So after all of this time you never went to see a specialist. i am not trying to be argumentive but it seems that if it was important and ruining your life you would have actually done something about it. this makes it hard to believe that you have suffered an injury that has impacted your life so much. I do hope you get it resolved.
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Even if you are so unfortunate not to heal from the injury, and that we theoretically eliminate any depression, I can predict one thing from the special knowledge I wrote about: By time you will enjoy sex again, probably just as fully as before. The physical sensation may be the same as today, but your brain will likely adjust.Originally posted by Tesla.86 View PostI understand your view, the point is iam driven psychologically, but i dont get real aroused anymore just sometimes when a girl says dirty things to me then my friends moves a bit sometimes get fully erect but for example i did get some BJ and didnt feel anything down there even i was driven in my head. I can still orgasm thats a fact but rubbing my friend is like rubbing an arm, when out of the nowhere are short weak feeling comes up und leads to orgasm. There is no plateau stage where i can enjoy really sex. Its an devilscircle.
I forgot to add that with most spinal cord injured people that suffered sexually from it, it took months or a few years before they told that they would appreciate sexual stimulation as much as they did prior to the injury. (The brain adjusting.) Although it remained differently than before of course.
PS! I do take your post and warning seriously. Know that I respect your experience and views.
My best hopes for your forthcoming test, and that you will heal from your injury.
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Ive seen many docs but mainly because i felt like crap, had tons of blood panels done. At that time i didnt recognized its was all due to the damage but they were the sideeffects. Before the incident i was a damn happy person, i was around guys taking ecstasy and was even happier. And i remember a few weeks after the incident i did get a BJ and i stopped it because i felt nothing, at that point i still thought i am just stressed and have no sexdrive. But thats just wrong, you know the feeling if you stay abstinence that the penis feels more sensitive and "good" while peeing and stuff like that. Well that doesnt occur anymore, because the nerves for the transmission of that special feelings are dead. They sensitivity before was so high when i showerd after my workouts and a drop of water was hitting my glans i did those "electric shocks" and now i can take a needle and stick it into it. I sounds scary but thats what it is.Originally posted by BigO View PostSo after all of this time you never went to see a specialist. i am not trying to be argumentive but it seems that if it was important and ruining your life you would have actually done something about it. this makes it hard to believe that you have suffered an injury that has impacted your life so much. I do hope you get it resolved.
Listen guys in february ill do the sonography if anything is visible after that long time ill post the picture in here. I was already in an MRT with 3 Tesla to take a look if the Alcock canals where the nerves are running through are fine and they are. I know a guy who has pudendal nerve entrapment in the alcocks canal. I was having an conversation with him and he said that my feelings are not from the mind its like i said.
Because believe me, nobody else would be more happy than me that it would be just in my brain, bud sadly its not. Its an nightmare. Iam like lostintorture2.
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All I can say is best of luck, I hope they find the cause of your issues so you can get back to normal.Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before
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Thanks ino. I know what you mean, but i think after 7,5 years it will not get better, mainly because the peripheral nerves heal up to 18 months after that time they stop looking for each others nerveend. I tried so many things like abstinence, prolactine blockers, make-you-horny-like-dog-supplements, even test shot. The only thing that rose was my psychologically drive but not whole body shiver. I know its difficult to describe but what you can only do is to believe me and the guys who killed their nerves and lost their sexdrive. I have no hope left that it gets better i just want a diagnosis and i hope with the new ultrasound technique it gets visible. I considered things like nerve transplant already but lets be realistic it wont work thats science fiction.
All i can say is like lostintorture (hope youre alive buddy) said, i would rather have am 10cm ED penis with some pleasure than an 30cm rockhardone with no pleasure. The pleasure what you get and makes you exited comes directly from the nerves and triggers an hormone release in the head. I had J Lo likes bootys on my friend and dont feel a thing - thats pure horror. Take all i got my house my car my work everything and set my out into the jungle naked but with my friend working.
Not just my friend was taken from me, way worse my whole life.
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Two guys have a cough and it's identical. They talk about it and they have all the same symptoms so they both don't go to a doctor. Hell it's only a cold. Well for one it is; the other one has lung cancer. Now maybe if the guy with the cancer went to the doctor he may have had a better chance of living.
