My (our) Problem with Obamacare!

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Nah I'm not leaving my country. I'll work to change it for the better. If there is a better country out there in the world I haven't yet found it and I don't think I will in my lifetime.

[Knoblin Banned, Troll Find all posts View Profile Close Knoblin]

sure glad our health care system is better here in Canada...yawn.

[somebodyelse Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close somebodyelse]

lol true.

[MrsLooking4more Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close MrsLooking4more]

Cusp I am with you about the baby care, child stuff, if it doesn't apply to me I shouldn't have to pay for it but then again there are going to be more of us older Americans going on medical services than the youngins bet that's going to tip everything off.

Yeah we just have to work at improving what we have after all the dumb politicians that voted for it, are already scrambling to vote changes to it, for things that they apparently were not aware about (What you did not read the bill before you voted for it? Scandalous!).

I don't mean any disrespect to my fellow Canadians but when I was in Watertown, New York there were plenty of Canadians coming over for routine surgeries such as (heart by passes, hernias, lung cancer, etc.) It was a quicker turn about here in the states and they had a two to three year wait back home. That will soon not be problem, it will be a three year wait here too.

[gettingb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gettingb]

Surely the principle of the whole health care thing is helping people who can't afford to pay for their treatment. Without going in to specifics, that to me is reason enough to support it.
Tax should be used for public services, as a Brit who grew up with the NHS, it's incomprehensible to me that people in the US wouldn't support healthcare.

[somebodyelse Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close somebodyelse]

Surely the principle of the whole health care thing is helping people who can't afford to pay for their treatment. Without going in to specifics, that to me is reason enough to support it.
Tax should be used for public services, as a Brit who grew up with the NHS, it's incomprehensible to me that people in the US wouldn't support healthcare.

"Quite weird" is an understatement, Peg. We'e one of the most fucked up, arrogant, socially
backward countries in the developed world.

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[anonymity Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close anonymity]

sure glad our health care system is better here in Canada...yawn.

I'm a Canadian native (grew up in the B.C mountains). My father in law is a pharmacist in Canada. My best friend's husband is a physician with the largest clinic in that city including 8 other doctors and of course my whole family lives with the Canadian health care system. Point is, when I moved to the BEAUTIFUL U.S.A I was pleasantly surprised at the quality and efficiency of any medical concerns I ever had. Back home it was much like Mr.Cusp described. Waiting for hours and hours with a sick child who should be home in bed A.S.A.P, only to see his assistant and then be told that they would call us with the next available appointment with the specialist SHE (not the doctor!!!) decided we needed. When the call comes (a week later) the appointment is for 6-8 WEEKS from now!!!!!!!! What do you mean???? You yourself saw that my child is not breathing well!!!!!!!!! "I'm sorry mam, but we will put you on our cancellation list."

Is this ideal?? Good thing the taxes are through the roof so there's NO WAY we could ever afford private insurance anyway. Can you say entitlement slavery?

[BigRooster Senior Member Member of the Month Apr 2018PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigRooster]

Surely the principle of the whole health care thing is helping people who can't afford to pay for their treatment. Without going in to specifics, that to me is reason enough to support it.
Tax should be used for public services, as a Brit who grew up with the NHS, it's incomprehensible to me that people in the US wouldn't support healthcare.

Because we are taxed out of the ass at every turn. These politicians who decided that this healthcare is so great for us. Have decided that for some reason unknown to the taxpayer isn't good enough for them. It isn't about healthcare it's about control. These commie politicians in office who think they know best just want to socialize us and take away our freedoms a little at a time. Something we had a little revolution about a few years back.

[somebodyelse Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close somebodyelse]

I'm a Canadian native (grew up in the B.C mountains). My father in law is a pharmacist in Canada. My best friend's husband is a physician with the largest clinic in that city including 8 other doctors and of course my whole family lives with the Canadian health care system. Point is, when I moved to the BEAUTIFUL U.S.A I was pleasantly surprised at the quality and efficiency of any medical concerns I ever had. Back home it was much like Mr.Cusp described. Waiting for hours and hours with a sick child who should be home in bed A.S.A.P, only to see his assistant and then be told that they would call us with the next available appointment with the specialist SHE (not the doctor!!!) decided we needed. When the call comes (a week later) the appointment is for 6-8 WEEKS from now!!!!!!!! What do you mean???? You yourself saw that my child is not breathing well!!!!!!!!! "I'm sorry mam, but we will put you on our cancellation list."

