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  • #16
    Originally posted by corageon View Post
    Good Point.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Big Al View Post
      Original post: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...tml#post162184

      Please note that all of this testicle stretching may come back on you guys. As you get older your scrotum is going to start to stretch. Consider where you want your nuts to be hanging 20 years from now. Also, stretching the scrotum will do nothing for actual testicular size increases.

      As for growth, some men have claimed that light but regular testicular massage has cause some growth. This may be due to a slight loosening of the testicular fascia, better blood flow, or just an increase in testicular health/hormone optimization due to the massage.
      As a point of reference here, I'm not advocating guys stretch their balls or scrotum to an unreasonable extreme, although there's an online community of guys doing that! I think there's several factors that play a part in testicular size and hang. Certainly, genetics plays a significant role; diet (IMO), especially in childhood and adolescence; plus (in my case) I began testicular massage & exercises, & wearing a leather cuff because of my torsion injury when I was 16.

      I think ALL of those played a part in my testicle development. Here's my theory as to why:

      1) I grew up living in coastal areas, so my diet was heavy in seafood all my younger developmental years. Some scientific evidence exists that a diet rich in zinc results in larger testicle development in males. I LOVED seafood, even as a kid, and it's still my favorite today, so I think that has played a part for me, eating a diet rich in zinc.

      2) I think my balls were at least somewhat larger than the average male's to begin with; that was partially due to genetics (maybe), diet (as stated above), and because my urologist even stated I had larger than average testicles as a boy, so that played a role in why I suffered my injury. I took him at his word, but as I matured, GF's over the years have commented on my balls being larger than their previous partner's, so I think there's some validity to that. I started early with testicle massage/stretches & wearing a cuff due to the sports related torsion injury when I was 16, and that made them larger, too (IMO).

      3) Lastly, I believe manual testicle stretches, massage & wearing a cuff will enhance a guy's hang by relaxing the muscles surrounding the testicles to desensitize them somewhat to extremes such as temperature, exercise / physical exertion, and sex. , Along with diet, over a prolonged period, it will not only make your testicles larger, but healthier, too (IMO). All these elements played a role to some degree for me (I believe). You can draw your own conclusions. I'm just offering info for members to digest. There are guys who have painful turteling of their testicles during sex, exercise and cold temperatures. I know, because I've read about them online AND I had experience with my right testicle "drawing" and twisting as a result of my sports injury years ago. The exercises became a regular part of my day during my recovery as a boy. So I still perform my stretches, massage & wear my cuff 3-4 days a week even now, because I believe it keeps my balls healthier, increases my libido, and quite honestly, feels GREAT having them swing between my legs all day and slap my GF during sex! I'm just doing a "maintenance" routine now, to keep mine healthy & "fit", & I think it is working. That's reason enough for me to continue!

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      • #18
        Light testicular massage can be invigorating and may even optimize the size and function of the testes. Great care should be taken with any activities where the testes are pulled or bound in any way.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Big Al View Post
          Light testicular massage can be invigorating and may even optimize the size and function of the testes. Great care should be taken with any activities where the testes are pulled or bound in any way.
          I agree, AL! Testicular massage DOES FEEL GREAT, and I was lucky my urologist when I was 16, understood and shared with me the importance of daily exercise and massage to increase blood flow, help heal my testicle swelling, and guard against atrophy from my injury. The leather cuff held them both firmly in place at the bottom of my scrotum and also provided some added support while extending my spermatic cords and guarding against the "drawing" and twisting that might have resulted in testicular death or atrophy. My right (injured) testicle was always (and still is) substantially larger than my left, but it's grown much larger than when I was 16, of course, as has my left one. My balls are healthy, hang nicely in proportion to my penis and feel great!

