The truth about SUPPLEMENTS

[CriticalMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CriticalMass]

As for the Bcaa's , 1 egg before your work out will do the same and better job.
If you are doing a BB nutrition then you don t need the Bcaa's.
You are pissing them from your worked out unit

Without commenting on the bioavailability of BCAA's from food vs. supplements, I'd like to point out that it's a common misconception that amino acids are lost in the urine in physiologically normal individuals. The kidneys are remarkably efficient at retaining nutrients in the production of urine, and even if you're taking in protein far above your need, you won't see AA's in your urine.

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

even if that s the case... then we will have suppressed kidneys and we don t like that.

[CriticalMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CriticalMass]

even if that s the case... then we will have suppressed kidneys and we don t like that.

What do you mean "suppressed kidneys?"

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

Tired...burned out.
Read medical articles about it.

[CriticalMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CriticalMass]

Tired...burned out.
Read medical articles about it.

I'm a medical student, my understanding of renal pathophysiology is adequate. I'm unaware of any association between modest protein or amino acid supplementation and either acute kidney injury or chronic kidney disease in individuals without existing kidney disease.

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

"""Kidney damage

Following a high-protein diet for an extended period can increase your risk of kidney damage. Eating too much protein can also affect people who already have kidney disease. This is because of the excess nitrogen found in the amino acids that make up proteins.
Your kidneys have to work harder to get rid of the extra nitrogen and waste products of protein metabolism.
The same 2002 study from above found that consuming high amounts of protein led to abnormal BUN (one measure of kidney function) and a more concentrated urine."""

Now you are aware.

[CriticalMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CriticalMass]

"""Kidney damage

Following a high-protein diet for an extended period can increase your risk of kidney damage. Eating too much protein can also affect people who already have kidney disease. This is because of the excess nitrogen found in the amino acids that make up proteins.
Your kidneys have to work harder to get rid of the extra nitrogen and waste products of protein metabolism.
The same 2002 study from above found that consuming high amounts of protein led to abnormal BUN (one measure of kidney function) and a more concentrated urine."""

Now you are aware.

I'm afraid your confidence is unwarranted, especially as you have provided no citation and no details for a single vague claim. See Table 2 of this recent review (Ko et al. 2017) showing great variability in both presence and direction (!) of relationship between total protein intake and development of chronic kidney disease (i.e. decline in kidney function as measured by eGFR) among long-term epidemiological studies. Furthermore, it is not established in current medical practice that high-protein diets are a risk factor for development of CKD, as reflected in additional recent reviews on the subject:

However, although it is well accepted that a high-protein diet may be detrimental to individuals with existing kidney dysfunction, there is little evidence that high protein intake is dangerous for healthy individuals.

- Cuenca-Sánchez et al. 2015

It is also notable that commentaries which express caution about the potential for high-protein diets to increase the risk of developing CKD (e.g. Marckmann et al. 2015) selectively examine specific epidemiological studies, rather than reviewing the totality of the literature.

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

ANYTHING being used in excess is harmful.
Now it s your kidneys... so you can treat them any way you choose.