Phallosan Forte with TLC belt mod and my wrapping technique

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I am loving the knee strap so far I think it is definitely a lot better than the PF belt with the knee strap I could literally wear the PF without taking any break at all from discomfort which is what I've been looking for all this time. Also, I am LOVING the dynamic tension it's a lot different feel than having a static stretch. Also, the knee strap isn't that bad with it's dynamic tension I found that I can actually get a pretty close accurate tension if I wanted to. When one is sitting down he can actually adjust the tension just depending on how far he spreads his leg so I found out that if I sit down and have my leg spread out a certain amount I will have the same tension I would get if I were standing up the only time the tension will vary is if I am walking but when I am standing up or sitting down the tension is accurate. Even then with walking the tension doesn't change that much at all. I am LOVING IT SO FAR.

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Why not try the tlc tugger straps with the clips and tie it too your knee for the knee strap idea, I like the strap a lot and if I get a phallosan sometime I will probably use this strap to attach it to my knee.

Holy crap!!! I just saw the tlc tugger strap it's just like the PMP expander belt!!! I will definitely buy this strap now I never knew I could find a cheap alternative for the PMP expander belt!!!

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I just bought the tlc strap it's so cheap $7 compared to PMP's $100 expander belt!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited to use this belt!!!!!!! I guess I'll just keep the esl40 knee strap as a backup reserve if I find that I like the tlc strap better thank you so much again pizard for this suggestion! I can already see it tlc belt strap + PF = ultimate comfort heck I've worn the esl40 knee strap + PF for over 24 hours now only taking two 1 hour break besides taking a leak which I don't count as a break because I put it right back on afterwards and I haven't had any comfort issues or any problems at all besides the slight edema buildup so I can only imagine how much comfortable the tlc strap will be which is almost a replica of the PMP expander belt

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awesome DreamOn so glad to hear that, I thought my suggestion fell on deaf ears in this thread but it is good to know it is a effective alternative, this way I know for sure when i get my PF that i can use my Tlc strap.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Such cool ideas here. Will consider purchasing some of these ad-ons in the future. At the moment though I don't really find the phallosan a problem the way it is now, if it chaffes I just switch to the other side.

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Holy acronyms. Is there a link or a full title for these? PMP? TLC?

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PMP = penismaster pro. TLC = TLC tugger (that is the name of it, not sure what the company means by it, perhaps tender love care haha).

Holy acronyms. Is there a link or a full title for these? PMP? TLC?

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awesome DreamOn so glad to hear that, I thought my suggestion fell on deaf ears in this thread but it is good to know it is a effective alternative, this way I know for sure when i get my PF that i can use my Tlc strap.

To be honest, I regret buying the esl40 knee strap after I saw your post and took a look at the tlc strap. Nonetheless, the esl40 knee strap is still very effective and highly recommended and I haven't experienced the tlc strap so I can't really give out my opinion yet on which one is better but just the fact that the tlc strap is almost an exact replica of the expensive PMP expander belt I already know it's going to be the best strap between the two. I wish I saw your post a lot earlier than I did alas it was already too late, but still I can always use the esl40 strap as a backup reserve if I find the tlc strap better between the two. Both are very effective and highly recommended, but for now I won't give out my opinion on which one is truly the best until I receive the strap and get some hours with it. Thank you so much again pizard! I have been desperately trying to look for an alternative for the PMP expander belt and when I was about to give up you suddenly showed up like an angel from the sky and showed me the way.

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Such cool ideas here. Will consider purchasing some of these ad-ons in the future. At the moment though I don't really find the phallosan a problem the way it is now, if it chaffes I just switch to the other side.

The PF comfort belt is still a good belt regardless but what I truly need is a belt that is just as effective and eliminates the reason to switch because of discomfort. When I go to a movie theater and I am wearing the PF at the red zone I want to be able to wear it for the entirety of the movie instead of having to go to the restroom during the middle. One thing I can say about the PF belt though is that you can practically use it for ANYTHING even playing sports that is the best thing about it while the knee straps or over the shoulders, etc. are impractical for such activity. But if you are like me and you want to have the ultimate comfort and ultimate laziness while still gaining then PF belt is only good for being active and doing sports or anything that makes you active, but if you are just going to be sitting, walking, and relaxing all day long then esl40 and the tlc straps are the best alternatives. To be honest the TLC straps might be the best of BOTH worlds and I cannot wait to review this product to prove it to myself that it really is what I think it is. Obviously I have very high expectations for it already and I doubt it will disappoint me.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Cool! I was just looking on both the TLC tugger website and the AutoXleeve site. Damn they are so so much cheaper than phallosan. Although I think phallosan is a superior product, the price difference is incredible if you just design your vacuum extender yourself bit-by-bit. The TLC belt looks great, was looking at it a few months back too. I might purchase it soon, will see how much they want to charge me to ship to Ireland. Yeh I agree, when you mentioned the cinema thing, I was like "yeh, have done that a few times. Especially the new Hobbit movie I had to go twice to the restroom haha". I e-mailed phallosan about sending me a new ring a few weeks ago and they haven't replied to me or sent one yet. There appears to be the onset of mould on the ring and I need a new one before it gets worse. Hope they send me one soon.

