all of the perps lived seemingly normal lives up till the killings. It becomes increasingly hard if not impossible for the police to thwart their plans, before they are put into action.
I really hope we are not living in a time, where those committing these crimes, are not trying to outdo each other, in terms of overall loss and destruction in their wake.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

Its very sad and disheartening to think about all the monsters that live among us. This is some of the most tragic events that I have memory of. I was hopeing that the focus of this tragedy would be with the victims but after seeing Obama speak out on it, I can already see its being politicised to push through more gun control. Like Rahm Emanuel said " Never let a good crisis go to waste".

[MikeShlort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MikeShlort]

The mentally challenged will always be used as a reason to take away liberties from the other 99% of the citizens. I mean, what do they care? They all kill themselves and everyone around them, anyways. What do they care if they are helping take away our means of fighting human enslavement?

[RelaxedGuy80 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RelaxedGuy80]

Why cant you just admit that owning 100 round drum magazines, extended hi cap pistol mags, assault rifles, lasers, rangefinders, night vision and a whole host of other things are complete excess?

When was the last time any of these things were used to defend ones family from a enemy ARMY...NEVER THAT'S WHEN!

All a man needs is a simple long rifle, shotgun and a revolver for carry use. This is how it was in the good old days and people still survived and protected themselves and their families.

I don't see any total bans on guns coming just the unnecessary excess military style stuff, its fair and its reasonable.

[MikeShlort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MikeShlort]

Why cant you just admit that owning 100 round drum magazines, extended hi cap pistol mags, assault rifles, lasers, rangefinders, night vision and a whole host of other things are complete excess?

When was the last time any of these things were used to defend ones family from a enemy ARMY...NEVER THAT'S WHEN!

All a man needs is a simple long rifle, shotgun and a revolver for carry use. This is how it was in the good old days and people still survived and protected themselves and their families.

I don't see any total bans on guns coming just the unnecessary excess military style stuff, its fair and its reasonable.

I don't know the laws in the States but here in Canada, I think they are trying to have the right of owning rifles and revolvers go by the wayside. So then what will happen is someone will kill 12 people with two revolvers and then they will ban revolvers for everyone.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

Why cant you just admit that owning 100 round drum magazines, extended hi cap pistol mags, assault rifles, lasers, rangefinders, night vision and a whole host of other things are complete excess?

When was the last time any of these things were used to defend ones family from a enemy ARMY...NEVER THAT'S WHEN!

All a man needs is a simple long rifle, shotgun and a revolver for carry use. This is how it was in the good old days and people still survived and protected themselves and their families.

I don't see any total bans on guns coming just the unnecessary excess military style stuff, its fair and its reasonable.

Once they ban the items you mentioned they will then call a bolt action deer rifle an assault sniper rifle and then ban that. Their agenda is total disarmourment. If you think gun control works to do anything more than to disarm the law abiding then hang a look at the lack of gun violence in Mexico, Chicago or DC. I also can't help but notice you don't seem to place any culpability on the asshole that did this. Btw- So far it looks like he did this with several handguns and not any of the items you mentioned. The problem is a people problem not inanimate objects. The solution is to end the policies that create unarmed victim zones, i.e. " gun free zones" because criminals dont give a shit about the law.

[RelaxedGuy80 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RelaxedGuy80]

You missed the point completely. There will always be and should be room for practical guns and responsible gun ownership in a society.

We will see if the glocks used had high cap mags, like in the Tuscon Arizona shooting.

Most Americans including me are willing to protect the 2nd amendment, if you are willing to give up the unnecessary military style stuff.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

All a man needs is a simple long rifle, shotgun and a revolver for carry use. This is how it was in the good old days and people still survived and protected themselves and their families.

I am assuming you are talking about the 1800's here. What civilians typically owned was actually more advanced than what the military had. Repeating rifles like the Henry, Winchester 1866, 1873 and 1894 were commonplace in civilian hands. The military didn't convert to repeaters until the late 1800's when they adopted the bolt action Krag Jorgenson rifle. The lever action repeaters were the "assault rifle" of their day.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

you missed the point completely.

No I didn't. You seem to have little regard for personnel liberty or the constitution.

You ever read the Bill of rights?

Just noticed you listed a rangefinder among your list of things to be banned. Care to explain the logic behind that? Have there been a rash of rangefinder crimes I am unaware of?

[MikeShlort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MikeShlort]

I think a good analogy to use is drugs. They are illegal to sell and buy. There are many laws and strategies in place to try to prevent drugs from being produced in the country and also from entering the country. But dealers and addicts still sell and buy drugs daily. The only thing the laws do is help set the price higher. Most folk stay away from that sort of activity or are very careful with acquiring the drugs safely and consuming them in a manner which won't get them caught. But to a criminal, ie an addict or a dealer, they are going to break all sorts of laws to do what they want. Guns can be looked at the same way. All the laws will do is make it tougher for non criminals to acquire them, and more expensive for those who have connections to black markets ie criminals.

Now, is it fair to say banning legal purchasing of guns will keep them out of kids' hands more? Probably. But then, they could still acquire them illegally, which would be harder to do, but I doubt the supply would be that drastically shortened to make it that much harder to acquire an illegal gun than it is now. And of course, all the criminals who have these types of connections will all still have guns. Black market arms dealers will make more profit off their businesses. It will just be difficult for Billy 9-5 who doesn't have connections to criminals to own a gun. He will likely have to break the law to acquire one.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

You missed the point completely. There will always be and should be room for practical guns and responsible gun ownership in a society.

We will see if the glocks used had high cap mags, like in the Tuscon Arizona shooting.

Most Americans including me are willing to protect the 2nd amendment, if you are willing to give up the unnecessary military style stuff.

Do you really think they will stop with the so called "assault rifles" and high cap magizines. They never take away liberties in one fell swoop. It always happens in incriments. Curious what do you define as an "assault rifle"? Also who decides what is a " practical" firearm. The government?