          I owe it all to a knowledgeable and helpful Urologist who made an effort to avoid cutting on a 16 yo boy's balls; his being frank and open with information paid MAJOR dividends to me both then & for the rest of my life!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jockinthebox View Post
            I owe it all to a knowledgeable and helpful Urologist who made an effort to avoid cutting on a 16 yo boy's balls; his being frank and open with information paid MAJOR dividends to me both then & for the rest of my life!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by jockinthebox View Post
              Here's a site I found online that has quality leather cuffs & stretchers reasonably priced, IMO:

              www.bluecollarfetishwear.com/leather-
              ball-stretcher-with-a-nut-divider.html

              Just be sure to measure your scrotum "hang" before ordering & inquire about the length of the balls divider strap to make sure it's long enough to not crush your balls; ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TESTICLES THAT ARE ALREADY "LARGER" THAN AVERAGE.

              As a point of reference, mine are different sizes (as are most guys), and my left one is approximately the size of a medium / large egg, while my right is an extra-large egg size...both "ORGANIC GRADE "A", of COURSE!
              So I ordered from that site and it just came today. I didn't get the one with the divider; one day when I have a lower hang, maybe.

              I ordered the "starter kit" which has a 1" cuff, a 1.5" cuff, and a 2" cuff.

              To give you an idea of how tight my balls are, I had a hell of a time getting just the 1" cuff on lol. Granted, my balls weren't particularly loose, but still. FYI for anybody else looking to order, the 1" cuff does not have adjustable snaps, but the 1.5" and 2" cuffs do. Probably part of the reason it was hard getting it on, but then again if the circumference was much bigger it would be easy for a ball to slip up through it. I was expecting the leather to be softer, but I'm sure it will soften up over time as I use it. As of now it's a bit stiff. You said it's OK to put lotion on the leather? Or will that cause it to break down?

              I'm planning on wearing it pretty much 24 hours other than showering, or if it's causing discomfort. Gonna test it out today and make sure it doesn't restrict any blood flow before I gamble sleeping with it, but if everything seems OK over the rest of the day, no pain, no blood flow problems, I'll just leave it on all night tonight.

              I hope I'll be able to get away with wearing both this and the Phallosan at the same time. With the Phallosan creating a weird bulge by my hip, and the ball cuffs basically pushing my testicles outward, I'm gonna look pretty ridiculous lol.



              EDIT: Just put the Phallosan on... this might be an issue.

              So my speculation as to why I have such scrotal tightness is because I think I was circumcised too tight as a baby, and my scrotal skin has slowly creeped up to cover the underside of my shaft.

              When I put the PF on just now while wearing the leather cuff, my penis is not stretching to anywhere near the length it does normally. It's limited by the skin on the underside that is being pulled downwards by the cuff. So the only thing being stretched by the PF right now (IMO) is the skin. Looks like I'm not gonna be able to wear these together At least not until the cuff stretches my scrotum down far enough that it doesn't limit the PF.
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              Last edited by DaddyL0ngstroke; 12-10-2015, 03:35 PM.

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              • #22
                Guys, is there any chance of blood circulation being cut off if there is NO discoloration or pain?

                I've got this cuff on... everything looks fine. It's kinda tight but it's not that bad. When I first put it on my balls felt super vulnerable and any light brushing against them felt slightly painful, because they are kinda smashed together and pulled pretty tight so you'd think sensitivity would naturally be higher.

                Now, it's been on for about an hour, and everything still looks fine. My balls are a little cold, but the color is normal, there's no pain at all other than a skin pinch, but the weird thing is that the sensitivity I had before is gone. In fact, it's weirding me out a little, I actually have been giving my balls a few squeezes/flicks trying to make sure my sensation is still normal down there, but I can't feel any pain or discomfort even when squeezing.

                I really don't wanna take this thing off if there's nothing wrong, it was such a bitch to get on. But I don't wanna kill a testicle. I've always heard that discoloration and pain are the main signs of circulation being cut off. I have neither of those.


                EDIT: Nevermind, as soon as I posted this I thought "just do the smart thing, dumbass" and I took it off. My scrotum looked deformed from the lines where the leather was cutting into it, and I got some very dull testicle aches, probably residual pain from those squeezes/flicks. The skin of the scrotum where it was stretching and where the leather was contacting the skin was very painful for a few minutes but mostly back to normal.

                I'm confused... it was obviously making my testicles slightly numb, but tissue death begins to occur after like 20 minutes and is accompanied by discoloration (purple/black) and pain. I had it on for over an hour and I had neither other than the skin pinch pain. I didn't lose feeling in the scrotum skin, just the testicles themselves.

