saiyan22's opinion on the science of PE base on my studies and experiance

[Captain Planet Member Find all posts View Profile Close Captain Planet]

You do know creep is the last thing that happens before something actually breaks right? It looks a bit too much taken out of a book about material science, but don't forget we're talking about living tissue, and not steel or polymers.

I don't mean to say you're wrong, because you've got a science degree and I saw a science fair ribbon once, but can't living tissue still break? I know living tissue is a little more flexible than nonliving stuff, and I'm sure it plays by some slightly different rules; I just have a little trouble grasping why a different breaking point would affect something so much as to render it even half useless. I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for a few other guys here too. If we all just need to read an anatomy book just tell us and we'll stop being clods.


I agree with Saiyan's theory, and have for a long time, but if a new exercise works only because it's more efficient at creating a stretch, shouldn't there be a clear progression of exercises? I know hanging makes a better stretch than manually stretching and that clamping is more intense than jelqing, but what about everything in-between? Shouldn't we be able to rate every stretch from least effective to most effective? I feel most of us know bits and pieces about this progression, but I think it would be helpful to organize them all on a list, separated into girth and length techniques. Maybe not. Maybe it would just be helpful to the new guys; I know I would have killed for a list like that when I first found out about it.

[fetishkid Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fetishkid]

Agree with what you have said but want to add some of mine scientific aproach which is very deeper.

I wanted to write a whole book of what I have understund for my penis via PE which I think is very true If someone has reached an upper level.First section I would like to talk about is flausid penis state.Years ago my flausid was about 1" something like micropenis...this caused me anxiety not enough self confidence and many other symptoms etc..What I knew then was that my mind was very powerfull and I used to constatly think about diferent things all time was very social have many complex syndroms and many more..So then I understand that either my small flausid penis caused all that OR all that caused my small flausid penis.Years later I understood that it was the second.All that caused my small flausid penis.Now my flausid stands between 6" and 6.5" and when doing pee streches goes above 8".So lets go to my explanation...
After many search I found out that in the brain there are 2 main areas...The logic area..and the not conscious area.Some more findings is that in a new research scientists believe that when a baby boy is born it is decided if it will take a powerfull mind or a big toy.This is very close to what I believe about brain.I think that all healthy people have the same mind and same functions.What diferences is what part of mind each people use most.So when we say that someone has a powerfull mind that means that he uses very very much the logic area.Again I have to remember you that the more some one uses logic the less he uses non conscious functions in some other area.Something more is that logic area is very very close to sociality area which make us attractive as friends and help us make friends.Years ago with the small flausid state I used to be extreme logicaly...think all things with logic and no emotion at all.From all my logic I used to have very complexes.So when I went to pee and strech my penis it could go on maximum at 3" or 4" because when I strech I used to think all my complexes and all problems I had.Now I can strech and not go above 6" if I do the same thinking when pulling.What I have managed doing to reach 8" in each pee pull is to free my mind and stop my logic area.When not thinking anything you can make complex disapear.Your brain then need less blood to function and the other blood come down to penis.Scientific now Sex is a desire and a need caused by the brain.The human brain consists of two main brains.The prohistoric brain which is in a lower level and has all functions as eating voiding peeing and sexing.This is only what most animals have and the prohistoric people had.In the thousands of years of development a new brain has developed above the old brain.It is called mamal brain and functions mainly for sociality.All mamals grow their childs up and most of them come on teams in the nature.Otherwise reptiles have only the lower brain and not mammal brain.So this is the reason that they born a new reptile and not care about it.Some of them even eat their child.Mammal brain in the human developed a third state which is logic that only people have in excess.So logic is anatomic the upper level inside the brain.under that is mammal brain and under that is prohistoric brain.Remember sex is only activated by prohistoric brain which is very deep inside.But different levels of brain cant work simultaneously at a good level because most blood goes only in one area and there is very much distance between the prohistoric brain and the logic brain.The prohistoric brain function is what I named above as not conscious area.You can guess why.Because when it functions in a good level the logic brain shuts down causing not consciousness.This is what eliminates all of my thoughts and complexes now.This again takes you away from sociality and make you focus on one woman only and only as a female for sex.This makes your brain produce more dopamine and serotine which give you power to feel good and is what make you boost your self confience in order to win this woman.This again makes you produce more testosterone because of the good feeling and make you ready for sex.Something more is that non conscious area is what controls all chemical produces as dopamine and seretonine.All that make the brain think only for sex and let all blood come down to the penis.All that again make you feel calm not anxious about anything and make the pc muscle strech between its limits which let me with a simple pull to reach 8" plus.But for 8" you cant strech only the skin but the penis which want many many blood to go there.So when I think and have anxiety about something blood is not enough for this.Again when I spent very much time with friends and talk very much dont know why but again when I do a pull I have the same blood decreased flow.I need many time to make all thoughts go away and release my blood to the penis.The true is now days I have less friends less cares and less worries but what I have come up with is that makes me hang lower and make me use my not conscious area better.Every one here want to think of some people that they know that hang low.How do they react in their life.Are they logical people with complexe syndroms very calm and use their logic to explain everything and think everything twice before they talk OR they are very energetic say everything even if they dont think about what they said speak loud dont have worries and have very diferent reactions etc...You can guess now that they use the non conscious brain more than logic and this make all that reactions and probably a low hang..

