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  • #16
    I have a theory that some we're raised to believe it is wrong to touch yourself. PE collides with that causing such inner turmoil that a few are unable to reconcile.
    Some then conclude that it is fake, or it cannot ever work, or that until they see undoctored before and after pictures that it cannot be real. In a few rare cases, some have come to think that too much touching can cause you to wear eyeglasses.
    We need more compassion for the unbelievers. Hey, can't we all just get along ?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dangler View Post
      I have a theory that some we're raised to believe it is wrong to touch yourself. PE collides with that causing such inner turmoil that a few are unable to reconcile.
      Some then conclude that it is fake, or it cannot ever work, or that until they see undoctored before and after pictures that it cannot be real. In a few rare cases, some have come to think that too much touching can cause you to wear eyeglasses.
      We need more compassion for the unbelievers. Hey, can't we all just get along ?

      Good one Dangler. I was brought up that way.....but not anymore,,,,,I touch myself anywhere I go!! ;-)
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      • #18
        Some of it is ignorance, some of it is the desire for some to appear "smart" by parroting what they've read or heard from "authority" figures, and a lot is the crabs in a bucket mindset.

        Let's put aside the matter of enlargement for a moment and consider enhancement- improving stamina, control, and (most important) emotional well being and confidence. Some of you older men can relate to seeing how much less secure younger men appear- and this is not the generation gap we're talking about, either!

        It's quite difficult to not be conspiracy minded or appear paranoid when you consider that this forum gets attacked very frequently on a concerted basis. Ask some of the high level mods an admins just what goes on behind the scenes here just to keep the forum clean of hackers, trolls, and spammers. That stuff has been going on non-stop for years now.

        Who benefits from keeping men in a fear based mindset. Who benefits from keeping men from becoming their own sources of healing and from seeing benevolent communities like this flourish.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dangler View Post
          I have a theory that some we're raised to believe it is wrong to touch yourself. PE collides with that causing such inner turmoil that a few are unable to reconcile.
          Some then conclude that it is fake, or it cannot ever work, or that until they see undoctored before and after pictures that it cannot be real. In a few rare cases, some have come to think that too much touching can cause you to wear eyeglasses.
          We need more compassion for the unbelievers. Hey, can't we all just get along ?
          Not sex itself (which is a necessary biological function and is something that can be elevated to express one of our highest forms of love for another), but the massive negative emotional side effects that stem from a failure to master sexuality can be seen as the root of all of humanity's problems.

          Add guilt and taboo to the mix and you truly have a recipe for insanity.
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          • #20
            Penis surgery doctors! Even in the relatively short time I have been, the shills for penis surgery doctors are very apparent, you can smell them a mile off. They nearly always follow the same patterns, a ghost account for a few years or months with little to no posts or questions on the forum, then out of the blue this long post saying they permanently injured themselves and they have went to tonnes of doctors and that they want to warn all people on here off PE, etc. Luckily, very little to nobody ever buys their bullshit!

            Originally posted by Big Al View Post
            Who benefits from keeping men in a fear based mindset. Who benefits from keeping men from becoming their own sources of healing and from seeing benevolent communities like this flourish.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by kickinthemebs View Post
              Penis surgery doctors! Even in the relatively short time I have been, the shills for penis surgery doctors are very apparent, you can smell them a mile off. They nearly always follow the same patterns, a ghost account for a few years or months with little to no posts or questions on the forum, then out of the blue this long post saying they permanently injured themselves and they have went to tonnes of doctors and that they want to warn all people on here off PE, etc. Luckily, very little to nobody ever buys their bullshit!
              They top the list for those directly opposed to "DIY" PE, but consider the larger entities who derive benefit from keeping men insecure and using sex is a form of control.