                Not really sure where to go from here.
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                Last edited by DaddyL0ngstroke; 12-10-2015, 05:23 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DaddyL0ngstroke View Post
                  So I ordered from that site and it just came today. I didn't get the one with the divider; one day when I have a lower hang, maybe.

                  I ordered the "starter kit" which has a 1" cuff, a 1.5" cuff, and a 2" cuff.

                  To give you an idea of how tight my balls are, I had a hell of a time getting just the 1" cuff on lol. Granted, my balls weren't particularly loose, but still. FYI for anybody else looking to order, the 1" cuff does not have adjustable snaps, but the 1.5" and 2" cuffs do. Probably part of the reason it was hard getting it on, but then again if the circumference was much bigger it would be easy for a ball to slip up through it. I was expecting the leather to be softer, but I'm sure it will soften up over time as I use it. As of now it's a bit stiff. You said it's OK to put lotion on the leather? Or will that cause it to break down?

                  I'm planning on wearing it pretty much 24 hours other than showering, or if it's causing discomfort. Gonna test it out today and make sure it doesn't restrict any blood flow before I gamble sleeping with it, but if everything seems OK over the rest of the day, no pain, no blood flow problems, I'll just leave it on all night tonight.

                  I hope I'll be able to get away with wearing both this and the Phallosan at the same time. With the Phallosan creating a weird bulge by my hip, and the ball cuffs basically pushing my testicles outward, I'm gonna look pretty ridiculous lol.



                  EDIT: Just put the Phallosan on... this might be an issue.

                  So my speculation as to why I have such scrotal tightness is because I think I was circumcised too tight as a baby, and my scrotal skin has slowly creeped up to cover the underside of my shaft.

                  When I put the PF on just now while wearing the leather cuff, my penis is not stretching to anywhere near the length it does normally. It's limited by the skin on the underside that is being pulled downwards by the cuff. So the only thing being stretched by the PF right now (IMO) is the skin. Looks like I'm not gonna be able to wear these together At least not until the cuff stretches my scrotum down far enough that it doesn't limit the PF.
                  I use cocoa butter on the leather to soften it up. Also, it keeps your scrotum skin moisturized, is non-greasy, and quickly absorbed. Once you become accustomed to wearing the cuff, your balls will relax more making it easier to put on. Just wear it a few hours at first and build your time up slowly.

                  I've worn mine along with the PF with no issues. Once your balls hang better, this should resolve itself.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DaddyL0ngstroke View Post
                    Guys, is there any chance of blood circulation being cut off if there is NO discoloration or pain?

                    I've got this cuff on... everything looks fine. It's kinda tight but it's not that bad. When I first put it on my balls felt super vulnerable and any light brushing against them felt slightly painful, because they are kinda smashed together and pulled pretty tight so you'd think sensitivity would naturally be higher.

                    Now, it's been on for about an hour, and everything still looks fine. My balls are a little cold, but the color is normal, there's no pain at all other than a skin pinch, but the weird thing is that the sensitivity I had before is gone. In fact, it's weirding me out a little, I actually have been giving my balls a few squeezes/flicks trying to make sure my sensation is still normal down there, but I can't feel any pain or discomfort even when squeezing.

                    I really don't wanna take this thing off if there's nothing wrong, it was such a bitch to get on. But I don't wanna kill a testicle. I've always heard that discoloration and pain are the main signs of circulation being cut off. I have neither of those.


                    EDIT: Nevermind, as soon as I posted this I thought "just do the smart thing, dumbass" and I took it off. My scrotum looked deformed from the lines where the leather was cutting into it, and I got some very dull testicle aches, probably residual pain from those squeezes/flicks. The skin of the scrotum where it was stretching and where the leather was contacting the skin was very painful for a few minutes but mostly back to normal.

                    I'm confused... it was obviously making my testicles slightly numb, but tissue death begins to occur after like 20 minutes and is accompanied by discoloration (purple/black) and pain. I had it on for over an hour and I had neither other than the skin pinch pain. I didn't lose feeling in the scrotum skin, just the testicles themselves.