something DAVID ICKE would post....... verry true and verry accurate bringing PE to a higher level then just TECHNICAL improvement of the penis nice post

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for Johnny Butt, If you use a scientific approach based on creep happening before something breaks, meaning that would occur after something has been forced past its normal elasticity or elastic limit that could make sense but a penis grows new cells and over times addapts. This theory of happening before it breaks then would only apply to things that can not naturally repair themselves, not human tissues or ligaments(unless overdone). In metal something can be stressed passed its elastic limits and then break due to fatigue but if trained and stressed properly the penis should and will repair and become larger.So basically if your dick was made of an aluminum alloy you would definately screw it up. I have to agree with what saiyan is saying.

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Also wanted to thankyou Saiyan22 for an amazing post that in my opinion breaks down and simplifys one of the main principals of PE. After all we are trying to create plastic deformation, plain and simple. If you are practicing penis enlargement you are simply practicing the art of plastic deformation if you are doing it to get a bigger meat stick. Awsome read,

[jalambo Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jalambo]

thanks for the essay Saiyan and can u post ur exercise List?
which exercises bring u 1.7 " ??

[Don Quixote Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Don Quixote]

It stops growing around 21-23 years of age? im not even 21 yet, is PE right for me? Im fine with my size but i love improving my self in every way and PE is fun.

[oddball Member Find all posts View Profile Close oddball]

pe zen

r u saying that we only need to do one 20 second stretch very slowly for every 4 hours and thats it?

no need to do anymore than the single one stretch very slowly for 20 seconds and than do just one set again every 4 hours ?

[VIPER Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VIPER]

pe zen

r u saying that we only need to do one 20 second stretch very slowly for every 4 hours and thats it?

no need to do anymore than the single one stretch very slowly for 20 seconds and than do just one set again every 4 hours ?

Oddball ...it has been over 2 years since pe_ZEN was an active member here, i wouldn't be expecting a response from him any time soon. This is quite an old thread!

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Also wanted to thankyou Saiyan22 for an amazing post that in my opinion breaks down and simplifys one of the main principals of PE. After all we are trying to create plastic deformation, plain and simple. If you are practicing penis enlargement you are simply practicing the art of plastic deformation if you are doing it to get a bigger meat stick. Awsome read,

That's a good way to put it man. It's quite a simple concept actually.

[eworthi Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close eworthi]

It's an older post, so I don't expect the original authors to respond but the original post by Saiyan22 and the response quoted below got me thinking. Because every cell in the penis is constantly being replaced with new cells, as is the case with the rest of the body, and because the new cells follow the blue print laid out in our DNA then the new cell growth will result in our pre PE penis, right? So to truly keep the gains we've made we must never stop PE. This is somewhat like body building in that one must continue exercising just to maintain. Plastic deformation does not rewrite genetic code it just does microscopic damage which will heal unless we keep damaging ourselves. Now one exception I can see is that certain damages do not dissapear as they heal, like scar tissue, so if the deformations are like that then perhaps they will remain?

Saiyan22, thank you very much for taking the time to share your thoughts with us. Your essay reminded me of a discussion I was having with my colleagues a couple of days ago and I'd like to make a comment if I may. I'm sure you know the cells in our bodies are constantly being renewed and replaced. What that means is that in spite of practicing PE, we're all going to have a completely new penis (comprised of entirely new cells) in a few years time. I'm not going to speculate exactly how long it would take because it depends on a myriad of factors but suffice to say it never ceases to happen.

Therefore, microscopically-speaking, our penises or for that matter any other part of our bodies is always changing in size and structure, adjusting to old cells being destroyed and the creation of new ones. So without going into excruciating detail, it is my medical opinion that the plastic/elastic deformation as you put it works hand in hand with our bodies' natural maintenance mechanisms, and over time, through renewal, remodel and restructure, penis enlargement becomes a very tangible reality.


Cheers,
AF

[MrPriapus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrPriapus]

It's an older post, so I don't expect the original authors to respond but the original post by Saiyan22 and the response quoted below got me thinking. Because every cell in the penis is constantly being replaced with new cells, as is the case with the rest of the body, and because the new cells follow the blue print laid out in our DNA then the new cell growth will result in our pre PE penis, right? So to truly keep the gains we've made we must never stop PE. This is somewhat like body building in that one must continue exercising just to maintain. Plastic deformation does not rewrite genetic code it just does microscopic damage which will heal unless we keep damaging ourselves. Now one exception I can see is that certain damages do not dissapear as they heal, like scar tissue, so if the deformations are like that then perhaps they will remain?

Nah bro, that logic makes no sense.

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Great to read makes me understand things much better.