The PF comfort belt is still a good belt regardless but what I truly need is a belt that is just as effective and eliminates the reason to switch because of discomfort. When I go to a movie theater and I am wearing the PF at the red zone I want to be able to wear it for the entirety of the movie instead of having to go to the restroom during the middle. One thing I can say about the PF belt though is that you can practically use it for ANYTHING even playing sports that is the best thing about it while the knee straps or over the shoulders, etc. are impractical for such activity. But if you are like me and you want to have the ultimate comfort and ultimate laziness while still gaining then PF belt is only good for being active and doing sports or anything that makes you active, but if you are just going to be sitting, walking, and relaxing all day long then esl40 and the tlc straps are the best alternatives. To be honest the TLC straps might be the best of BOTH worlds and I cannot wait to review this product to prove it to myself that it really is what I think it is. Obviously I have very high expectations for it already and I doubt it will disappoint me.

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The tlc tugger for Foreskin restoration is just great. I really have noticed significant gains as far as getting my pseudo foreskin back. Also now that I have some foreskin back I do like the way it feels during sex it really does make a difference I am a lot more sensitive, cant wait for that full gliding effect someday, I think she also enjoys it more cant wait till the skin is covering the glans completely.
When I get the PF if it ever decides to ship one day I am going to have to strike a balance between using both, I will probably use the PF during sleep and work and tlc between off hours/days and sometimes when I am not in work.

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I don't know how stressful or how much pull the tlc foreskin restoration is, but if it is not too intense you could probably use it on your phallosan off days. Some cut members have said that they have noticed bunched up skin where their circumcision scar is and slight foreskin where there wasn't any before, so maybe the phallosan works as a kind of foreskin restorer too. But you would have to ask cut members about that. Myself personally, I am uncut, but I have noticed slightly more foreskin than before I used the phallosan.

The tlc tugger for Foreskin restoration is just great. I really have noticed significant gains as far as getting my pseudo foreskin back. Also now that I have some foreskin back I do like the way it feels during sex it really does make a difference I am a lot more sensitive, cant wait for that full gliding effect someday, I think she also enjoys it more cant wait till the skin is covering the glans completely.
When I get the PF if it ever decides to ship one day I am going to have to strike a balance between using both, I will probably use the PF during sleep and work and tlc between off hours/days and sometimes when I am not in work.

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Both the LG hanger and PF restores skin BUT it's nowhere as effective as a TLC tugger where it's primary built is foreskin restoration where LG hanger and PF only has it as one of it's secondary bonuses.

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Cool! I was just looking on both the TLC tugger website and the AutoXleeve site. Damn they are so so much cheaper than phallosan. Although I think phallosan is a superior product, the price difference is incredible if you just design your vacuum extender yourself bit-by-bit. The TLC belt looks great, was looking at it a few months back too. I might purchase it soon, will see how much they want to charge me to ship to Ireland. Yeh I agree, when you mentioned the cinema thing, I was like "yeh, have done that a few times. Especially the new Hobbit movie I had to go twice to the restroom haha". I e-mailed phallosan about sending me a new ring a few weeks ago and they haven't replied to me or sent one yet. There appears to be the onset of mould on the ring and I need a new one before it gets worse. Hope they send me one soon.

How often do you clean the comfort ring? I clean mine with wet towel once a month and I've never had any problems. I clean the bell and condom sleeve every other day and the comfort ring once a month and this works totally fine with me. The comfort belt I even put it in the washing machine along with my dirty clothes and so far haven't had any problems.

In my opinion the best vacuum dome type device in the market right now is the Phallosan Forte the mechanism of how it works is pure genius and definitely has the edge over other devices such as the ESL40, VLC, PMP, etc. The only real competition it has is the LG hanger but then again they are in two different worlds so we can't really compare them. But for extending the science behind Phallosan Forte is definitely on the edge over other competitors. Of course we just can't have it all in one device there has to be a flaw which is that darn comfort belt of the PF which is it's main disadvantage for me. Thankfully, there are cheap alternatives that I have discovered that can replace these unfortunate flaws which is I'm very thankful for.

A Phallosan Forte + PMP expander belt in my honest opinion would be the best device for extenders in the market but then again we just can't have it all in one device.

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this thread is filled with helpful stuff. i have a knee strap from autoextender site but i never liked using it, the tension never remained consistent. i cant bleieve i didnt just order the tlc strap instead of the esl40 chest harness system. i just hope i don't get any soreness from this like i used to get using the jeans method.

do u think it should be more effective for length if i stay extended in straight up direction? my phallosan tension bar is weak, as i can get to red tension with just a weight of 2.5-3 pounds when its supposed to be double that.

dreamon and kickinthemebs, what is ur take on using the PF belt traditionally (to the side) without the comfort ring, i just tie the belt to the other thigh, i also use an extra rope with hooks that i got from either the autoextender site includede with the leg strap, or the esl40 site with the chest harness (i cant remember which one lol), so far its been great, i couldnt reach the other thigh without the rope now its perfect, but i'm wondering if it is being less or more effective towards lenght gains? it does make my thigh numb when i take off. maybe the low tension feature of phallosan would work better with just 1 side at a time (traditional way) instead of SU which im hoping to try out soon.

Dreamon, did u get any fatigue at the base after few hours of wearing phallosan with the leg strap? and did u get any fatigue in the backside of the penis while wearing it straight up using the jeans/dress pant technique?