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  • #31
    I'm also a sophomore, studying molecular biology but I definitely don't have the same level of anatomical knowledge as you have. Thought I would pop over to congratulate you on a detailed and thoroughly convincing post.

    I do however have issues with the anti-masturbation crusade. Whilst I can buy that a rise of prolactin could have a very short term detrimental effect to growth factor presence at the site of growth, it surely could not provide such an effect as to genuinely slow growth, as prolactin is degraded relatively quickly and normal blood flow restored within 15 minutes in most... Keep in mind also, that by suggesting to completely swear off masturbation on this basis, you also have to suggest swearing off sex as the biological effects of both are analogous to each other.

    I certainly do not buy into your assertions that masturbation, a motion that by its very nature acts to move the foreskin in directions that they are designed (I know that 'designed' is an annoying term) to move, is too 'harsh'...

    Also keep in mind the numerous well known benefits of regular ejaculation, shown to maintain semen 'health' and reduce carcinogen levels; reducing risks of prostate cancer. O
    n balance, to me, the benefits of ejaculating regularly (and I really won't have you saying that its ok to have sex regularly and not to masturbate regularly) outweigh the rather tenuous link between abstaining from masturbation and increased growth.

    Regards, and again, great article

    Don
    Starting Stats: 10/05/2012
    BPEL - 7.25 inches
    NBEL - 6.9 inches
    EG - 5.0 inches

    07/01/13
    BPEL - 7.6 inches
    NBEL - 7.25 inches
    EG - 5.3 inches

    'inspiring quote' - Don, 26/06/12

    :)

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    • #32
      Recently started Hatha yoga as well, amazing and intense. It goes well with my holistic approach to gym workout, p.e workout . I hope to reap the benefits to my overall being
      stealth114
      Junior Member
      Last edited by stealth114; 02-16-2013, 07:45 PM.

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      • #33
        Interesting, maybe going too hard and over compulsive masturbation besides PR made my gland soft...
        "Girth over length :D "

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        • #34
          I have amazing news for all who have questions!! i have gotten SOOO many personal messages and the threads i have posted on different websites have had so many views and comments that i have decided to start my own website and go into depth about all of the research penis yoga it will be a free information hub in which i shall detail everything and also have links on the site which will direct people back to here and a few other places in order to easily obtain more information and be able to buy the things i will recommend for pennies on the dime. ive already introduced a few people on my campus to the penis yoga idea and they have taken to it wonderfully. It should all be up and running in 2 months!! i shall of course invite any and all members

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          • #35
            Hello my fellow men! i have studied a bit more and have come to an accurate conclusion for everyone. members have expressed concerns about my dislike of jelqing and also masturbation. Here is why, and how i am actually for them, but in a much more efficient manner . Masturbation and jelqing truly serve the same purpose. In masturbation an erection is obtained and maintained for an extended period of time. Jelqing does the same thing. Here is what they are both doing--and why some experience gains with them--SATURATION! You see when jelqing some do it softly and some hard resulting in tissue swelling(edema) and possibly more erections in response . in masturbation there is stimulation in varying degrees depending on techniques used. what happens in both however is that the unit becomes very engorged and hard! What does this do? In both cases it causes and extended exposure to growth factors in the blood . This is why some have said that those who masturbated the most came into adulthood with bigger units. It makes perfect sense and follows what i have said. the penis has had more exposure to growth factor and has had stimuli placed on it that allowed growth factors to well--cause growth! The technique that i fully support is Ballooning! Here is why: in ballooning the penis is exposed to growth factors for an extended period of time and also causes tissue stretching to a certain extend. It however is not effective by itself. the tissue saturation must serve a purpose. by applying penis yoga and ballooning together it encourages penis growth. As an avid bodybuilder and competitive male i have done extensive research into male hormones and have found something rather shocking. They say that testosterone and growth hormone levels plummet significantly after puberty. I have found out from research and first hand interviews with doctors, that the levels truly don't. in fact when a man reaches 70 years old he still has the about 70-85% of his testosterone levels he had at 18-20 years old. he also has about anywhere from 50-75% his growth hormone levels of that age! that level total depends highly upon an effort of life long fitness or for instance in the case of going411by7's case--a lifestyle change . this is why older men can still experience gains--they just take longer. The actual story as to why the penis stops growing at puberty is not hormonal--its personal. we get out of high school around when puberty ends. for some this means that they don't workout as much or at all or maybe they start eating terribly or their healthy habits fall to shit. I strongly believe it is not a set age when the body suddenly decides the penis is big enough! i believe it is instead determined by our health and correctly applied efforts. i don't know about you but ive seen men in their 50's healthier than the average teenager today. the declining health also explains why some boys do not experience much-if any penis growth even at the highest points of puberty.

