Lets get some facts straight about the Vac Extender..

[JohnnyCash Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JohnnyCash]

Hello guys, lately I've been reading alot about extenders, especially about the vac mod.
I would like to ask some questions:
1. From what I've read in different threads, it seems like the vac mod slows down gains, as if the stretch is lesser. Is this true?
2. It seems like the vac mod doesn't constrict blood flow to the glans. Is the vac mod actually safer than the normal strap/noose?
3. What are the risks with vac mod? Is it possible to cause nerve damage/ED with it?

And finally, any other info about it is more than welcome.

Thanks in advance!

[rhinoguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rhinoguy]

First of all the VacExender modification is not a clinically tested device like the extenders are with nooses and straps. That does not mean it is unsafe (I think it is unsafe), but you are a test subject when you use one. I will say that I have never heard of any damage done by the VacExtender other than blistering which is bad, but not what I would call a serious penis issue as long as it does not get infected.

I did use one and I had continuous problems with blisters. I wanted it to work and tried everything I could find to do so. I read all through MonkeyBar's thread on his product on Thunder' s Place. Nothing worked, I tried it all. Tape, longer sleeves, shorter sleeves, high tension, low tension, different ways of installing the cup, short traction times, etc. I still got blisters. In case you do not know a glans blister takes about 2 weeks to heal and you do no PE at all while that is going on. It is also kind of gross having them also, they stink (literally).

Next, there is not much research showing they work to grow a penis. The VacExtender is similar to the Phallosan device which is backed by one piece of peer-reviewed research showing good results, and I am am not going to say the VacExtender does not work but I am also not going to say it works because there is no science to show it does. It certainly did not work for me.

My theory on the VE is that it puts too much traction on the sleeve which goes to the penis skin which is not what you want to grow. We want the tension on the glans and this is why hanging and extending work fairly well. While the VacExtender does pull on the glans, the organ is not able to take that much suction and it generally gives way at some point. In fact, you cannot use a Vacextender without the sleeve not just because the sleeve seals the cup onto the glans, but because the tension has to be reduced with the sleeve and to the skin on the shaft to alleviate blistering the glans.

Next, some people seem not to have the problems I had with blisters, but from what I read on various forums most of them have at least had occasional blisters. It puts so much pull on the glans, urethra and frenulum the skin peels off if you are not careful. Those tissues are very soft and especially for uncircumcised men they are weak and susceptible to blistering.

I need to see more proof the VacExtender works before I am willing to take another risk with it. There needs to be academic research on it by urology experts and it needs to be peer reviewed research with positive results. I tried the VacExtender and as far as I am concerned it failed. At the very least be warned that unless you are either very lucky in the particular penis skin you have, or you are very good at using the VacExtender which by the way is poorly documented on the AutoExtender website especially on the blister issue, then you will get blisters and I cannot recommend such a device. The Monkeybar fellow who makes them is probably a sincere guy and he works hard to make it a better product, but ti si not a tested or mature product at this time. The noose and strap type extenders are mature products and give proven results in contrast.

[JohnnyCash Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JohnnyCash]

That was a great 1st person review.
Thanks man, repped.

Yet I still lean towards the vac mod, the nooses/straps seem way too risky, I fear of nerve damage from them.

[B1ue Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close B1ue]

I don't believe for a second that the vac mod doesn't constrict blood flow, I've had one of those ebay stretchers that uses the same kind of device and it totally make my penis head all purple and swollen and cold, i'm using the comfort strap and noose since I have an x4 extender now and they are much better from my experience

[joe average Member Find all posts View Profile Close joe average]