When two people that are not medically trained discuss symptoms they invaraiably end up with the same thing the other guy has and if they don't have all the symptoms of the other guy sooner or later they will. You have spent 7 1/2 years and still haven't inverstigated the source of your ailment to the point of seeing a specialist and getting a definitive diagnosis. What didi the doctors find that you went to? According to one of your posts you said they said you were normal. Did you beleive them? Nope! So if you don't believe the doctors when they said you were normal then it must mean that you're a doctor and you know better. If a doctor ever says to me I'm normal then that's great. I want to beleive him. I really don't want him to tell me I've got a problem ( and we all know I have many of them). Some folks go to the doctor not wanting to beleive what he will tell them. They have already closed their mind to anything he will say. Well then why go? I hear it all the time. My buddy was told by his doc that he had high blood pressure but he also told me that the guy really doesn't know what he's talking about and is just trying to make money and sell medicine. Really? So I took his blood pressure and then told him to leave my house. He asked why? I said because I don't want you having your stroke at my house. His bp was 158/ 125 and he's 46 years old.
Okay so you're convinced that your problem is physical? Then your job as a patient is to go to every doctor you must go to, specialist included, to seek out the physical cause for you issue. Instead of lamenting about the past and you shouldn't have done what you did 7 1/2 years ago go and do something about it. Persoanlly in my lkif my dick has gone through so much abuse it is amazing it didn't fall off. Kicked, smashed on bicycle handle bars, pulled, twisted, punched and knee'ed in fights and on and on. I find it hard to think that one can actually cause permanent damge to one's dick by oneself even if you hit it with a hammer. Okay go get fixed.The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!
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I kind of agree. The potential risks of PE, which I think are downplayed by almost everyone, outweigh the benefits. For me they have.
Someone will invariably chime in saying that you did it wrong, if done correctly it is safe, yada yada. Its almost comical, someone will be having EQ issues after a PE injury and half of the suggestions are other PE techniques. I honestly think some people are purposefully trying to cause injury to others. Others simply haven't experienced damage, or are so obsessed with the idea of growing their member that they are blind to the dangers.
The way humans think is not looking for contradictions to what we believe, but looking for answers that go hand in hand with our thoughts. If you think PE is safe and practice it, you will vehemently deny that is is dangerous if done correctly. Yet there are many who have been injured. They get brushed under the carpet.
Your friends heart attack was likely from a heart condition that he had. Just like sometimes ED sometimes occurs naturally.
But PE greatly enhances the risks of ED, and for me caused ED. I had to have surgery to fix it, and i'm still having issues because my stitches that tied of the vein came out. I am confident they can get them back in and i will regain my correction.
Im sorry Tesla for your loss. I know how it feels. Unfortunately my ED wasn't my primary issue.
I had surgery 4 days ago, here is a picture of my pelvis now: imgur: the simple image sharer
So you can see that my penis isn't my priority. But as soon as my pelvis is fixed, it will be.
And even though i've sustained injuries, I still would like a larger penis even though i KNOW that it is dangerous. Its insanity. People do stupid things. Some people are driven to suicide from permanent ED.
What really blows my mind are threads like "how will you tell your child about PE". What if he is one of the unlucky ones who damages his unit. Do you think he will ever forgive you?
The dangers and risks simply ARE NOT apparent until they have manifested, and by then it is too late.
PE at your own risk. I dont doubt that for some it is actually beneficial. But to make a blanket statement that PE increases penile health in all cases, is completely false and very irresponsible.
Anyways. Im in the hospital right now so i'll have lots of time on my hands these next few weeks as i recovery from my pelvic osteotomy.
I just want my penis to work fine again. My urologist never gave me post op directions after my superficial venous ligation, so i masturbated too early. I am lucky in that I can still pinpoint the problem vein and tie it off.
Im rambling now. Anyways good luck tesla, NEVER GIVE UP HOPE, see a doctor and if he doesn't help you, see another. Do your research. There is a cure for everything, even if we havent found it yet.