Is this ideal?? Good thing the taxes are through the roof so there's NO WAY we could ever afford private insurance anyway. Can you say entitlement slavery?

Horrible scenario... but what about the tens of millions to hundreds of millions in the USA who actually get absolutely zero treatment because their parents make too much money to be able to saddle into Medicare/Madicaid, and don't make enough to ensure their children. These children go without care, immunizations, and sometimes basic checkups because the procedures cost too much.

There's this blinder system a lot of americans wear that they wore during WWII... "it's got nothing to do with me, so I don't care."

Then when it hits them (pearl harbor) then it's "f*ck you kill everybody"... the same played out in 2001 with the multiple attacks launched on the US by outside sources in the middle of September. It was something brewing a LONG time and most people just looked at it like "damn that sucks for them... oh well." then it was "let's get them!"

There's something that smacks of ridiculousness when you look at the collective ignorance and arrogance of the American population. You have to wonder if they're happy to not know about the world and what it's doing around them or you have to think are they too jingoistic to care.

[MrsLooking4more Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close MrsLooking4more]

Is not that we do not support NHS, we support it if rolled out in a time frame that would allows us to get the personnel needed to have it (I am in the field).

Would you give one teacher 100 kids to take care of daily? NO, that would be crazy, well is what we are basically doing and now we are going to ask the the teacher aides to help the teacher, even though they don't have the same training.

[BigRooster Senior Member Member of the Month Apr 2018PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigRooster]

Horrible scenario... but what about the tens of millions to hundreds of millions in the USA who actually get absolutely zero treatment because their parents make too much money to be able to saddle into Medicare/Madicaid, and don't make enough to ensure their children. These children go without care, immunizations, and sometimes basic checkups because the procedures cost too much.
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There's this blinder system a lot of americans wear that they wore during WWII... "it's got nothing to do with me, so I don't care."

Then when it hits them (pearl harbor) then it's "f*ck you kill everybody"... the same played out in 2001 with the multiple attacks launched on the US by outside sources in the middle of September. It was something brewing a LONG time and most people just looked at it like "damn that sucks for them... oh well." then it was "let's get them!"

There's something that smacks of ridiculousness when you look at the collective ignorance and arrogance of the American population. You have to wonder if they're happy to not know about the world and what it's doing around them or you have to think are they too jingoistic to care.

If there parents make too much money more than likely they have a decent paying job. Where their employer has offered insurance to them and their family. Not a parasite that sucks off of the system. Is there people who need to be on medicare? Yes there is. A friend of mine got popped in the eye with a softball. He went to the ER? Some lady was talking with a friend of hers in there. She said she was suffering from a headache all day. What did you take for it? Nothing that's why I came to the ER. They'll give me something. That is a leech. The price they are going to charge for the time and meds, which more than likely will be Tylenol. Will be more than what it would have cost for the to buy her own bottle of Tylenol.


You are DAMN right. There are a lot of jingoes in this country. We live in the greatest country on this planet. Whenever something goes wrong in the world. Who they call? The USA. Yet the still hate us. Arrogant? YES! Proud? Definitely! It's not a collective ignorance. It is a collective stupidity. A large percentage just don't want to wake up and see there country and freedoms taken away from them.

[anonymity Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close anonymity]

Amen Mr. Big Rooster!!! Amen.

[BigRooster Senior Member Member of the Month Apr 2018PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigRooster]

Obama signed this thing into law in 2010. They had three years to get this fiasco from the get go ready. Rollout date comes and it is a complete flop. Obama care and The affordable healthcare act are the same thing. The only ones that it is affordable for is the moochers.

[LilNudeDude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LilNudeDude]

I'm staying out of this one. It'll only aggravate me.

It is a great and grand IDEA. However, only three words can possibly describe the entire fisaco that is Obama Care.

PISS POOR PLANNING!!!!

That's it. I'm out of this one.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Can't please everyone. I like the plan. I can finally get insurance and I could not before. Why not you all may ask. I will tell you.

Because unlike many lazy worthless people in America I work and don't qualify for shit.

The country finally gets a plan and still the whining bitching masses complain and cry. The only people in our country that had insurance before were on welfare.

Not enough doctors dome say, well then sit down, shut our dick trap and wait. Or try this, don't go unless your really sick.