              When a man is not the master of his emotions, emotional predators can key in on their weaknesses and guide him to ruin.
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              • #22
                I'll go down in my history saying if you still get erections make it the best Eq you can. F the length and girth with Eq you can talk to my vagina my clitoris my mouth my mind and it's awesome.
                If you don't get erections anymore you can still be one hell of a lover and hopefully have a partner who loves you because it's in our skin. The touch. The kiss. Your FINGERS. Man, lips are so fantastic. Mmmmmmm
                Ahhh love making. So wonderful.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by islander View Post
                  I'll go down in my history saying if you still get erections make it the best Eq you can. F the length and girth with Eq you can talk to my vagina my clitoris my mouth my mind and it's awesome.
                  If you don't get erections anymore you can still be one hell of a lover and hopefully have a partner who loves you because it's in our skin. The touch. The kiss. Your FINGERS. Man, lips are so fantastic. Mmmmmmm
                  Ahhh love making. So wonderful.
                  Hello...........Vienna calling! ;-)
                  Dick Whammy at your Cervix!

                  Yes, I've had my heart broken, but STILL got my dick. No one will ever take it away from me!

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                  • #24
                    Well I'm very glad I'm a stubborn mule.. How can it not work when I have gained so much in the last year proving to myself it does.. I personally figured there was no hope outside of surgery or pills, because of all the negative things I have read online, until of course I started to lurk on here.. One of the big ones that stuck out to me was a guy claiming hanging even light does nothing more then cause ED!? So glad I didn't listen to him!! just after 2 days of rest I get erections that feel like I could jack hammer concrete!! .. I say too there is money to be made pills and surgery.. Powers that be don't want that to be debunked that u can increase size with nothing more then some knowledge and your hand.. It really is all that is needed.. I AM A BELIEVER BABY!!!
                    Start: 11/2013: BPEL: 4.73" MEG: 4.5"
                    Best: BPEL: 7" MEG: 5.625"
                    Current:BPEL: 7" MEG: 5.5"

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                    • #25
                      Good question OP and good analogy with the saturated fats.
                      I'm sure that there are dozens of similar analogies to be made between what the medical community/popular belief were X years ago and what they are now.

                      Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if 10-20 years from now PE will become some "mainstream-matter-of-fact" thing.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by master-gauge View Post
                        Well I'm very glad I'm a stubborn mule.. How can it not work when I have gained so much in the last year proving to myself it does.. I personally figured there was no hope outside of surgery or pills, because of all the negative things I have read online, until of course I started to lurk on here.. One of the big ones that stuck out to me was a guy claiming hanging even light does nothing more then cause ED!? So glad I didn't listen to him!! just after 2 days of rest I get erections that feel like I could jack hammer concrete!! .. I say too there is money to be made pills and surgery.. Powers that be don't want that to be debunked that u can increase size with nothing more then some knowledge and your hand.. It really is all that is needed.. I AM A BELIEVER BABY!!!
                        Take this a step further and picture men overcoming impotence and insecurity- along with the catalysts like "porn addiction".

                        We have so much more power within ourselves that many of us have been led to believe!
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                        • #27
                          For the general public, I think it's a combination of not wanting to put in the time, and also not believing it is possible. I know for myself I was a skeptic for years, and never bothered until recently. I mean, how can pulling on your penis actually make it longer? Wouldn't everyone be doing if that was the case?

                          Fast forward to (almost) 2 months later, and just by pulling/stretching maybe 15 mins a day and some jelqing (I really should do more), I'm 0.45x0.1 bigger than I was. All I can say is too bad when I first really started thinking about this 3-4 years ago I didn't give it an actual go...maybe I'd be 8x6 or bigger already (and yes, I am kicking myself right now. lol)
                          Original/Current Stats:
                          2014-09-01: BPEL 6.8"/NBPEL 6" MEG 5.0", BPFL 5"/NBPFL 4" FG 4.4"
                          2019-03-16: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"

                          Goals:
                          Realistic: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" MEG 5.5"
                          Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75"
                          Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"

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