They said my pelvic asymmetry was uncurable and to live with chronic pain. I opted for surgery. I had to have two surgeries now. And I regret nothing. Except PE, which damaged my penis. If i ever PE again, it will be a very light pumping routine, for like 5 minutes a day, every day, or perhaps simply edging. My tool is too precious to me to jeopardize again.Starting Stats: BPEL 5.75x4.45
Now: BPEL 6.25x4.6
Short Term Goal: 6.25 BPELx4.7 Girth
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And to you sir, i say, look at the injury sections. Google ED from jelqing. Are you really so blind to the risks? Im glad you have gained and have improved your EQ. But to say it is a safe practice, comparable to cardiovascular exercise. is absolutely insane.Originally posted by alan020 View PostI am not doing it for my ego (you dont need capital letters for it, its not an abbreviation of anything), and actually implying that I am doing it for my ego, is just going to piss me off, seen as you do not know any of the reasons I do PE.
I do it for to have better penile health and better erections which I have achieved since I started, I have a long term girlfriend so my ego is irrelevant because I know she loves me unconditionally. I am not short in confidence in life I have the right mix between confidence and cockiness which I do not have.
If PE is not good for your health please prove it to me? A medical study? 100's of people it hasnt worked for?
In the end of the day there is 1000's of people who have been successful on this site, MOS, thunders and plenty others. If you need proof that it works, and that it is not dangerous, spend a few weeks reading on these sites and I think you will see.Starting Stats: BPEL 5.75x4.45
Now: BPEL 6.25x4.6
Short Term Goal: 6.25 BPELx4.7 Girth
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Also, my first pelvic surgery slightly stretched my sciatic nerve. Now i have drop foot in my left leg. This is from a minor stretch injury.Originally posted by CUSP82 View PostNerves are really tough things. You can stretch them, bend them, twist them, and they still work. Hell sometimes you can even cut them and if given enough time they tend to heal. Oh they can be fussy at times but they're really hard to permanently injure.
You are spreading misinformation. Of course they CAN heal. But it is not very likely, especially if the lesion is far from the innervated muscle/skin/etc.
If you had permenant nerve injury, and had actually any idea what you were talking about, you wouldn't be so smug.
Stop picking on this guy. He is trying to give his perspective on his injury and how it has affected him. Just because others havent suffered the same way doesn't mean the next noob won't. Of course its no skin off your back. But look at people like UKGuy. You think he regrets doing PE? I bet he does. Maybe he's got phychological issues too. But you see my point? Hindsight is 20/20.Last edited by Dr Pepper; 12-31-2012, 10:38 AM.Starting Stats: BPEL 5.75x4.45
Now: BPEL 6.25x4.6
Short Term Goal: 6.25 BPELx4.7 Girth
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I understand you, i told the docs i lost my sexdrive and somewhat they believed me because they could see it in my eyes and they refered me to the endocrinologists and cardiologists and so on and nothing came out.
The point is my penis feels somewhat normal so it isnt complete numb, but its doenst give good pleasure anymore, and it gets so damn blue sometimes its fucking scary. Fact is i can say the nerve has an other E-module than the skin, which means if you strech an electrical cable the rubber round the wire maybe ok but the copper core maybe broken. And at first i believed the doctors what they said, because at that time i had no knowledge about medicine, trust me i did everything to help my self up with tons of supps i never took before and eating healty etc.
But dont think i did 7,5 years nothing, at that time i also became monoculeosis i believed it came from that and it can take a long time to heal, because there where some sportsman who finished their carrer after that illness and did get chronic fatigue syndrome or burn out like feeling.
What i really feel like is somewhat burnout - but i know the reason for it is downstairs. Believe it or not.Last edited by Tesla.86; 12-31-2012, 10:42 AM.
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Well I can't really say that I'm picking on the guy by telling him to do all that he should do medically to resolve that issue. As for spreading misinformation about nerves healing you mean they don't? You mean to tell me that someone with mandibular paresthesia will never regain the use and function of the tissue innervated by that nerve? Thankfully they do, as do many nerves that are damaged in the body. As for being smug, hey it's a Monday morning what do you expect?The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!