I have the vac extender mod for my cheap ebay extender that came with both the noose, and the comfort strap.
I first used my extender with the noose, and found it excruciating after 15 to 20 minutes, this is after a couple of weeks of conditioning. Never the less, I continued to use this way for a couple of months.
Next I tried the comfort strap, tried using a simple wrap under it, but ended up using it without a wrap. I liked the comfort strap well enough, and felt it worked pretty good, and was more comfortable than the noose, though the noose pulled more directly on the glans. I eventually gave up on the comfort strap, because it would slip out of the head piece, and come loose. I have since seen someones mod that puts nails thru the comfort strap after it comes out the back of the head piece, so it cant slip. I used the comfort strap for about 2 months.
I ordered a vac extender mod, and when I started using it wasnt sure if I like the way it pulled, didnt seem to pull as hard. I discovered that if I cut the sleeves in 1/2, the sleeve will only grab the cap, and maybe 1 1/4" below that, and as I am circumcissed, the pull is just about directly on the glans and penis, not the shaft skin, if it does grab the shaft skin, I am careful to pull the loose shaft skin back as I unroll the sleeve over my penis. I have only used my extender with the vac mod for about 1 1/2 months, as my kids came home from college for the summer, and it became impractical to use my extender for 4 hours a day.
I am now using just the cup and shortened sleeve to hang with, the blue sleeves fail after about 7 lbs., and I am now using the red sleeve, and think that will work for a few more pounds.
In terms of effectiveness, I now I gained some with the noose and strap set ups, have not gained as fast since I switched, but I have gained, I think I am past the easy newbie gains, so that could account for the slow down.
As far as blisters, I religiously used the tape until a couple of weeks ago, and never had a blister, but just yesterday I noticed what looks like the beginning of a small blister, so back to using the tape. Something else I have done, is use the cap and sleeve as a better grip while doing manual stretching, and since I do much of that in my hot tub, I fill the cap with water before I put it on, I think this equalizes the pull, and gets rid of any air, decreasing the chance for a blister. I do think that I am lucky in that I dont seem to get blisters easily.
By the way, I do think that the hanging is going to work well, and I can hang up to 1 1/2 hours with the vac cap, using 8 lbs now, and no discomfort or cold glans. Very easy to put on and take off, I can remove the weight and have my dick back in my pants really quick, and no one knows I am wearing a hanging device. Only issue is I dont know at what point the sleeves wont be able to handle the weight.
I hope it helps to have a different perspective based on different experience.

[rhinoguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rhinoguy]

^^^ You are circumsized, right? I am suspicious that uncut men do not have the requisite toughness of skin (mucous membrane) required to use a VacExtender successfully. I always had a thin-skinned glans due to being uncut, and the VE is super-hard on the skin up there. I damn sure tried to use this thing and all I ever got was blisters. If your dick head is exposed 24/7 it builds up toughness which helps to use this device.

[joe average Member Find all posts View Profile Close joe average]

I think you are correct. I was uncut for the first 55 years of my life, and have been cut for the last 11 months, and yeah the difference is like velvet v.s. burlap. And I did just recently get a very small blister, not wearing tape. I will be paying more attention from now on, and I am going to keep filling the cup with water before putting it on, it drives all the air out and fills the space between the glans and the cup.

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

I have Monekeybar's Autoextender. It is an awesome product. I wear it 4-7 hours at a time with great results. From reviews I am seeing, you are either too small for the device, or you guys don;t have a good technique to push all the air out. Once I install it, first, the cup is fairly small. It cover a little less than half my glans. But is a good thing. Once I push as much as I can inside, every bit of air gets out, and it stays sealed like that. The sleeve is small, but thats a good thing in this case because it doesnt let any air get it.

When I first started using it, I had a couple blisters and fluid buildup. But there is a solution for it. The blisters, you can pop em with a needle. It heals in 1-2 days. Your own pee speed up the process. For both the fluid buildup and blisters, the glans get used to it. Start with less time and go gradually increasing. After about one hour, the glans need to recirculate blood. What I do, I massage the half glans outside the cap through the sleeve. Then, kegel to push blood in the glans. Repeat inflating and deflating about 5 times and is good for another hour. No need to uninstall/install the device.

The base of the extender is very small. It acts in the base of my cock as a cock ring, leaving blood trapped inside. That little bit of blood is crucial for a good stretch.

I would never replace this device. It comes with an optional noose but that technology is a piece of shit. The reason, it cannot sustain the traction force needed. Even if you tighten it up as hard as you can, the glans is going to squeeze and slip through anyways.

[funflyer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close funflyer]

I would never replace this device. It comes with an optional noose but that technology is a piece of shit. The reason, it cannot sustain the traction force needed. Even if you tighten it up as hard as you can, the glans is going to squeeze and slip through anyways.