            SO--follow the penis yoga routine and incorporate ballooning to saturate the tissues and grow faster and BIGGER! Peace out gents.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Kidd View Post
              The actual story as to why the penis stops growing at puberty is not hormonal--its personal. we get out of high school around when puberty ends. for some this means that they don't workout as much or at all or maybe they start eating terribly or their healthy habits fall to shit. I strongly believe it is not a set age when the body suddenly decides the penis is big enough! i believe it is instead determined by our health and correctly applied efforts. .
              No, sorry you are completely wrong. My penis stopped growing when I was 16. I became alot MORE active at 16, and have gotten progressively more active until now, where I am 20. I didn't grow a cm bigger in that time. Penis size is determined by nutrition, and genetics. Thats it.
              I have no problem being with just one woman, but I can't not eat all the donuts.

              Current: 7.2" x 5.25"
              Next stop: 7.5" x 5.4"

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              • #37
                Originally posted by faithandhope View Post
                No, sorry you are completely wrong. My penis stopped growing when I was 16. I became alot MORE active at 16, and have gotten progressively more active until now, where I am 20. I didn't grow a cm bigger in that time. Penis size is determined by nutrition, and genetics. Thats it.
                you and i are saying the same thing what you have expressed i implied with health. i apologize for not fleshing that out. and you are correct genetics does have a certain say in things, but its also important to remember that DNA is really nothing special. everybody basically has the same thing. its just that our parents pass down a preference of OFF/ON signals to us in our DNA configuration. It is however because of how DNA works that we can change which switches turn on or off based on stimuli and nutrition. thank you for bringing that up

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                • #38
                  Can you post or send me the link supporting this.
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                  have found out from research and first hand interviews with doctors, that the levels truly don't. in fact when a man reaches 70 years old he still has the about 70-85% of his testosterone levels he had at 18-20 years old. he also has about anywhere from 50-75% his growth hormone levels of that age!
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                  You do not explain your dislike of masturbation or jelq in post 35.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                    Can you post or send me the link supporting this.
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                    have found out from research and first hand interviews with doctors, that the levels truly don't. in fact when a man reaches 70 years old he still has the about 70-85% of his testosterone levels he had at 18-20 years old. he also has about anywhere from 50-75% his growth hormone levels of that age!
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                    You do not explain your dislike of masturbation or jelq in post 35.
                    my explanation is in my post. i don't hold to masturbation of jelqing because it either is easy to over do with jelqing or hormonally unbalancing with masturbation which often results in ejaculation. i dislike them because both are crude forms of ballooning, which does exactly what we want

                    As for a link no i really can't . its not merely one or two links or any of the links. its the conclusion drawn from the evidence given in dozens of links. the more and more i have dug into the data the less and less substance i find. what i have spoken to you thus far is light years ahead of the curve. i have concluded such numbers by studying martial artists who have devoted a lifetime to their arts and the honing of skills. i have also studied life long athletes such as frank zane, carl lewis, ben johnson, lance armstrong, micheal jordan, wing chun masters, as well as masters from Kali, jujitsu, tei qaun do, karate, samurais, an several other notable martial arts/kung fuu's. Health in later years is vastly determined not by some mysterious force but a result of discipline. By either establishing a lifestyle change(a dramatic one) a bit of change can be had and progress made, but far far more is accomplished through when it is lifelong. I have scoured text books and research articles, but all of the people they studied were either in ridiculously poor health, under fed, average joe old folks, or people keyed up on some type of drug. SOO--i had to look for the signs and look at pictures of those people taken throughout some of their lives. i also had to determine rate of performance decrease. it was a very long and ardous process. its mainly why im starting my own website. its merely because the body of knowledge im going to bring to bear is ENORMOUS. its literally knowledge accumulated over my entire early adulthood and teenage years. ive seen libraries smaller than the amount of books ive read :/.

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                    • #40
                      Read your PM, so that's why I decided to check this out.

                      The testosterone part is still uncertain. There was some recent research showing that age-related dropping of testosterone might be largely environmental, but it certainly wasn't proof. Just a hint that it might not be what is currently thought to be and that more research is needed to find out the truth.

                      Penis size is PURE genetics. Your size might be affected by PE during puberty, but any decent mix of hormones or PE is going to get your penis up to genetic limit really fast. It's hardcoded. If it wasn't you could grow the penis very easily by raising testosterone and growth hormone. It doesn't work that way, even by injecting them. SOME bodybuilder or athlete during the "Golden Age" of steroids would have figured out and it would be common knowledge now. Your genes are a blue print to the size of the tunica, CCs, everything.

                      The only thing that works is physical deformation through PE. Masturbation has only positive effects for length, if any, I have found. Masturbation also raises my testosterone. Scientifically the best "masturbation/sex schedule" would be once a week, at a set time/day. Anticipation of sex/ejaculation also raises testosterone and once a week testosterone peaks and then drops back down, so never masturbation has no effect on long term testosterone.