                    Not really sure where to go from here.
                    Just begin slowly. Let your balls relax before putting on the cuff. There should be no pain nor discoloration in the scrotum or testicles. I always purchased cuffs with adjustable snaps to accommodate my scrotum size. It should feel tight, but not be painful, except for the occasional skin pinch, which is easily remedied by adjusting the cuff. Cocoa butter applied to the balls and/or cuff makes twisting and adjusting the cuff easier.

                    The desensitizing is part of wearing a cuff. It will retrain the cremaster muscles surrounding the testicles. That's the involuntary muscles that cause your balls to turtle. By desensitizing those muscles, your balls will hang lower. If you also do some stretches and massage to stretch your scrotum (as necessary), your balls will naturally hang more relaxed in the bottom of your sac all day after wearing a cuff for several months.

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                    • #25
                      Thought I'd bump this tread and provide an update. I have continued to wear my leather balls stretcher regularly; putting it on after my 11.25 hour (overnight sleeping for 8 hours of that) Phallosan Forte. After I shower, I put on my horseshoe cock ring along with my 2" leather balls-stretcher (with a balls divider strap) and wear that the balance of the day, until I put the PF back on late evening / overnight. This routine works perfectly for me, since I dropped manual PE mid-summer last year and started wearing my PF. My balls are now significantly larger (which my GF & I BOTH LOVE), and I maintain a really nice proportional hang ALL DAY! When I remove my stretcher & cock ring, I do my testicle massage (URO stretches) to relax my scrotum skin and maintain my testicle health. My flaccid penis hangs naturally at 6.25+" (about 1.75" below the bottom of my scrotum) normally, and the GF has noticed a positive difference in how relaxed my balls are! (She enjoys just playing with my balls while relaxing & watching TV before bed). It's become an almost nightly routine in fact! (LOL) I've found my balls stay relaxed more than ever all day, even during sex or cardio exercise at the gym or running. I couldn't be happier.

                      I'm continuing to just maintain here now. This is a slow process, but has proven to work well for me. By sharing this info, I'm hopeful some of you guys suffering with really tight balls can benefit from my experience, exercises & routine. Nothing feels better than a healthy set of balls along with a healthier penis from PE hanging relaxed, all day, between your legs!

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                      • #26
                        Jock, would you mind elaborating more on the mechanical ways to increase testicle size/health? I'm not exactly following how you did it. I get how you use devices, but not how you stimulated your testicles with your hands. Is it just rubbing? Or is there some secret method that I'm not yet aware of?

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                        • #27
                          https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-...rkey-neck.html

                          Read my post #5 in the above^^^ thread for detailed instructions on performing my URO stretch & selecting a cuff or balls stretcher that's right for you.

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                          • #28
                            UPDATE: Just wanted to pass along some info for any guys wanting to try or needing a new leather balls stretcher or cuff. I've been needing a new one, since mine's gotten older, the leather is cracking and the balls divider strap is too tight, as my balls continue to grow in size. I contacted the guy at www.bluecollarfetishwear.com
                            to inquire about the lengths of the balls divider straps on his stretchers he sells (very reasonably priced). His name is Wayne Lawrence and he's one terrifically accommodating guy! He will custom make leather balls stretchers to fit your hang at no extra charge! I ordered 2 new ones today from him, custom made for me, paying only $17.98 for both, with FREE SHIPPING! Better pricing than even ebay and a custom fit at no extra charge!

                            His standard stretchers in varying widths are 7" long with 2 sets of metal snaps for adjusting to your scrotum width and his standard balls divider strap is .5" X 4". I had him make my divider 5.25" long, again with 2 snap adjustments, to fit my larger balls and he said "no extra charge"! Great guy! His site also has a variety of other S&M/ B&D stuff and the general cock & ball toys you'll find on other sites, but at better prices.

                            I don't usually endorse a site on these forums, but this guy is special and will go out of his way to please customers. I've had so many inquiries about leather stretchers and where to purchase them, that I thought I'd just let everyone know this guy is genuine and honest! Accepts paypal and credit cards both online, too. Check him out if you're interested.
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