Interesting comment to make after so many users can extend for hours a day with the noose. I myself have done 12 hour days. I can understand your opinion you wouldn't want to switch to the noose for personal comfort preferences but why make such an obviously false statement?

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I have mixed feelings regarding the VacExtender Mod. I am cut and I have been using it for a little over three months with my X4. In the beginning I was wearing it for 4 to 5 hours a day. On one occasion I did develop small blisters. I also developed blisters while wearing the cap and sleeve as an ADS, but on that occasion I did not have a good seal.

Since then (about 1 month ago) I have made sure the air is properly vented and the cap forms a tight seal and I have not had any problems with blisters since. Just to be cautious, I limit my VacExtender use to two 1.5 hour sessions a day, though I occasionally go to two hours. However, in addition to my extender use, I am also using it as an ADS with 26 oz of fishing weights attached and wearing it this way for 7 to 10 hours a day. The only problems I have encountered during the past month is some slight tenderness just under the corona. However, I pump daily for twenty minutes so I am not sure which exercise is causing the tenderness.

During the nine months I was using the X4 with the strap/noose, I believe I gained close to 1/2 inch in EL. During the 3 months of using the VE mod kit, my EL is up under 1/8 inch, but my extended length in the extender is up about 1/2 inch. I say this because I recently had to add a pair of 1/2 inch bars just to maintain tension at the second line on the bars while unscrewing the extension bars the same 1/2 inch.

Unless I can not demonstrate additional growth, I will continue to wear the VacExtender as outlined above. It may take longer than the strap/noose, but the additional comfort outweighs any speed advantage offered by the strap/noose. The secret to the VacExtender is the proper venting of excess air from the cap to create a tight seal.

[JohnnyCash Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JohnnyCash]

Thanks for the comments guys.
I guess the smartest thing to do is getting all 3 heads and choosing the one that fits an individual best.

[rhinoguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rhinoguy]

That's what I would do (and did), but be careful when you throw on the VacExtender or you will pay for it.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

If you get a VacExtender cap, be sure to mark the vent hole with a black permanent marker so you will be able to see it through the sleeve. This way you will know where to roll down the sleeve to vent the cap.

If you have any additional $$$ to spare, invest in the quad support for additional comfort. You may also want to modify it to use a Velcro strap as well.

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

Interesting comment to make after so many users can extend for hours a day with the noose. I myself have done 12 hour days. I can understand your opinion you wouldn't want to switch to the noose for personal comfort preferences but why make such an obviously false statement?

How can it be a false statement if I am basing it on my own experience?? Piece of shit. Period. It might work for you because you don't need the traction force I need. If I put in the noose enough force to keep my glans trapped, I get no stretch at all. Or so little that is not enough to create any exercise. The only thing in my case that pulls everything evenly, is the vacuum mod.

[funflyer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close funflyer]

How can it be a false statement if I am basing it on my own experience?? Piece of shit. Period. It might work for you because you don't need the traction force I need. If I put in the noose enough force to keep my glans trapped, I get no stretch at all. Or so little that is not enough to create any exercise. The only thing in my case that pulls everything evenly, is the vacuum mod.

Even if you tighten it up as hard as you can, the glans is going to squeeze and slip through anyways.

This is what I said was false and I stated why. You may have a problem using the device. I didn't dispute that. You made a blanket statement that is false. Had you said in my experience it doesn't matter how hard I tighten up I slip out. I wouldn't have said it's false. You made a statement that it doesn't work and here is why. I'm sorry you have problems but as I have pointed out many people use the device without this problem. In fact it appears that you would be in a minority from what I have read on 3 different boards.

It might work for you because you don't need the traction force I need.

The only thing in my case that pulls everything evenly, is the vacuum mod.

And the vacuum mod doesn't exert as much force? I don't remember learning that slowly extending leg braces to lengthen a leg won't work if we do it slowly without much pain. Instead it should be done quickly with massive tension to force the bone to grow quickly. Same principal. It doesn't require massive tension to grow something.

Another example would be a guage in an ear. If you slowly increase the guage size of the piercing you can eventually have a hole big enough to put someone's finger or hand thru without much pain. You have to go slow and do it over time but it can be done. You don't have to stretch the hole open till it hurts everyday to get a hole that big. It can be done slowly over time without pain. Same principal with the extender.