                      From my personal experience, jerking off 5 times per week makes your testosterone rise more then only doing so once a week. It might be due to diet/exercise (easily the biggest factor) but I'm not seeing any harmful side-effects from ejaculating 5 times a week apart from no girth gains (I'm trying to cut back so I can see the effect of this) and a bit of overtraining I had going on (could be diet related/stress/mental/volume, impossible to pinpoint it on masturbation for sure since it went perfectly for 6+ months with no issue until like a week ago (going better now, and I only took like a 4 day break so it could've been diet related and that I needed a few more days of high kcals to fix it).
                      Start: 6.5" BPEL/4.8" MSEG
                      30 Aug 2012: 6.7" BPEL/4.9" MSEG
                      20 Nov 2012: 7.0" BPEL/4.84" MSEG
                      30 Jan 2013: 7.3" BPEL/4.84" MSEG

                      09 Nov 2014: 7.1" BPEL/4.9" MSEG (1.5 years+ no PE, girth from recent pumping)

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                      • #41
                        Firstly I have to say I regard ballooning as a crude form of edging. Easy to overdo?? Well you do have to condition yourself I suppose but I would have to say overall edging is one of the best tolerated pe methods ,depending on which form you use of course.

                        You seem to regard ejaculation as evil or something ,as stated previous this appears to be a head issue.

                        Vague assertions of vast knowledge are unconvincing.

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                        • #42
                          I recently started massaging most nights to try and break down the collagen scarring from a mild case of peyronie's, I had noticed that almost immediately it hung a little lower and fuller all day every day, I had 2 days off and it seemed to reduce back to the old size ... this post really does seem logical and definitely something that seems backed up from my brief experiences. I like understanding some of the science theories behind this and will continue on with it. Nice work kidd
                          start 31-3-2011
                          bpel 13 cm ( 5.11 inch )
                          bpfsl 14 cm
                          Girth 13 cm ( 5.11 )
                          flacid 7.5 cm

                          31-07-2011
                          bpel 15 cm ( 5.9 inch )
                          bpfsl 15 cm
                          girth 13.5 ( 5.31 inch )
                          flacid 9.5 cm

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                          • #43
                            I'll give SIX reasons as to why I think your method, penis yoga, is totally bogus.

                            1. No gains.
                            You have no proof that your method even works, and a better hanging flaccid doesn't count when you're proposing a method of TRUE penis enlargement. Granted, this might change in the future, but after claiming to have spent 5+ years researching this, I'm shocked that you have NEVER used the information to try and make any gains, if such gains can even be made.

                            2. Your egotistical statement:
                            I am a sophomore in college, but have a graduates to masters level understanding of the body.
                            Who are you to claim that and why do you feel that way? Did you take some kind of test which compared your knowledge with the knowledge of graduates (including your teachers)? I obviously have no clue how much experience you truly have, but it seems a bit arrogant to claim to have master's level understanding as a sophomore. FYI I am a college senior graduating this semester, and it would be ridiculous for me to claim to have an equal/greater understanding of my field than my professors (the competent ones).

                            3. Obsession with testosterone levels. There is no correlation between increasing testosterone and penis growth. Testosterone has nothing to do with collagen and elasticity. Disregarding erectile dysfunction, it won't affect gains. There have been multiple threads on multiple forums regarding this issue.

                            4. NO MASTURBATION. You do realize this also means NO SEX, right? This would be a great routine for monks, bishops, popes, etc (if it actually works).

                            5. Your paragraph concerning elastin makes absolutely no sense. Where are the sources which back up your claim of increasing elastin content. Specifically:
                            By applying yoga techniques to the penis it can cause the appropriate reactionary response. Increased flexibility-therefore-elasticity. When gently stretched, just as in yoga, the body begins to metabolize collagen and replace it with Elastin.
                            Is there a source for that information, or did you pull it out of thin air? I don't mean whether or not elastin increases in muscles when people get massages, I mean SPECIFICALLY in the penis.

                            6. Multiple links to products. Yeah....

                            You can't waltz in here claiming to have made a "discovery" and urging everyone to follow PENIS YOGA when the posts you make supporting it are so underwhelming. You don't even have any gains to prove it! I must reiterate that you claim to have been researching this for 5+ years yet NEVER, NOT ONCE attempted to use the knowledge to make gains.

                            Originally posted by The Kidd
                            what i have spoken to you thus far is light years ahead of the curve.

                            No, it's not, although I hope to be proven wrong. Maybe you truly have spent hard work thinking about this sort of stuff, but you have not presented any information in any way that seems legitimate. If you are truly a sophomore with MASTER'S level knowledge and understanding, you would know that it is important for one to be able to correctly write articles/papers in his or her field. This means correct punctuation, spelling, paragraph separation, and thoughts which are communicated clearly and contain substance.

                            The ONLY helpful information I saw is that you advocated gently massaging the tissues of your penis. This is something I've been doing for a long time, and I think it's definitely a good thing simply because it feels right, but this is by no means a discovery unless you can do REAL scientific research and produce an article that formally describes the process by which massaging the soft tissue of the PENIS increases elastin content.

                            I'm not convinced.


                            eow.
                            Member of the Month April 2013
                            Last edited by eow.; 03-05-2013, 01:13 AM.
                            Collection of scientific articles and books related to PE: pe_sources.zip

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                            • #44
                              I think there are some valid points. But as with everything, i take it with grain of salt. And i dont eat salt.

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                              • #45
                                Minus the massage, I'm just not sure how your routine differs in any way from what people already do.
                                Stretches (length work) and ULIs (girth work)
                                The only difference is you removed the warm up/down and replaced it with a light massage.
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