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Also, my tibialis anterior when it stopped working after surgery, was not detected by my doctor. My extensor hallucis longus (big toe extensor and ankle dorsiflexor) was able to compensate to the point where i could kind of move my foot up. Due to this, i had 2 specialists, a physical therapist, and multiple nurses tell me that my problem was in my head because my foot could move, so I must have a functioning tibialis anterior.Originally posted by CUSP82 View PostWhat didi the doctors find that you went to? According to one of your posts you said they said you were normal. Did you beleive them? Nope! So if you don't believe the doctors when they said you were normal then it must mean that you're a doctor and you know better. If a doctor ever says to me I'm normal then that's great. I want to beleive him. I really don't want him to tell me I've got a problem ( and we all know I have many of them). Some folks go to the doctor not wanting to beleive what he will tell them. They have already closed their mind to anything he will say. Well then why go? I hear it all the time. My buddy was told by his doc that he had high blood pressure but he also told me that the guy really doesn't know what he's talking about and is just trying to make money and sell medicine. Really? So I took his blood pressure and then told him to leave my house. He asked why? I said because I don't want you having your stroke at my house. His bp was 158/ 125 and he's 46 years old.
It wasn't until they palpated the actual tendon and performed the correct manual tests that they finally realized that i had been right all along. This why you must not always believe what doctors say. Take everything with a grain of salt.
Doctors are human and make mistakes just as any other person does. I also make mistakes. Such as damaging my cock with PE. My point being that many doctors are imcompetent or simply are not on the ball all the time.
Personally, as a medical student, and a patient, I have seen lots of incompetence in doctors. Even if they are the "best" around.Starting Stats: BPEL 5.75x4.45
Now: BPEL 6.25x4.6
Short Term Goal: 6.25 BPELx4.7 Girth
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Are you talking about from wisdom teeth removal? I cannot comment, because i didn't experience numb lip after mine were removed. It was a potential complication. I would assume that there would be some functional recovery, since the distance from the lesion to the mandible/lip/whatever is being innervated is small.Originally posted by CUSP82 View PostWell I can't really say that I'm picking on the guy by telling him to do all that he should do medically to resolve that issue. As for spreading misinformation about nerves healing you mean they don't? You mean to tell me that someone with mandibular paresthesia will never regain the use and function of the tissue innervated by that nerve? Thankfully they do, as do many nerves that are damaged in the body. As for being smug, hey it's a Monday morning what do you expect?
In the case of a penis, functional nerve recovery is also very likely, unless you have a very long penis :P
But for example, in my case, the lesion was at the level of the hip, causing loss of function in the lower leg. There is a very small chance it will recover, due to the very long distance from the lesion to the muscle. I pray it does, i exercise, take acetyl-l-carnatine, avoid tobacco and alcohol, and do what i can to allow the optimal environment for recovery. Yet i doubt it will come back because it is so far away.
I am surprised with tesla's nerve not coming back at all in 7.5 years. I doubt the injury was in his penis, although it is possible. He could have been on some meds that inhibit nerve growth factor. Honestly i dont know. I do however appreciate his warning to others of the dangers.Starting Stats: BPEL 5.75x4.45
Now: BPEL 6.25x4.6
Short Term Goal: 6.25 BPELx4.7 Girth
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And the point is what? That docs make mistakes? That things happen that are unforseen? That in trying to fix a broken body that sometimes things don't work out as planned? Hell why even go then? We should all just stay home and suffer and die. As a medical student then you yourseelf should realize that one day someone will be saying the same things about you; that you're incompetant. Oh you will hear that from many a patient that you treat and hey you might even hear it from other doctors as they try and correct what you did. Maybe before judging them try doing what they do and see how easy it really is.The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!
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Dr. Pepper thx for your support you are truely understanding my message and understanding the psychology whats behind every believe who someone has.
I just try and I am now objective, before the incident i was driven too. I believed also, but not in things or god, everytime i believed in me and thats why i went on and on and did my studying even if i was so tired i felt i couldnt breath, just the hope that iam gonna be one day myself again gave my energy to go on further.
Listen i got 4 sisters there all older than me i am the only son, and my dad is born 1928 and went trough war , what do you guys all believe what his expectations where on me. I had my things on my shoulders i tryed to make my dad proud i did everything in life which helped me to get me better.
NOW? i cant even please any woman, i had 3 relationsships which all broke up caused by that problem, and these where good gorgeous woman, they loved me really but they got desires i couldnt please. Imagine an 19 year old guy which had every opportunity in life sitting on the side of the bed seeing himself the first time crying?!
Life can be so great and for me it was i was smiling all the time thats why they loved me, but it can be nightmare what it is since that incident.
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